Do you think a college professor has the right to do this?

[Goofyluver]

I hate it when grown-ups who should know better feel entitled.

I taught a semester in college. I guess I gave my students too much credit in that I expected that since I was dealing with adults, they would act like adults. That usually means you follow class rules (including attendance requirements) and are mature enough to let the professor know if you need certain accomodations. Attitude AFTER the fact does very little for your cause.

 

[Magix]

I'm 42, work full time and am taking classes at the local community college. Anytime I have a conflict between work (or any other situation) and class, I make sure to email the instructor and inform him/her. Doing that, there have been no negative consequences. My current class starts at 6:30pm and it takes me 30 minutes to drive to campus from work. I get off work at 5:30, plus need time to change my clothes before going (it's a required PE class) and time to walk to class. I made arrangements with my manager to take a short lunch on class days, so I can leave at 5:00 and have time to get everything done and make it to class about 10 minutes early.

If I were going to be consistently late to class and could not avoid the circumstance, I would be darned sure to email the professor (or speak to him before/after class) and make arrangements, so it would not become a problem. Even if I failed to do that, and the instructor tried to kick me out of class, I assure you I'd beg his forgiveness and request to speak with him privately after class regarding the situation. I'd be nothing but apologies and explanation in an effort to protect my spot in the class and my grade. At no time would I even consider arguing with the instructor or creating a scene in the classroom. Not proper student behavior at all, regardless of age!!

 

[Magic Mom]

The legal right? Possibly. What does her syllabus say?

ETA... If I was going to be 10 minutes late to every single class, I would have talked to the professor about it a LONG time ago.

This

 

[Plannin'Shannon]

That's OK, he can just come back as someone else later on.

 

[Magic Mom]

Ah well, when she started class her hours were different. This has been for the last 4 weeks. I have no idea what the syllabus says, and she made no mention of it.

My thoughts are that she is an adult woman, with adult responsibilities, doing all she can to further / improve herself. It isn't like she is an 18 year old kids who is a wiseguy. In her shoes, I do believe I agree with what she said, entirely. Plus, she paid the money, so she's supposed to get taught.

BTW, this is a community college class we are talking about, not Ivy League or anything. To me, it just sounds like a professor that is too full of himself.

So if my 19 YO son slips quietly into class LATE every day then he would deserve to be kicked out, but because your neice is 31, she should get to be late whenever it suits her without clearing with the prof.? Interesting logic.

 

[Magic Mom]

I wonder if this had been you, any of you, whether you would have had the same response. I doubt it, if in the same situation. I will concede that it would have been wise to approach him, but she didn't. But I surely doubt that ALL of the people here who say she was 100% wrong would feel that way had it been you. In fact, as I read the posts of many of you, I can tell you all weren't / are perfect wonderful beings, and I just can't see some of you not doing something similar.

If in the same situation, I would have cleared my tardies with the professor as soon as I knew I would be late. And I would tell my son the same thing. It isn't the prof.'s job to bend around your niece's schedule, and every time she disrupted his class, that's what he had to do. She should make an appointment to see him and apologize for her rude behavior. But somehow I don't think that's going to happen.

 

[crashbb]

Something no one has mentioned (that I could see).

If the prof (at the front of the room - so as far from the back door as possible), could notice her coming in, then everyone noticed her coming in (and was disturbed by her).

 

[padams]

I would have talked with the professor as soon as the job schedule changed. Too late now. I also would not have asked for security if prof asked me to leave. Does she really expect a decent grade in this class now?

 

[momrek06]

Something no one has mentioned (that I could see).

If the prof (at the front of the room - so as far from the back door as possible), could notice her coming in, then everyone noticed her coming in (and was disturbed by her).

Its probably disturbing to the Prof because every class as she opens the door and walks in, everyone turns their attention to her entering and takes their eyes off the Prof who may be in the middle of discussing the topic of the night.

ME, about 6 pages ago!!!

 

[morethananyonex]

Niece should have just told the prof her issues with work, easy peasy problem solved. While it's no fun getting called out in class like that, especially when you have a reason for the behaviour, you will NEVER win standing up to a prof like the niece did, never ever ever.

For the record, for as many good profs as there are there are also some that are a-holes and let the power go to their heads. There's usually not much room for arguments against them though, even if you go through the school. For example, in my 4 years of university I've heard of one prof having to tone down his "humor" because of females getting offended (I thought he was funny ).

Just to clarify, what she did was out of line and she handled it all wrong, but my point is regardless, there's rarely a lot you can do against a prof.

 

[crashbb]

ME, about 6 pages ago!!!

I was taking it out of the realm of "probably" into the realm of "definitely". The fact that the prof. said something as she came in, would prove that she is a disturbance.

Well, it made sense in my head

 

[disneyfan67]

I wonder if this had been you, any of you, whether you would have had the same response. I doubt it, if in the same situation. I will concede that it would have been wise to approach him, but she didn't. But I surely doubt that ALL of the people here who say she was 100% wrong would feel that way had it been you. In fact, as I read the posts of many of you, I can tell you all weren't / are perfect wonderful beings, and I just can't see some of you not doing something similar.

Same old routine you played out when you went under the name Papa Deuce and I see you haven't changed, even though your screen name has. You posted something controversial expecting everyone to agree with you, then give petty responses when everyone calls you out for what is clearly wrong behaviour. Of course you have no intentions of coming back to this thread or admitting you or your niece were wrong. I guess the old saying is true. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[crashbb]

Same old routine you played out when you went under the name Papa Deuce and I see you haven't changed, even though your screen name has. You posted something controversial expecting everyone to agree with you, then give petty responses when everyone calls you out for what is clearly wrong behaviour. Of course you have no intentions of coming back to this thread or admitting you or your niece were wrong. I guess the old saying is true. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I thought the saying was "wrongness runs in families", but your's works too.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Same old routine you played out when you went under the name Papa Deuce and I see you haven't changed, even though your screen name has. You posted something controversial expecting everyone to agree with you, then give petty responses when everyone calls you out for what is clearly wrong behaviour. Of course you have no intentions of coming back to this thread or admitting you or your niece were wrong. I guess the old saying is true. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Haven't seen you in ages, how ya doin'?

Good to see ya!!

 

[disneyfan67]

Haven't seen you in ages, how ya doin'?

Good to see ya!!

I'm doing all right Uncle and it's good to see you too.

 

[Goofyluver]

Same old routine you played out when you went under the name Papa Deuce and I see you haven't changed, even though your screen name has. You posted something controversial expecting everyone to agree with you, then give petty responses when everyone calls you out for what is clearly wrong behaviour. Of course you have no intentions of coming back to this thread or admitting you or your niece were wrong. I guess the old saying is true. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Werd.

Haven't seen you in ages, how ya doin'?

Good to see ya!!

I'm doing all right Uncle and it's good to see you too.

Reunions!

 

[disneyfan67]

Werd.





Reunions!

Gotta love it!

 

[luvmythree]

Just wanted to say that I really luv your screen name, it has a really nice ring to it

And I absolutely ADORE your username as well!!!

 

[Uncle Remus]

Gotta love it!

Glad to hear you're doin' well!

 

[BeefJerky]

Sorry, but unless the student talked to the teacher beforehand, the professor had every right to kick the student out. Calling for the security or the dean was just immature. I would probably cut some slack for the student BUT expect for her to get the notes from other students after class and not to cause a disruption coming in. Seeing as how the professor doesn't know her situation, the teacher has every right to expect students to come in on time.