Does Disney card parents?

[asgur5]

I just am sharing with you what Disney's stated rules are.

Bottom line Disney is responsible for verifying age, and with such an international place no way for them to be able to recognize every countries legal ID.


Dehumanizing? Terrible Treatment?

It is the law in this country to prove you are old enough to purchase alcohol. In many places everyone, even the blue hairs must prove their age. Because they have to card younger people the only fair way to do it is card everyone.

Every time someone doesn't card you they risk their job if that person is compliance officer.

And yet all other western countries have the same laws regarding selling drinks to the underaged and yet use common sense with adults clearly over the age. Because while it might provide the tiniest bit of risk to the company its done so out of respect for the consumer as a human being. And thats far more valuable.

likewise with the foreign id. You assume people are doing the right thing as the default rather then always assuming everyone is trying to lie and cheat. its what respect is.

 

[MinnieMSue]

I’m mid 50’s with some gray hair. I wish someone would card me lol but never am anymore cause I look old.

 

[SkyGuy]

I've heard CMs tell guests that a photo of their passport is sufficient and I always have a copy of mine on my phone (in a secure system) but we've never been asked for ID there since I was in my early 30's.

I’ve seen several non-Americans get turned down for alcohol at Epcot for not having a form of identification other than a drivers license (or no ID on them at all). Way too many to count. I always feel like I should then buy the drink for them and pass it on! It’s obvious they are of age but the CM is just doing their job according to the rules.

 

[Beer Me]

I’m middle aged aged and get carded sometimes. Some businesses require it and some employees aren’t comfortable using their discretion when it can mean getting fired or even facing legal charges and fines if they make a mistake so they card everyone. It makes their job and life easier if you have it ready without making a fuss. I don’t consider it dehumanizing, insulting or any kind of nuisance at all. It takes all of 5 seconds.

Another thing is that I don’t go far from home without an ID. You never know when you might need it including having an accident or medical emergency.

 

[Smugpugmug]

I'm in my mid/late 20s with a baby face so it's a guarantee that I'll be carded. I expect it at this point and it doesn't bother me. When I'm with my parents or older friends, they don't get carded as much as I do or at all. I still think it's important to bring your ID regardless, even if you don't get carded. For some restaurants (not just at WDW), it is policy to card everyone at the table.

I’ve seen several non-Americans get turned down for alcohol at Epcot for not having a form of identification other than a drivers license (or no ID on them at all). Way too many to count. I always feel like I should then buy the drink for them and pass it on! It’s obvious they are of age but the CM is just doing their job according to the rules.

I've heard of that happening too and it happened to my friend from Europe outside of Disney. I went to a restaurant with him and the waiter refused to serve him because he didn't bring his passport.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I can see how its a little harder in the states with a minimum age of 21. But surely only in rare circumstances would it be required over 30.

carding people with greying hair or 9 year olds with them is just demeaning.

I believe grocery stores use "appears to be 40 and under" or at least they did in the past Walmart for example I def. remember seeing the signs although most people around my area due to liquor laws used to purchase at liquor stores rather than the grocery store, I still see people for the most part going to the liquor store.

Oh on the greying hair please don't use that, people in their 20s have that heck I've got a friend who is 5 years younger than me who greyed after having her child. I have some though not many at all strands that are gray. I've know multiple men who went bald in their 20s. People dye their hairs grey. That's not a good indicator TBH though other things typically are.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Another thing is that I don’t go far from home without an ID. You never know when you might need it including having an accident or medical emergency.

I never not have my ID on me no matter where I'm going. I watch On Patrol Live/Live PD and it's astonishing how many people are driving without their license on them, sometimes it's just the passengers but most often the drivers. And my very first thought is why are all these people out without their IDs?

 

[Moliphino]

Im sorry. But international guests are expected to carry pasports around with them all day? Thats insane.

i always leave passports locked in the room safe. Taking them out is way to risky.

My passport lives in my purse. Never been an issue.
And it's not just in the US where you might need to carry it around. When we did an Alhambra tour we had to show our passports at every entry point.

 

[Mango7100]

30 plus year olds getting asked for id? Thats dehumanising.

Why do americans put up with such terrible treatment.

That’s a bit dramatic to call it dehumanizing and in my 20+ years as an American who can legally drink alcohol I don’t think it’s terrible treatment. Of all the situations in the world, being asked to show ID to purchase alcohol (which is the law in this country) at a theme park ranks up there as one of the last things I would classify as dehumanizing. It’s the law, it takes 30 seconds, and the server risks their job if they don’t do it.

 

[Smugpugmug]

My passport lives in my purse. Never been an issue.
And it's not just in the US where you might need to carry it around. When we did an Alhambra tour we had to show our passports at every entry point.

Yup, whenever I went to clubs in Germany I had to show my passport to get in. I was never ID-ed at a restaurant there though. In Japan all foreigners are required by law to carry their passports with them at all times.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I’ve seen several non-Americans get turned down for alcohol at Epcot for not having a form of identification other than a drivers license (or no ID on them at all). Way too many to count. I always feel like I should then buy the drink for them and pass it on! It’s obvious they are of age but the CM is just doing their job according to the rules.

The passport thing I actually get though, technically anyone can be asked for an ID in the U.S.

The passport IS your identification unless otherwise advised when out of the country. We're about to be in Mexico next week. Technically they advise to carry your passport with you at all times as you may be asked at any point in time. It's actually the law in Mexico.

TBH I actually wonder world-wide how people see our DLs. Because of how ours are designed even some people here in the U.S. think they are fake. Back in 2016 when my husband was in MD for work he used his KS DL to get alcohol at Texas Roadhouse IIRC and the bartender bent his DL trying to figure out if it was real. It's not our fault the design of it lol.

 

[HopperFan]

And yet all other western countries have the same laws regarding selling drinks to the underaged and yet use common sense with adults clearly over the age. Because while it might provide the tiniest bit of risk to the company its done so out of respect for the consumer as a human being. And thats far more valuable.

likewise with the foreign id. You assume people are doing the right thing as the default rather then always assuming everyone is trying to lie and cheat. its what respect is.

I think it is respectful to not make a servers job more difficult and I think it is respectful to follow the law of the land I am visiting.

It is quite silly to get offended by being asked for your license to drink before being served.

If I disagree with the law of the land in some other country .... I won't visit them. Travel is mostly optional and drinking alcohol certainly is.

 

[_19disnA]

You can't tell a person's age by looking at them. Some look older/younger then they are. No one should feel outraged/insulted if asked to show ID, the workers are just doing their job. Knowingly serving liquor to someone who is underage can cause big issues regarding a site's liquor license. It is similar to entering a casino where you have to be over 21. Employees at the entrance will ask to see ID's of younger looking individuals. That is part of their job.

 

[loves to dive]

30 plus year olds getting asked for id? Thats dehumanising.

Why do americans put up with such terrible treatment.

And yet all other western countries have the same laws regarding selling drinks to the underaged and yet use common sense with adults clearly over the age. Because while it might provide the tiniest bit of risk to the company its done so out of respect for the consumer as a human being. And thats far more valuable.

likewise with the foreign id. You assume people are doing the right thing as the default rather then always assuming everyone is trying to lie and cheat. its what respect is.

How is it dehumanizing? I looked like I was under 21 well into my 30s. It does not provide a tiny risk to the company. I live in a college town and know of more than 3 businesses that had to shut down for serving alcohol to someone under 21 because the fines were too high. I also know of servers who have been fired. Like it or not, it's the law. It's easy enough to carry a driver's license and doesn't take 30 seconds for a server to look at it. Any time I'm outside the US I carry my DL and my passport .

 

[Mango7100]

How is it dehumanizing? I looked like I was under 21 well into my 30s. It does not provide a tiny risk to the company. I live in a college town and know of more than 3 businesses that had to shut down for serving alcohol to someone under 21 because the fines were too high. I also know of servers who have been fired. Like it or not, it's the law. It's easy enough to carry a driver's license and doesn't take 30 seconds for a server to look at it. Any time I'm outside the US I carry my DL and my passport .

Exactly. Love how the poster proclaimed it’s the tiniest bit of risk to the company, but actually it means a business may shut down or a server gets fired (which I would argue aren’t tiny consequences). Also live in a college town and know of businesses that lost their liquor license over not carding which forced them to shut down. All over showing your ID.

 

[Lewisc]

Yankee Stadium checks ID for everyone, even seniors. Inspectors will send a 20 year old who looks like at least 30. Hair, makeup clothing.

They don't want to risk getting their liquor license suspended for even one game.

Carding everyone makes sense. A person who looks 28, but may be 20, can't starting complaining when a customer old enough to be their grandfather just showed his license.

 

[PinkPixel]

I'm almost 40 and was with my husband and two kids and was carded on the Galactic Starcruiser, I thought it was a bit and was totally thrown for a loop when I had to go all the way back to my cabin to get my ID.

 

[Kae]

And yet all other western countries have the same laws regarding selling drinks to the underaged and yet use common sense with adults clearly over the age. Because while it might provide the tiniest bit of risk to the company its done so out of respect for the consumer as a human being. And thats far more valuable.

likewise with the foreign id. You assume people are doing the right thing as the default rather then always assuming everyone is trying to lie and cheat. its what respect is.

But it's not just the Company on the line it is the Servers license and they personally can be fined. The guideline in my state is anyone under the age of 40 and the server has the right to card anyone.

 

[Micca]

I never not have my ID on me no matter where I'm going.

Same here. You just never know when/where you might need it. I understand wanting to travel light and not schlep a bunch of stuff around the parks, but a DL isn't the thing to omit.

They've started checking IDs at my local grocery store and I think they actually input the birthday in the data into the system when I buy beer. Interestingly it's a non-issue at the liquor store, but it's just a small independent business as opposed to a big corporate retail outlet.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Same here. You just never know when/where you might need it. I understand wanting to travel light and not schlep a bunch of stuff around the parks, but a DL isn't the thing to omit.

They've started checking IDs at my local grocery store and I think they actually input the birthday in the data into the system when I buy beer. Interestingly it's a non-issue at the liquor store, but it's just a small independent business as opposed to a big corporate retail outlet.

It was only a short time but several years back the local liquor store had to card everyone by scanning the barcode on the DLs because they had been caught selling to underage, I doubt intentionally but just that they weren't as nitpicky about checking IDs and obviously some slip through the cracks.

Good to know about the grocery stores near us possibly doing that.