Do you think that I did the right thing?

[ripleysmom]

Eva, absolutely you did the right thing. Hopefully these people were embarassed enough to let it deter them in the future.

As for 5 in a room. Piece of paper or not, it seems to be a gray area. I also think that given the amount of lattitude that DVC and CMs have given guests in the way of allowing 5 in a room, if someone went to court to challenge it they could conceivably win.

While we will never have more than 4 in a room (only 4 of us), I really do not have a problem with 5 in a room and wouldn't run to "tattle".

Kimberly-Lucas and Ripley's Mom

 

[waltfan]

Excellent job at the pool. Enough with the # of people in the rooms.

 

[dmadman43]

fine then. On my next reservation, I'm booking a studio plus, bringing 8 people, along with some aerobeds (they are pretty portable. They fit nicely in the overhead bins of a plane). The aerobeds will be on the floor so as not to put undo stress on the resort beds. Think MS will let me do that? If not, I may just tell them I'm only bringing 4 people and will bring 8 anyway and just won't say anything. Anyone have a problem with that?

 

[JackDiznee]

...for watching over the place for us.

If that Holiday Inn has free coffee and pastries in their lobby, I'm sure that the guests that stay there would not appreciate a couple hundred DVCers coming in one morning and helping themselves to the freebies.

OKW 8/94

[This message was edited by JackDiznee on 02-14-01 at 05:39 PM.]

 

[PKK/MJK]

Without a doubt you did exactly the right thing!! I would have done it, too. What nerve those people had. It would be bad enough if they were staying at a Disney hotel, but they were off property. I am sure the Holiday Inn had a perfectly nice pool for swimming . I can't imagine what rationale the people on the Resorts Board are using to condemn your actions. Anyway--ignore them--You were right. Three Cheers for EVA!!!

Phil and Mary Jo

WDW--82,83,85,87,89,93,95,96, 97,98,99,00,01
DVC/OKW

 

[dvcdudes]

I don't remember ever seeing anything that states "occupancy limits". I do see something saying "sleeps" (four for a studio and 1 bedroom). I really don't want to start a new debate. We are a family of 4 and may never put 5 in 1 but we were told by our sales rep that it wouldn't be a problem if our DS's wanted to bring a friend and put 5 in 1 (or studio). She pointed out to me the fact that it states "sleeps 4" and told us we would have to supply a blow up mattress etc. but it is allowed. I'm at work and don't have my book with me to look this up and I never did because it really don't apply to us (4). If it does use the word "limit", I guess that ends that but if all it says is "sleeps", add this to what sales reps are saying and the fact that MS lets you have ressies with 5 and then that ends that again.
I don't want to be a pot stirrer and I know this is off the original subject but I just thought I remebered someone posting that MS stated via email that "5 in 1 is ok". BTW on the member website it states "sleeps" not "limit".
I'm usually very non-confrontational but I would "rat" on someone using the facilities from another outside hotel BUT I for one would be QUITE upset if I had reservations for 5 and was questioned. I'm on vacation when in WDW and have a lot better things to do then to spy on other guests to see how many people they have in their rooms.

DVCDUDES
Owner BWV Feb 2000

 

[dianeschlicht]

This thread is about protecting our interests from non-paying people.

You absolutely did the right thing in telling a cast member and having them removed. We pay dearly to have our own pool. Why should someone who is freeloading have the ability to use our pool and towels. etc. I can't figure out how they got in there in the first place. We have to announce when we are going to use our pool hopping privelidge, so how do these people get in?

Disneydiane

 

[PamOKW]

DVCDudes -- There are places in the offering statement and elsewhere where it describes limits as "maximum occupancy" and other language more direct than "sleeps". This topic has been discussed several times and you can find those discussions here and over on the Debate Board. It appears that on a case by case basis an extra child has been allowed in a unit and new purchasers were told what you were while older purchasers were specifically told they needed a 2-bedroom for their families of 5. However, nothing sent to members indicates the limits have been bumped up one per room. No one here knows for sure how this is handled. It is a DVC decision.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Could you give us a link to the thread on the resort board? I couldn't find it over there. Would like to see what the arguments were.

Disneydiane

 

[POLLY ANN]

What cracks me up is WHY would anyone want to go to the OKW pool when they could sly their way into the BW pool or Storm-a-long Bay?

With all the complaints about how crummy and boring the OKW pool is (I like it that way, BTW), it seems strange that people picked that one to crash. Oh, well, I guess we'll never know what makes some people tick.

Good job on reporting them, eva. You did the right thing.

DVC Member since 1995

 

[RoutemanDan]

Here is the thread. I read it last night and could not believe some of the nasty,mean posts included.Eva,you absoloutly did the right thing.

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[dianeschlicht]

Actually, it was quite entertaining! I still can't figure out how people get in to do this. Maybe someone isn't doing there job. I agree that if you were going to crash a pool, why not go for the best? Maybe it just means it is easier to do at OKW. I haven't even used pool hopping priveldges yet. I never have enough time!

Disneydiane

 

[TnRobin]

Hey guys

Just a reminder, keep your post on topic. This is not about the occupancy issue. It is about alerting Managment to non-resort guest using resort facilities.

Disney Vacation Club Board Co-Moderator
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[Beachangel]

You absolutely did the right thing whether it be DVC or regular hotel. Amenities are for paying guests only. Good for you for having the courage to speak up!

"Think left and think right and think low and think high. Oh, the THINKS you can think up, if only you try." Dr. Seuss

[This message was edited by Beachangel on 02-14-01 at 10:06 AM.]

 

[reneesam]

Eva,
I think you did the right thing. I agree that many of the replies you got were from people who did not understand your messages about ownership and fees that we, as members, do. It's one thing to pay a higher fee per night for a deluxe hotel...it's another to be a deeded owner, pay a huge buy-in, pay huge annual fees, and participate in member meetings. It's too bad the thread is closed...we could have linked them to this one!

P.S. Rich, no DVC members have dirty feet...only "outsiders" do!!!!

 

[PamOKW]

I'm not sure how much of this pool crashing goes on but I suspect it's probably higher than we think. A former co-worker always went around to WDW pools while visiting her family in the area. (She once called my room at CBR to join her and her sister at the pool but I was out at the parks.) In that case, they had to somehow get past the guard with no real reason to be at CBR. I wasn't real happy that they were able to do this, especially during Christmas, but they made a regular practice at all of the WDW hotels.

I agree that OKW is a strange pool to pick but they may have been spending the day. After all, you have the pool, the sauna, the tennis courts and the gym and then you hop a bus to any of the parks. Heck, they may have been brazen enough to walk onto the golf course and hit a few holes, too! Not bad for whatever they were paying to stay at Holiday Inn!

Pool crashing at Vero got out of hand early on. That's why you need your room card to enter the pool area, get towels and even to order food from the snack bar. The lifeguards there also have developed a 6th sense about who doesn't belong and are quick to ask folks to leave.

I wouldn't actually confont anyone yourself at the resorts since you never know what people will do or you may make a mistake. But, I don't see anything wrong with discreetly letting a CM know what you suspect.

 

[downontheBW]

Thanks, eva, for protecting our interests. You probably got so much flack on the Resorts Board because they are not owners and we are. We have more of a vested interest - we know we'll be back next year.ÿ
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Dixie Landings '94, '96
Wilderness Lodge, Yacht Club '98
Off site (never again) '99
BWV '00
HHI '01

Heidi

 

[Figaro30]

Eva, I'd do exactly the same thing. If I ever hear anything like that myself I'll be the first one to go and report them.

Personally I even think that the villas shouldn't be open to the public for rent. It should only be for DVC members. But that's only my opinion. I hear stories of how people left the rooms in horrible condition, etc.

'81 - Cont.
'88 - Disneyland
'89 - Maingate East
'91 - CBR
'94 - CBR
'95 - CBR
'98 - BC
'00 - WL
'01 - OKW

 

[TampaDisneyFreaks]

To quote our favorite Disney Villain, "Two Thumbs WAAAAY UP!" You absolutely did the right thing! Obviously the folks who lambasted you on the resorts board have never stayed at a Disney Resort if they chewed you out. They (CM's) have been a little lax in this lately, but prior to joining the DVC when we stayed on property on cash ressies, we were ALWAYS told that there is no pool hopping allowed on property! That is even for Disney reosrt guests! The reason given was everyone would go to Storm-Along-Bay. The only exceptions were sister resorts (DXL guests could use PO pool, and vice-versa). Pool Hopping (which our guide never told us about and we only heard of it thru this board as a DVC benefit) is a benefit apparently only available to DVC members. It is especially good that you turned them in, since as DVC members, we are not just guests at the resort, but are OWNERS of the resort. Also, the reason I say the CM's have been lazy about this lately is that the last few times (including this past weekend) when we stayed on property using cash ressies instead of points, the CM failed to mention the no pool hopping rule. This was at Coronado and ressies were booked thru Disney Central Reservations, so they didn't have the excuse of assuming we were DVC members and had this privilege. Eva, our hats (with mouse ears of course!) are off to you!

 

[Figaro30]

Also just wanted to let you know about that last thread you were involved in...

Even though this is the DIS board...that doesn't stop people from being extremely nasty
son-of-a-*****'s. I've learned that from experience.

Don't let other people's opinions sway you on what you deep down feel is right! Only you know how you feel about certain things.

'81 - Cont.
'88 - Disneyland
'89 - Maingate East
'91 - CBR
'94 - CBR
'95 - CBR
'98 - BC
'00 - WL
'01 - OKW