Do you bring your own bedding?

[missDisneylady]

None of that was very surprising. Nor does it make me want to clean the hotel room when I get there.

I'm not eating off the sink or licking the toilet. I don't bathe in the hotel tub. I also don't eat on the floor.

I'm also one of those people that leaves the "do not disturb" sign on my door the entire time I'm there. At POR housekeeping left us a bag on our with extra towels and soap twice during our stay. That was nice. But we had no need for them to come in and clean our room. It wasn't messy. We also pick up the room before we leave to eliminate some work for housekeeping. I think it's so rude that people just leave the room a disgusting mess.

I get your point. I don't bathe in the tub either but people put I'm assuming most people put their small kids in the tub. I don't think anyone would want to put their kids in a tub that is not being cleaned throughly by housekeeping. Surely, one is not going to put their kids in a dirty tub at home so why would one go hundreds of miles and put them in one.

As with the carpet, no most people don't eat off the floor but once again some kids pick things up and put them in the mouth. This housekeeper admitted to never vacumming and only picking up big crumbs. If nothing else, when you stay at a hotel you expect that you are paying to sleep in a place that has at least been vacummed.

I'm with you on picking up before I leave. I just think it's inconsiderate to leave a mess just because you know someone will be cleaning behind you, at least to me it is.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Another curious question - do you families who spend a lot of time cleaning your room, removing linens, etc, use the pools, hot tubs (I gather not), water parks, etc? Do you have any procedures that you implement there before you enter the area?

 

[MidgeHadley]

I get your point. I don't bathe in the tub either but people put I'm assuming most people put their small kids in the tub. I don't think anyone would want to put their kids in a tub that is not being cleaned throughly by housekeeping. Surely, one is not going to put their kids in a dirty tub at home so why would one go hundreds of miles and put them in one.

As with the carpet, no most people don't eat off the floor but once again some kids pick things up and put them in the mouth. This housekeeper admitted to never vacumming and only picking up big crumbs. If nothing else, when you stay at a hotel you expect that you are paying to sleep in a place that has at least been vacummed.

I'm with you on picking up before I leave. I just think it's inconsiderate to leave a mess just because you know someone will be cleaning behind you, at least to me it is.

Well, I don't have kids so that's not an issue with me at this point. But when I do, I don't think I'll be cleaning out our tub at home between each washing. Just saying.

And if a kid eats food that dropped on the hotel floor, big deal? They'll be fine.

And I don't think that maid said she NEVER vacuumed the rooms. She just said sometimes she didn't.

 

[missDisneylady]

Well, I don't have kids so that's not an issue with me at this point. But when I do, I don't think I'll be cleaning out our tub at home between each washing. Just saying.

And if a kid eats food that dropped on the hotel floor, big deal? They'll be fine.

And I don't think that maid said she NEVER vacuumed the rooms. She just said sometimes she didn't.

Different strokes for different folks.I think it mainly boils down to different cultures and even races. Not to mention upbringing, "Cleanliness is next to Godliness" and that's how I was raised.

 

[kaytieeldr]

And not everyone is fully clothed when they sit on the chair or the couch in a hotel room either. Think about THAT for a moment!

I don't want to know how you know that!

You can't fool us - we KNOW you want to know!

I think it's so rude that people just leave the room a disgusting mess.

Is a neat mess okay, if I tip well?

I'm not as considerate as you - every other day, when possible, works for me. And yes, I've found the "bag o' stuff" hanging on my door handle, too, when I've been napping with the Do Not Disturb sign up when housekeeping gets to my room. Works for me! Plus, if you stay at DVC using points, you only get trash & towel service on your fourth day, and a full cleaning on your eighth - nothing in-between, unless you pay for it.

This housekeeper admitted

Respectfully, when every housekeeper in every hotel is interviewed (or filmed) as evidence that she or he does not actually clean the rooms, or that they 'clean' them in a disgusting manner, fine. Until then, I feel it is a very very small minority - people who should not be in that field, and who likely would display the same work ethic no matter what they do ("so what?" not being the appropriate answer, given that this person and others like her could easily be working as cooks, food servers, health care workers with direct patient contact...)

 

[kaytieeldr]

Different strokes for differnent folks.I think it mainly boils down to different cultures and even races. Not to mention upbringing,

That's bordering on offensive, and we KNOW you didn't mean it to sound the way it does.

 

[bavaria]

That's bordering on offensive, and we KNOW you didn't mean it to sound the way it does.

I didn't bother to reply to that one in light of how quickly the thread about 'Americans having exclusive rights to cleanliness' went downhill.... Just another thread about us dirty foreigners!

 

[MidgeHadley]

Different strokes for different folks.I think it mainly boils down to different cultures and even races. Not to mention upbringing, "Cleanliness is next to Godliness" and that's how I was raised.

Well, not me, thankfully. I was raised to be clean (as in, shower/bathe, clean my house, wash my clothes, wash my hands) but not that I need to be uber-clean and worry about getting dirty. (Anyone ever watch Jon and Kate Plus 8? I feel bad that those kids are rarely allowed to get dirty. They worry about messing their clothes up way too much. It makes me sad.)

 

[ms.yt]

Different strokes for different folks.I think it mainly boils down to different cultures and even races. Not to mention upbringing, "Cleanliness is next to Godliness" and that's how I was raised.

Yep, us'uns here in Arkansaw only warsh our young 'uns once a month in the hog trough. We run it under the pump first, though, so it gets mighty clean!

 

[mechurchlady]

I have health issues like lowered immune system after getting a bit of wheat in my food. I have a bad back, joint problems, celiac, SID, neurovariations, vision limtitations, and allergies to name a few. If I get sick with a cold or flu then I will be sick for a month. I care for my mother also but you know what?

I am on vacation for fun and relaxation. I have never gotten sick except once at a motel and that was in the 1960's in Fresno in November when we stayed in a drafty and run down motel. I have stayed in Studio 6 and Motel 6 as well as 4 star hotels like the Marriott Rivercenter. I have never brought anything on any trip like bedding, pillow, etc. It is a risk I take but I rather not worry about such stuff.

For those of you creepy people who foot flush please remember that not everyone is ballerinas who can dance on tip toe while flushing. I am 5' 4 and almost 300 pounds. I have scoliosis and a bad disc and bad knees so for me that handle that your dirty filthy digusting shoe soles touched then are touched by my hands. I am sorry but using one's shoe is wrong especially when not all of us can foot flush. How about we make a deal. You foot flush for me, will you do that for me? Try living in pain daily and try staying healthy despite lowered immune system then try to deal with creeps who foot flush. It is wrong.

 

[bavaria]

Different strokes for different folks.I think it mainly boils down to different cultures and even races. Not to mention upbringing, "Cleanliness is next to Godliness" and that's how I was raised.

I can't bite my tongue any more. I have tried to be respectful throughout this thread and understand that people have different fears and experiences and motivators and education and knowledge levels which may colour their actions.

However this comment is not only disrespectful, it is frankly something I don't want to say here. I have travelled the world, visiting countries where people were not as fortunate to have all the luxuries you have in America and we have in Germany. Yet they did the best that they could with the little they had. Often those people who had the least were in fact the most generous and shared what little they had with those of us who have so much.

It has nothing to do with race. And what you may consider 'clean' someone else may find distasteful. Much of the rest of the world finds our western toilets unclean and uses squat toilets instead, for instance. I spent time in the Gulf states after Hurricane Katrina and I can assure you that people did the very best they could to get clean and stay clean. That was not easy but they tried with the little they had. The same holds true for people in remote parts of China and India and other places I have been.

We are all here blessed by an accident of fortune to live where we do. To look down on others and classify them as unclean based on their background is not a reflection on those who have so little, but on those who are doing the judging.

I really cannot say what I truly feel at the moment, but I also am not as charitable as kaytieeldr and cannot just let this comment pass by without voicing at least a small bit of what I think.

 

[WeLoveLilo05]

We ask for the first seating if we are at a buffet. And using the fork supplied on your table setting doesnt cross contaminate anything. Are you assuming I would return for seconds with a dirty fork. Thats not how we roll. We dont re-use plates either. Do you set your used plate down on the buffet to refill?

We dont want you to have our cooties, (((hug)))

I don't think that "cooties" are the issue here. I am not here to "make fun" of anyone's germaphobia because heck, we all are a little skived out by something right? But rather to inform you of the harm that may be done by doing that.

Taking your clean fork or spoon and dishing yourself out a piece of chicken that may be covered in peanuts and honey and THEN going over and using THAT SAME FORK and dishing yourself out some french fries can put my child at risk. You have touched french fries with a fork that has peanuts on it and now if my child goes to eat those french fries she could go into anaphalactic shock.

That is all I am saying, just be more cautious to others life threatening allergies. You won't die from using a tong that someone else has touched but my child could from your clean fork that has been dipped from an unsafe dish to a safe dish.

And this is just for peanuts, so many people are allergic to things that I enjoy everyday eggs, milk, wheat, soy, etc.

I am not saying this to be rude, just to inform you as food allergies are seen more in our society.

 

[kaffinito]

Different strokes for different folks.I think it mainly boils down to different cultures and even races. Not to mention upbringing, "Cleanliness is next to Godliness" and that's how I was raised.

I certainly hope you are joking. I would hate to think that you are really serious with this remark. Your other posts are well written and you come across as being fairly well educated, but this post might lead people here to think otherwise.

I can't bite my tongue any more. I have tried to be respectful throughout this thread and understand that people have different fears and experiences and motivators and education and knowledge levels which may colour their actions.

However this comment is not only disrespectful, it is frankly something I don't want to say here. I have travelled the world, visiting countries where people were not as fortunate to have all the luxuries you have in America and we have in Germany. Yet they did the best that they could with the little they had. Often those people who had the least were in fact the most generous and shared what little they had with those of us who have so much.

It has nothing to do with race. And what you may consider 'clean' someone else may find distasteful. Much of the rest of the world finds our western toilets unclean and uses squat toilets instead, for instance. I spent time in the Gulf states after Hurricane Katrina and I can assure you that people did the very best they could to get clean and stay clean. That was not easy but they tried with the little they had. The same holds true for people in remote parts of China and India and other places I have been.

We are all here blessed by an accident of fortune to live where we do. To look down on others and classify them as unclean based on their background is not a reflection on those who have so little, but on those who are doing the judging.

I really cannot say what I truly feel at the moment, but I also am not as charitable as kaytieeldr and cannot just let this comment pass by without voicing at least a small bit of what I think.

I am very glad that you did speak up about that comment. They say "ignorance is bliss," but I find it truly appalling. It makes me downright cranky too!

 

[RxforDisney]

My son had surgery last year, and I was APPALLED that the hospital had so much hand sanitizer laying around--yet all the soap dispensers were constantly empty!

Sanitizer has its place, but it doesn't replace soap. You'd think hospital staff would know that.

There is actually good evidence the the alcohol based hand sanitizers kill a large majority of the microorganisms that are prevalent in the hospital setting. So much so, that the CDC recommends its use in the absence of visible soil on hands (and a few other circumstances). The advantage to this for hospitals is improved compliance because of the convenience. No water is required, so these can be placed at patient's bedside or in the hallway. There are infection control issues also with hospital staff using the patient's sink in their room. But you are right, it doesn't completely replace soap. Here are the first two recommendations on this topic from the CDC.

"A. When hands are visibly dirty or contaminated with
proteinaceous material or are visibly soiled with blood
or other body fluids, wash hands with either a nonantimicrobial
soap and water or an antimicrobial soap
and water (IA) (66).
B. If hands are not visibly soiled, use an alcohol-based
hand rub for routinely decontaminating hands in
all other clinical situations described in items 1C–J
(IA) (74,93,166,169,283,294,312,398). Alternatively,
wash hands with an antimicrobial soap and
water in all clinical situations described in items
1C–J (IB)"

Here is the link to the full recommendations: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/rr/rr5116.pdf

 

[ironz]

I travel alot for work, about 85 nights a year. I never take any of these precautions and I am never sick. There are more germs out there in the parks or wherever you are, you can't avoid it.

Same here..travelling about 180 days a year for work, and add at least another 4 weeks of vacation travel with at least 2 trips to WDW a year on top of that. I do not go to those extremes, and had a 'scratchy throat' for about a day and a half last year. That's it.

I wash my hands frequently at WDW and other than that, just act normal. Your bodies have an immune system for a reason. Use it!

 

[missDisneylady]

I can't bite my tongue any more. I have tried to be respectful throughout this thread and understand that people have different fears and experiences and motivators and education and knowledge levels which may colour their actions.

However this comment is not only disrespectful, it is frankly something I don't want to say here. I have travelled the world, visiting countries where people were not as fortunate to have all the luxuries you have in America and we have in Germany. Yet they did the best that they could with the little they had. Often those people who had the least were in fact the most generous and shared what little they had with those of us who have so much.

It has nothing to do with race. And what you may consider 'clean' someone else may find distasteful. Much of the rest of the world finds our western toilets unclean and uses squat toilets instead, for instance. I spent time in the Gulf states after Hurricane Katrina and I can assure you that people did the very best they could to get clean and stay clean. That was not easy but they tried with the little they had. The same holds true for people in remote parts of China and India and other places I have been.

We are all here blessed by an accident of fortune to live where we do. To look down on others and classify them as unclean based on their background is not a reflection on those who have so little, but on those who are doing the judging.

I really cannot say what I truly feel at the moment, but I also am not as charitable as kaytieeldr and cannot just let this comment pass by without voicing at least a small bit of what I think.

Let me take a deep breath before I start. I'm trying not to get all up in arms.

First of all, please don't hold your tongue...you can defintely say what you feel because I have no problem doing the same.

I don't need you to educate me on the wretched conditions that some people are forced to live in. I keep myself pretty well informed and this is actually very important to me, and I haven't even traveled the world. This is a question and my response from another site I belong to:
Who is your personal hero?

"Citzens of third world countries.They live in horrid, deplorable conditions yet are incredibly humble. It's admirable and heartbreaking.Reminds me that no matter how bad it seems it could be worse, and that we are very blessed in this country."

My friends could give a flying @&*# about those people but there are times in the shower that I feel both guilty and grateful at the same time for having clean, indoor plumbing when there are people living with only rivers of sewage running through their towns. So a lesson on gratitude is unnecessary from you as well.

Furthermore, stating that different cultures and different races factor in defintely does not mean that I'm saying there are groups or types of people that are less then anyone else. It means exactly what it says, some people are brought up to detest things that others would find okay. What's viewed as no big deal by group A may put group B in an uproar because they were raised to think differently.

I don't see how "cleanliness is next to godliness" is offensive, disrespectful, or degrading to anyone. It's just a phrase that I've heard a gazillion times and I'm sure lots of others have. I don't think anyone even means it in the alleged origin of the phrase. I just have always known it be like any other adage destined to encourage or discourage certain practices or behaviors. So maybe you all did what I was accused of doing in my earlier posts---------MISINTERPRETED IT!!

What really gets under my skin is I admitted I may have misinterpreted some comments and apologized for any offensive comments I may have submitted. Yet I still see people making little snide remarks. But I just let it go because it's just like the cop that uses his badge to bully people--when you have something to hide behind you have balls of steel, strip it away and you're a whimpering punk. I guess some of you are very grateful for the PC and the internet ....gave you guts you probably never possessed and lack in your everyday life.

Oh, and bavaria even though I'm responding mainly to your comment; the last comment is not directed to you because something tells me that you may be just as straight-forward as you are here in all areas of your life. Even though I was somewhat peeved by and dispute your comment;I greatly respect that.

 

[MidgeHadley]

I have health issues like lowered immune system after getting a bit of wheat in my food. I have a bad back, joint problems, celiac, SID, neurovariations, vision limtitations, and allergies to name a few. If I get sick with a cold or flu then I will be sick for a month. I care for my mother also but you know what?

I am on vacation for fun and relaxation. I have never gotten sick except once at a motel and that was in the 1960's in Fresno in November when we stayed in a drafty and run down motel. I have stayed in Studio 6 and Motel 6 as well as 4 star hotels like the Marriott Rivercenter. I have never brought anything on any trip like bedding, pillow, etc. It is a risk I take but I rather not worry about such stuff.

For those of you creepy people who foot flush please remember that not everyone is ballerinas who can dance on tip toe while flushing. I am 5' 4 and almost 300 pounds. I have scoliosis and a bad disc and bad knees so for me that handle that your dirty filthy digusting shoe soles touched then are touched by my hands. I am sorry but using one's shoe is wrong especially when not all of us can foot flush. How about we make a deal. You foot flush for me, will you do that for me? Try living in pain daily and try staying healthy despite lowered immune system then try to deal with creeps who foot flush. It is wrong.

Well, I'm just glad I'm not offended easily since I'm a "creepy" foot flusher. I am sorry that you aren't able to foot flush. Some day, I may not be able to either. That's life. I'll live. I'm sure that some people's hands are far dirtier than some shoes out there too. But I'd rather not think about that.

 

[missDisneylady]

people who should not be in that field, and who likely would display the same work ethic no matter what they do ("so what?" not being the appropriate answer, given that this person and others like her could easily be working as cooks, food servers, health care workers with direct patient contact...)

I look at people in those fields the same way. I don't put anything past anyone....point blank.

 

[MidgeHadley]

Let me take a deep breath before I start. I'm trying not to get all up in arms.

First of all, please don't hold your tongue...you can defintely say what you feel because I have no problem doing the same.

I don't need you to educate me on the wretched conditions that some people are forced to live in. I keep myself pretty well informed and this is actually very important to me, and I haven't even traveled the world. This is a question and my response from another site I belong to:
Who is your personal hero?

"Citzens of third world countries.They live in horrid, deplorable conditions yet are incredibly humble. It's admirable and heartbreaking.Reminds me that no matter how bad it seems it could be worse, and that we are very blessed in this country."

My friends could give a flying @&*# about those people but there are times in the shower that I feel both guilty and grateful at the same time for having clean, indoor plumbing when there are people living with only rivers of sewage running through their towns. So a lesson on gratitude is unnecessary from you as well.

Furthermore, stating that different cultures and different races factor in defintely does not mean that I'm saying there are groups or types of people that are less then anyone else. It means exactly what it says, some people are brought up to detest things that others would find okay. What's viewed as no big deal by group A may put group B in an uproar because they were raised to think differently.

I don't see how "cleanliness is next to godliness" is offensive, disrespectful, or degrading to anyone. It's just a phrase that I've heard a gazillion times and I'm sure lots of others have. I don't think anyone even means it in the alleged origin of the phrase. I just have always known it be like any other adage destined to encourage or discourage certain practices or behaviors. So maybe you all did what I was accused of doing in my earlier posts---------MISINTERPRETED IT!!

What really gets under my skin is I admitted I may have misinterpreted some comments and apologized for any offensive comments I may have submitted. Yet I still see people making little snide remarks. But I just let it go because it's just like the cop that uses his badge to bully people--when you have something to hide behind you have balls of steel, strip it away and you're a whimpering punk. I guess some of you are very grateful for the PC and the internet ....gave you guts you probably never possessed and lack in your everyday life.
Oh, and bavaria even though I'm responding mainly to your comment; the last comment is not directed to you because something tells me that you may be just as straight-forward as you are here in all areas of your life. Even though I was somewhat peeved by and dispute your comment;I greatly respect that.

I choose not to comment on most of that because I don't really see the point in it. But I will comment on one quick thing - you don't know anyone here in real life (at least I don't think you do) so I don't really think you can comment on their real-life personalities. I'm sure there are plenty of people that will say the same things in person that they'd say on a message board. I know I would (and have.)

 

[missDisneylady]

I choose not to comment on most of that because I don't really see the point in it. But I will comment on one quick thing - you don't know anyone here in real life (at least I don't think you do) so I don't really think you can comment on their real-life personalities. I'm sure there are plenty of people that will say the same things in person that they'd say on a message board. I know I would (and have.)

You are so right.....I don't know any of these people. I can have hateful tongue and quick to say things without thinking. I thought about that comment and came back to delete it from my post. Lo and behold, that quick you had put in your 50 cents. And I'm glad to hear that you don't have a problem saying what you feel in person. Maybe we should arrange to be in Disney at the same time so you can really give me a piece of your mind.