Dog at VWL!!!!

[Beachangel]

As an allergic, asthmatic dog owner & DVC owner, I would not report it. Glad to hear OhioMickey that you didn't run to the desk to report the perpetrator!

 

[Dean]

While I don't want to get into the room occupancy per se, it's amazing to me that there were many members openly touting violation of the rules in that area. I agree, rules are rules and they should be followed by MS, the resorts and the members.

 

[Granny]

Originally posted by BobH
All this commentary over the dog issue - WOW!

I think that any thread that deals with people breaking the DVC rules will bring this kind of response.

We all signed the papers and agreed to the rules. Sometimes, those rules are not convenient or easy to live with every trip, but we abide by the rules because we agreed to do so, and it is the right thing to do.

So when there are reports of rule abusers, people rightly get their backs up over them. Especially when there are people who brag about "beating the system".

ohioMickey....when I first read your thread, I was thinking, "what would I do" if I saw the same thing. Frankly, I probably would have done the same thing as you did....nothing. After all, I first saw this as someone just violating a rule so why get them in trouble. I didn't even think about the allergies and such. I can safely say now that if I see such an infraction in the future, I will promptly report it.

I would look at it as doing a service for my fellow members and other guests.

 

[niks81]

I cannot believe how many responses this thread has gotten! However, I do think it is good to generate conversation on this topic. I don't really agree with breaking the rules either, but I do wish that DVC would incorporate at least one resort or a section of each resort for pets. I have a very small dog, one that requires a great deal of attention and I would love nothing more than to bring her with. However I do not want to violate any rules or offend any members because we all pay our dues here. I just think that having one of the new resorts or incorporating a wing of each resort for pets would be a good idea overall because then people with service dogs could use that resort/section too and those with allergies would not be affected. This gives options for members and eliminates unnecessary rule breaking which will affect someone else (with allergies) in the long run. I think that since we are all going to be in DVC for the next 40 years it would be nice to have the option if we want to bring our pet with. For me, I will probably not vacation every year at the DVC resorts because of this very reason and I won't break the rules to harm anyone else's health. I guess I just think it would be a nice option to have for everyone because we are given a choice of bringing a pet and also, those with health issues won't be affected like they are now--there wouldn't be a reason to break the rules! JMHO....but until this is incorporated my precious dog will be at home!!!

 

[sgtpet]

Flat out they should not!!! It is not allowed. I didn't pay x dollars for them to bend the rules. i have family that is allergic to dogs and cats and no matter how much they clean the rooms the smell of the animals still remains. they have kennels for dogs. they have okw, bwv, hh, vb, and vwl for humans.

 

[ducklite]

I wouldn't have a problem with a section of a DVC resort being set aside for pet owners if the following were adhered to:

First complaint of noise, pet is sent to the kennel. Period, no second chance.

Pet restrained on leash at all times, no matter "how friendly" it is.

Pet NOT in any common areas not specifically designated to "pet area" including grass, lobby, walkways, etc.

Dogs must be muzzled when not in room.

Pet area in most remote section of resort, well away from all other rooms.

Pet walk area set back away from resort, and in an area where other guests will not see, smell or hear that it is there.

Pet owners must clean up after their pet. Fines imposed on those who do not.

Pet owners must purchase points specifically set aside in those pet rooms, and must stay in those rooms when using those points whether pet is with them at the time or not.

Pet rooms are open for all pets, regardless of type, as long as it's not an aggressive/wild animal. So if you are allergic to cats, but have a dog, too bad. Deal with it.

Pet room points will have a higher initial cost as well as higher annual dues. These higher fees will offset higher expenses for planning, construction, cleaning, liability insurance, maintenance, etc.

A credit card guarantee or cash deposit must be given at check-in towards damage or fines associated with rule breaking. No credit card? Cash deposit would be returned in form of a check within three weeks of check out.

All pets must be crated when left in room while owner is not also in room. This will cut down on potential damage and liability.

Owner signs liability waiver at time of check-in.

These points can not be rented. Pets not belonging to DVC members or their guests staying WITH THEM (DVC owner must also be staying in unit) are not allowed.

Pet must be up-to-date on all vaccinations and have a current health certificate from vet (issued not more then ten days before commencing travel). Pets must be free of fleas and other parasites.

Basically, if I don't see it, hear it, smell it, incur liability for it, incur expense for it, and don't lose the better rooms for it (viewwise and such), I don't care that it is there. Otherwise, no way.

Anne

 

[niks81]

I agree, ducklite. I love my dog, but I do not want to see, hear or smell anyone else's pet and I'm sure they'd feel likewise about mine. The bottom line is that these resorts are for humans, not pets. However, I think that if there were pet rooms they should be in the most remote portion of the resort and fines and rules should be strictly enforced. Basically, it would just be a nice option for those that would enjoy bringing their pets along, be it just for the pet's enjoyment or just to avoid the kennels. It would also really help out those individuals with allergies I think--I would have to say it would lessen the number of people that break that rule.

 

[dtheboys]

Plain and simple, Just keep your dog at home or in a kennel.
I don't want my kids walking around a room w/ wet bare feet that a dog just was on!
This is a hotel!
I hope that Disney never has an area in the hotel w/ dogs.
We all know that dogs will bark, poop, smell etc.
I have a dog, so don't get upset with me. I just feel that we need to understand that a hotel is for people not for animals.
The person who had the dog in there room should be billed for a carpet cleaning.
Thanks for listening!

 

[kozmo]

Disney has kennels,NICE kennels i might add,i would love to bring my dog and i have actually experienced illness about leaving her and would bring her and put her in disney kennel ,if i didnt always have a car full And no one would complain .

 

[sgtpet]

I would ask for all of my money back before I paid any dues for an additional upkeep area for pets. Give me a break. Kennel = dogs, DVC = humans.

Love your pets and take them places just not at DVC.

 

[niks81]

sgtpet--This is just a mere suggestion and will probably never go into place...settle down! That is what this board is for....

As far as the dues go, ducklite made the suggestion that the people with pets would have to buy separate points and pay much higher dues...therefore this would never affect you. But again, this was just a thought and by no means should be taken so seriously.

 

[spiceycat]

disney policy at FW where they do allow pets - is if you are not there you pet is in the kennel that is a GOOD rule and much better than leaving the animal in a strange room alone even in a crate.

the wdw kennels already have rules that your pet must have shots and a certificated letter (my is a pamplet) from your vet - with his name and signature, and his phone number. if your pet does not have these (while are you taking your animal anywhere) they are put outside and the kennel people do not come near them - their safety plus the other animals.

 

[DaveH]

I know that service dogs are welcomed all over WDW and at the DVC resorts. I think that is great and it is the right of anyone needing the use of a service animal can enjoy WDW like the rest of us. My question for Disney in general is do they try to use certain rooms for folks that need service animals so that folks with alergies can ask for a room not used by the animals so that both groups ccan have a great time. My understanding of this thread is the thoughtlessness of someone breaking the rules and possibly putting someone else at risk. I would hate to loose my wife because someone snuck an animal into a room. The question I have for anyone who thinks it is ok to sneak an animal into a room would they like to loose a love one in this manner?

 

[BobH]

Linda thank you for the clarification on the use of "service dogs" for those who require them. This is what I suspected the "policy" would be. Hopefully this is a proper end to this lengthy discussion. Pets are inappropriate at DVC. Dogs used for special purposes are permitted (as they should be) and hopefully DVC resorts take the appropriate cleaning precautions for those with allergies. I would suspect that they do.

 

[PamOKW]

Dave -- I don't know for sure, but I would assume that certain handicap rooms are probably designated for the service animals.

 

[ducklite]

I have a friend who uses a service dog due to severe visual impairment. He has stayed in several WDW resorts, and has specifically requested to NOT be in a handicapped room, it's actually harder for him to navigate. He has never been in a handicapped accessible room, and due to asthma has always been in a non-smoking room.

I don't know what they do to clean the room after he leaves. The housekeepers certainly know there is a dog staying in the room, as the food and water bowls as well as the dog's "blankie" are on the floor.

Anne

 

[BobH]

This is the reply I received from Member Services:

"Pets are not allowed at any DVC resorts. If you do have a service animal for a handicapped person, DVC does welcome these animals. All animals must remain on
a leash or harness."

 

[Johnnie Fedora]

I can not believe all these posts!! Personally, unless I saw the dog tearing up the place or keeping me up at night, I would leave it up to security to handle this type of situation. Disney has many eyes.

I don't think dogs are a good idea at DVC, but I might prefer the occasional pet to nosey neighbors checking up on me to see which DVC rules I may be breaking. What's next??, paper in the aluminum recycling bin??, heaven forbid.........Just say NO to the Kravets factor at DVC.

I know allergies can be serious for a few people, but I think the allergy danger is a little exagerated here.

I'll have to check the next time I'm at the danderfilled Animal Kingdom, but from the impression given in this post, I'd expect to see hundreds of allergic people being hauled away on stretchers.

 

[Dean]

Some do have very serious allergies to dogs. I know my daughter has life a threatening asthmatic reaction to cats. Besides someone breaking the rules intentionally is a liar and I'd just as soon not have them at my home away from home anyway. As our recent times have emphasized to us, you can't do just anything you want without considering the consequences to others. And yes, people are watching, now more than ever. The times of just looking the other way are hopefully over. So if you smoke on the balcony of a non smoking room, expect the SWAT team to burst through the door and do their duty. LOL.

 

[jennybobenny]

I've been allergic to dogs and cats my whole life. Unfortunately I also have asthma so an allergic reaction for me is more than a few sniffles, hives and a sneeze or two. Avoiding animals is something you get used to after a while but non-allergic people really have no idea the extra steps one has to take to keep from getting into a bad situation. When I was younger I had to skip sleepovers and birthday parties and even now as an adult I need to find out ahead of time if I'm walking into a home with pets.

For the record, let me clarify - I've looked into non-allergic dogs and poodles. I've had weekly shots. I've tried all sorts of medication. I'd *love* to get a dog. My husband grew up with a family dog. My mother-in-law lives alone and would love to have a dog. Unfortunately I'm allergic to all types of dogs, and nothing can change that.

As for bringing dogs to DVC resorts -- would it bother me to stay next door to a dog? No. Would it bother me to sit next to a dog outside in the fresh air? No. Would it bother me to stay in a room where a dog/cat had been staying? Yes, yes, yes. Depending on how well the room was cleaned, my reaction could range from minimal (needing to use an inhaler to breathe) to major (a trip to the emergency room).

I don't expect other people to make accomodations for my allergies (except in the case of my mother-in-law, assuming she wants us to make regular visits ). But in this case we're talking about others breaking the rules by 'sneaking' pets into a room. It may seem like 'no big deal' at the time but who knows what could happen after the fact. I would have 'ratted' out the family with the dog in a heartbeat.