Do you think that I did the right thing?

[eva]

Boy, I am really getting my rear chewed over on the resort board about this! During the week of Thanksgiving my family was swimming at the main pool at OKW. While I was in the sauna a couple were discussing how clever they were to stay at a Holiday Inn Express and use WDW resort facilities. I mentioned it to a CM and they were asked to leave. Did I do the right thing? I was pretty upset to think that all of my hard earned money was being spent to upkeep that pool and they were there just enjoying it for free. What do you think?

 

[Richyams]

I Would have done the same exact thing.

Jey, I even spy on my neighbors looking for people with five in a one bedroom!!!!

I think that people are stealing when they do what you described or what I spy for.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx, pretty sick, huh?

 

[Jaypd]

I cant hold back and may get some slack for this.. But here goes no you did nothing wrong when it came to the pool thing. But I belive someone going to a CM about 5 in a one bedroom is wrong. The people in the pool are not paying guests but the room next to maybe a member who cant afford enough points for a family of 5 to go away for a nice trip and get a 2 bedroom everytime. If they are paying there dues and own points they are doing nothing wrong. By having another in the room is not costing any other member more money. So it is no big deal. Well I went on long enough. Please this is IMHO so please no one take it personal

Smile Mickey Loves Ya!!!

 

[Disnydad]

Yes, you did the right thing. We pay for the upkeep of DVC and these people are stealing from us!

Don

 

[eva]

I feel a bit better. Just to let you know, I do have a lot of the same concerns that you voice on this board. I do not like to think that any of us DVC members are out there breaking the rules but I am sure that it is happening. And the bit about Vero is a concern of mine also. We stayed there in 99 and decided to take the tour to see all the different rooms. They tried to tell us that we could just buy there and use them at WDW like we do our points at OKW. We said, "What about the 11 month window?" They said that really didn't matter. Luckily we knew better. Thanks again! I'm gald that there is someone out there a lot more vocal than myself.

 

[eva]

When I made my second post Rich was the only one who responded. Thanks to everyone for making me feel better. On the resort board someone even called me a tattler.

 

[kem330]

How could anyone on the resort board chew you out for that? Anyone paying to be at resort property or DVC shouldn't put up with that. We make a choice to pay to be on site. Anyone using the facilities and not paying to stay there is a cheater and should be kicked out.I hate to drag 5 in a room into this issue! There could be circumstances such as no 2 BR available, a small child in the party, etc. You can legally have 5 in a BC/YC, BWI, Poly, GF and those rooms are roughly the same size as a studio.

 

[Peggy Sue]

I say thank you and job well done! We all need to be care takers of our home resorts!

Have a wonderful day!

 

[PamOKW]

Absolutely you did the right thing. These people were trespassers at OKW. Not only using the pool is a concern but the idea that people who don't belong are wandering the grounds is a concern. Also, think about how crowded the parking lot gets when we're trying to check-in and how crowded the pool can be. And, they were stupid too if they were bragging about it while still at OKW.

 

[Richyams]

I think they should have bounties. 25 Disney Dollars for each pool intruder, 35 if they have dirty feet, 50 if they are off site guests.

25 Disney Dollars for reporting five in a one bedroom, 30 for five in a studio, 50 for six in a one bedroom, 75 for six in a studio.

Money talks.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx, pretty sick, huh?

 

[going2wdw]

Sorry Rich but I can't help myself. What would the difference be with 5 or 6 in a studio or 1 bedroom? Both are over the limit by the same amount shouldn't the bounty be the same? A rule is a rule. May not do any good to report them anyway from post here we know that Disney takes reservations for those numbers so they probably already know.

You did the right thing Eva. One of the perks we have yet to try is pool hopping and if people not allowed in the pools are there it could diminish that perk for DVC members also. My daughters really want to try out Storm-a-long Bay and I hope they get the chance someday.

Janette

WDW Offsite ? - 1976
WDW Offsite Vistana - 1988
Disneyland - 1998
WDW Vistana / Contemporary - June 2000
Just couldn't wait trip - Feb 2001 OKW
DIS-CON 2001 - BWV

 

[Dean]

You absolutely did the right thing and I'm wondering why anyone that's ethical could be upset with you on this one. What's their angle? Were they DVC members, I suspect not. Do be aware that many timeshares offer members year round access to the facilities, but not DVC.

Dean

 

[DisneyMim]

Yes you did the right thing. I don't like seeing this sort of thing either. Just for info, years ago the same thing was happening at Y&B resort. People were entering at International Gateway, carrying bags, changing in the rest rooms and using the pool. I can remember people talking about this over there and thinking they were so cool to have thought of this great way to use a Disney resort pool. Well, enough people complained and now they have a gate around the pool.

 

[dvcdudes]

I thought the 5 in 1 thing was cleared up in a previous thread. DVC MS say it's ok.

DVCDUDES
Owner BWV Feb 2000

 

[Richyams]

How does every piece of paper with an occupancy written on it, the continueing of new owners to sign a Product Understanding Checklist that has the occupany limits, MS saying that they discorouge over-occupany by not providing bedding, MS saying that it is on a case by case basis, How does all that work out to "Ms says its ok"?

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx, pretty sick, huh?

 

[Fenceman]

I also think you did the right thing. The people on the resort board may be comparing this to a regular hotel or resort because they do not have the same frame of reference as an owner. You have a vested interest in the DVC system and its like they are taking advantage of you.

As far as the DEAD HORSE 5 in a bedroom, I would rather see family (DVC members) bend the rules a little before strangers do something like the above example.

 

[Tigger1]

My family feels strange going pool hopping and we as DVC owners are allowed to pool hop.

You did the right thing by telling the CM. I would have wanted to say something myself. Maybe the resort buses need to take the time to check for resort keys. As it is now anyone could get into the resorts.

As for the 5 in a room, I can not imagine that many dvcers buying and staying in a studio with 5. Does anyone know how much this is actually abused?

I think that renting points to strangers would be
more of a problem than members breaking 5 in a studio or 1 bedroom rule.

Tigger

 

[SAKPEG99OKW]

Eva, you did the right thing. We as DVC members pay to have the right to our pools, rooms and service. These moochers were not even staying on site, what nerve. I could see if they were on site, but even then, if you pay 75.00 a day for all star then you should swim at all star.

PS. My DW and I have stayed at the all star sports and loved it.

Eva, keep up the good work, and do it again if you have the chance.

Scott and peg

 

[Dean]

dvcdudes, the idea that many people overlook the rules does not change them. MS has knowingly let people schedule 5 or even 6 in a studio or 1 BR and they have also denied reservations in these same scenarios. The rules are in writing, the enforcement is spotty. So yes I guess we cleared it up, we just didn't tell all of the guides, MS or the resorts. Look to see more stringent enforcement in the next 3-6 months but there will always be those that will do this on the sly.

Dean

 

[wdwnut]

Eva- fair is fair and you did the correct thing. i'm sure the posters on the resort board haven't thought this all the way through, or they, too, want something for nothing. one of the posts over there is complaining about guests at another disney resort not being able to swim with resort guests from a different hotel. the appropriate action would be to ask the cms at the resort concerned if it would be a problem and abide by that decision. rich's bounty idea is funny. thanks.