Do People Really.......???

[mrzrich]

How do you manage the airports without a stroller?

Steve

We drive...live 90 minutes away. We don't own a stroller anymore as our kids are too big for regular ones, but they share a double at WDW. I'd hate to lug something big enough to hold my two on the bus.

I guess different things work for different people. Why can't we just agree on that point.

 

[keypooh90]

*Order a double cheeseburger & ask for an extra bun?
Just Curious......

We do this alot. It saves alot of money, and we just cannot eat that much food as most disney portions are. There is nothing wrong with this.

Carrielee

 

[chobie]

Wow, people must be running out of things to get self-righteous about if buying an extra bun and splitting up a hamburger meal now constitutes, deception fraud and larceny.

As for buying a used refillabe mug, the moral issue aside, how is that anymore disgusting then drinking out of a glass in a restaurant? Do you think they throw the glasses out after each customer.

 

[MyZoeJane]

Whether they directly affect me or indirectly affect me, it really doesn't matter, since it shouldn't even be an issue! Pool-hoppers have no more right to be at "my pool" than someone staying on International Drive. If I went to their hotel, I'd be denied entry to their pool. Just because someone has a room on property, they do not get "full access" to everything. I've stayed at the concierge level of the WL, but I wouldn't go up there for freebies if I wasn't entitled. People PAY for the entitlements, and when you take them without entitlement, it's stealing.

FWIW, philosophically it bothers me. In reality, I don't care what other people do, and I doubt I'd call the 'mouse police" if I found a pool-hopper because it is indirect. But I have been known to "accidentally elbow" (box out, in hoops terms ) people that we're trying to cut the lines and "sneeze" on people who blow smoke in my face ("I can't help it, I am allergic")

steve

Buying my new Poly mug in August and only swimming at the Poly.

My sentiments exactly!

Santonucci, you cannot get blood from a stone and you cannot "beat" a logical statement into the head of a person who is obviously intellectually unable to wrap their brain around it.

Hey, perhaps you and I could meet up so I can buy your used Poly Mug from you when you're done with it?

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Oh boy... what a fun thread to read! From a logical point of view, it is obviously perfectly OK with Disney if you split your double cheeseburger. If it were not they would not be selling the extra buns. Am I missing something here? We actually have not done this specific thing, but I think it is a pretty good idea and will look into it on future trips. For many of our meals at WDW we buy ala carte items and share them. Is it wrong for DW and I to share a serving of cantelope? Or DW and DS to split a Coke? I truly am confused aftrer reading the last few pages of the thread.

Confession time: I am a reformed mug-sharer I hope this doesn't make anyone think too much less of me. Before I became a DISer, our family (me, DW, DD and DS) would buy two mugs and share them between the four of us. Of course this was when the kids were preschoolers and probably didn't drink three sips of soda at a meal. I kinda got embarrassed about that after reading many, many threads on the topic here. FWIW, we haven't even bought a mug at all on our last few visits. We tend to dine more in the parks and not so much at resorts.

 

[marlynnp]

Disney sells the bun! No one is cheating them of anything.

And as far as "why don't you just cut it in half" goes, a lot of people, especially children, can't open their mouth wide enough to eat a dbl without making a mess.

 

[tinkerbell1967]

OK I'm sure I'm going to get flamed for this but...

Does anyone else think that if you are so strapped for money that you resort ot some of these tactics, you really should be putting your money somewhere (ie, bills) other than Disney.

I know, I know, I can hear it... "Don't tell me how to spend MY money"

JMHO

I would have to say I have thought the same thing and agree with you!

 

[kimberh]

We have been going to Disney since 1978 and I have watched their prices soar. They use to let you into Magic Kingdom for $6.50 and if you wanted to ride then you bought a book of tickets with the most expensive costing $.90. I don't think we have made going to Disney a Mid to upper class vacation, someone else did. The cheeseburger, I'm only sorry I haven't ever thought about it. I think it's smart. I have a issue with the pool hopping. The AKL was so crowded the last time I was there I couldn't even get a rocker around the fire and everyone in the rockers for the 1 1/2 hrs that I kept checking were NOT resort guests. If you want to enjoy the amenities of the resort then pay the price for the room. I have stayed value and moderate, I prefer Deluxe but we do what the budget allows. After reading this, I feel that Disney needs to police the pool areas. When Disney sends the comment cards fill it out about the pool hopping. Maybe something will get done. To those that feel they aren't doing any harm in breaking the rules - your children are watching so don't be surprised when they do something in their teenage years and bring your rule breaking up to you. It will always come back to bite you. Use some WISDOM in your decision making. I have raised 4 teenagers and you will need all the help you can get.

 

[SpectroMagic*o*]

My sentiments exactly!

Santonucci, you cannot get blood from a stone and you cannot "beat" a logical statement into the head of a person who is obviously intellectually unable to wrap their brain around it.

Hey, perhaps you and I could meet up so I can buy your used Poly Mug from you when you're done with it?

Oh Dear God , do you really have to go to the point of insulting just because someone doesnt agree with you ? I think soooome people ( ) need to get off their high horse and lighten up (and pardon me if my opinion makes me "intellectually deprived" )...Oh, Zippa D Dooh Da, I think nothing less of you and dont even worry about it b/c someone is bound to come on here and disagree with you just for the sake of arguing but you're not doing anything wrong...sharing is an age old tradition, I think sharing is an excellent idea, same goes for the cheeseburger issue (I dont know about the whole extra bun thing) but splitting meals that are often too huge for people to eat is absolutly normal, there's no need to waste food.

 

[SpectroMagic*o*]

We have been going to Disney since 1978 and I have watched their prices soar. They use to let you into Magic Kingdom for $6.50 and if you wanted to ride then you bought a book of tickets with the most expensive costing $.90. I don't think we have made going to Disney a Mid to upper class vacation, someone else did. The cheeseburger, I'm only sorry I haven't ever thought about it. I think it's smart. I have a issue with the pool hopping. The AKL was so crowded the last time I was there I couldn't even get a rocker around the fire and everyone in the rockers for the 1 1/2 hrs that I kept checking were NOT resort guests. If you want to enjoy the amenities of the resort then pay the price for the room. I have stayed value and moderate, I prefer Deluxe but we do what the budget allows. After reading this, I feel that Disney needs to police the pool areas. When Disney sends the comment cards fill it out about the pool hopping. Maybe something will get done. To those that feel they aren't doing any harm in breaking the rules - your children are watching so don't be surprised when they do something in their teenage years and bring your rule breaking up to you. It will always come back to bite you. Use some WISDOM in your decision making. I have raised 4 teenagers and you will need all the help you can get.

I dont disagree with you on the price issue. However, with the pool hopping issue, the problem I have with your statement is that you're assuming your pool was crowded b/c of alleged "hoppers"...well, how do you know it wasnt crowded by the guests staying at the resort, how are you so sure that these were "hoppers"...did you check their resort I.D.? Also, is there some sort of rule book that everyone reads before going? B/c, I personally have never pool hopped but I would never think anything wrong about it cuz I've NEVER EVER in the past 26 years that I've been going to WDW seen this rule ANYWHERE! Where has everyone else seen this rule? I'm not doubting it, I'm just saying in all honesty if I did pool hop I really wouldnt know that this was wrong, so someone tell me where you all have seen this rule...

 

[KimberlyC]

I am shocked an appalled by this entire discussion about double hamburgers!
Didn't anyone ever consider how such a discussion would make Mr. Footlong Hotdog feel?
12 pages have been dedicated to the sharing of double hamburgers and yet there hasn't been one mention of Mr. Footlong Hotdog. He is special too AND he comes with a really big bun to share. Neverthless he has been completely ignored which IMHO is totally shamful!

In light of the forementioned blatant inequity I will make Mr. Footlong Hotdog this promise:

Dear Mr. Footlong Hotdog,
While I don't dig on swine, if ever I do, I hereby promise that I will share you!
Sincerely,
KimberlyC


I think I might be an insomniac who needs to find something more productive to do with my time

 

[Drake]

I became aware of Disney's 'No Pool Hopping' rule years ago. It didn't upset me. It made sense. We stayed at Fort Wilderness....plain pools....fine. I never even thought of pool hopping. My children never thought of it. The rules are the rules. If we wanted to go to pools at other resorts, we would stay at that resort next time we visited WDW.

Another poster was right on the nose when they mentioned the example parents are to their children. To those who think they are exceptions to the rules....wait until you set certain rules for your children.....and they, (who have seen you break rules when you feel like it) decide they don't have to abide by your rules. I'm sure their reason for breaking your rule is as valid to them as your excuse for breaking rules when you feel like it.

 

[Snow_White]

I am floored that some people on the DIS think that they are better than people who go to WDW on a budget. If you want to take your family to WDW, more power to you!! Do it any way you can!! I personally think that family vacations are more important than bills (as long as you're not going to get the electric turned off as a result of your trip). And the other thing is, just b/c someone is trying to save a few bucks doesn't mean that they're in the poor house I might have money, but I'm smart enough NOT to waste it when I don't have to. The funny thing is, the people who scream the loudest are usually the people with the biggest debt and lowest income (the anonymity of the Net makes it oh so easy to lie). You know, the whole he doth protest too much thing. A lot of the wealthy people that I know (family and friends of various ages) are budget-conscious people (I don't know if I'd go so far as to say frugal) and most of them would have no problem with sharing entrees (as long as you tip properly) or sharing a double cheeseburger.

The bottom line is that there is NO REASON to be on a high horse just because you are staying at a deluxe resort, don't split meals, etc. I could stay at the GF if I wanted to every trip, but do I? God no. I personally think it's a collosal waste of my money. I CHOOSE to stay at ....get ready for it.... ALL STAR MUSIC!! Why? Because my husband and I much prefer their food court to those of nearly every other resort on property. We've stayed at nearly every resort on property at least once and we just prefer All Star Music to the others. Just b/c someone is staying at a deluxe resort doesn't mean they're wealthy (a quick look at their watch might give you a clue though ) and just b/c someone is staying at a value resort doesn't mean that they're "poor" (and even if they are...WHO REALLY CARES???? good for them for managing to take their family to disney!).

As an aside....all of this has nothing to do with pool-hopping, however, b/c that is a direct violation of Disney's rules. However, if someone else wants to pool-hop, I really don't care (and if you do, you really need to get a grip).

 

[diannaneglia]

Ok...I have never done the 'share the burger-buy an extra bun' thing...but I would...I just never thought of it. My husband can eat his...and both kids are vegetarian, so I always order something else...or eat the whole double cheesburger, walking away feeling discustingly full. But like I said, I would definately do it! I agree that if you paid for your food and there is no rule about sharing food, once you have it, you are free to do with it, what you want...even share...has no one ever shared a dessert because you were too full to order one for each of you...? What is the difference. Not only that....like someone posted...they paid extra for the additional bun.

Let me also add...my husband is not coming this trip and my kids are not big eaters...so I plan on sharing an entree with my daughter and buying a side salad besides...and then getting my son a childs meal...am I being cheap...yeah I would be lying if I said I wasn't worried about saving some money where I can but this isn't one of them...I don't want to waste the food...and why spend the money of food that is gonna get thrown away when I can spend it on another day at WDW or on other enjoyments...it isn't like I can carry around the left overs in the parks...and they don't have delivery of your doggie bags to your rooms. One suggestion I saw once, though, is carrying some zipploc baggies with you, so you can add fruit or something left over you can carry with you, for a snack later...not cheap, just smart.

Tie the dirty diaper? No way! Share strollers, now that is a grey area. If I paid for one and was getting ready to leave shortly and saw someone who needed one and they were out of them, I might just give it to them...if they happened to offer me some $$, of course I would first say no thanks and then politely take it if they insist.

At Fudruckers...a hamburger joint...I have definately made a salad out of the fixing bar. Hey the price of your burger includes anything and everything on that bar, so why not. If there isn't a sign stating how much you are allowed to take then take what you want...it isn't stealing...you paid for it.

Pool hopping...if it is a rule...then don't do it. If it isn't a rule then there is no reason you can't go ahead and do it. Just because someone can afford a nicer hotel doesn't always give them rights to everything over people who can't. But rules are rules and everyone should follow them.

All of this boils down to, and it has already been said, if you are so concerned about what everyone else is doing, why are you on a vacation anyhow, obviously you aren't having any fun if you have to pay attention to what other people are doing. I have seen cheap people, BIG TIME, but you know what, so what...ignore it, have fun, enjoy your vacation with the ones you love.

 

[disneyfan67]

I don't think that this thread is 12 pages long about sharing a hambuger. I think a lot of people who have posted on this thread are concerned about the rule breaking of pool hopping, etc, etc.

As for Snow Whites comments below:

I am floored that some people on the DIS think that they are better than people who go to WDW on a budget.

No one is making fun or thinking that they are better because some people are on a budget. I may be wrong but I didn't see that going on. There has been some comments about if you can't afford a vacation then don't go, which is good advice, BTW. Why do some have to play the "you must have more than me game" or class warfare, which I don't get? Stay at what resort you like and let that be the end of it. If you like values then good for you but don't get snarky with people who chose to spend more money than you would. I thought this was America and we had Freedom of choice? I didn't realise that I had to show my W2 form in order to stay at the Poly like the quote below: I'll be sure to bring mine next trip so I won't get kicked out.

And the other thing is, just b/c someone is trying to save a few bucks doesn't mean that they're in the poor house I might have money, but I'm smart enough NOT to waste it when I don't have to. The funny thing is, the people who scream the loudest are usually the people with the biggest debt and lowest income (the anonymity of the Net makes it oh so easy to lie). You know, the whole he doth protest too much thing.

This post below was one of the best I've seen in a while and made me laugh out loud. Great sense of humor and I loved it!

I am shocked an appalled by this entire discussion about double hamburgers!
Didn't anyone ever consider how such a discussion would make Mr. Footlong Hotdog feel?
12 pages have been dedicated to the sharing of double hamburgers and yet there hasn't been one mention of Mr. Footlong Hotdog. He is special too AND he comes with a really big bun to share. Neverthless he has been completely ignored which IMHO is totally shamful!

In light of the forementioned blatant inequity I will make Mr. Footlong Hotdog this promise:

Dear Mr. Footlong Hotdog,
While I don't dig on swine, if ever I do, I hereby promise that I will share you!
Sincerely,
KimberlyC

 

[Mickey Fliers]

I dont disagree with you on the price issue. However, with the pool hopping issue, the problem I have with your statement is that you're assuming your pool was crowded b/c of alleged "hoppers"...well, how do you know it wasnt crowded by the guests staying at the resort, how are you so sure that these were "hoppers"...did you check their resort I.D.? Also, is there some sort of rule book that everyone reads before going? B/c, I personally have never pool hopped but I would never think anything wrong about it cuz I've NEVER EVER in the past 26 years that I've been going to WDW seen this rule ANYWHERE! Where has everyone else seen this rule? I'm not doubting it, I'm just saying in all honesty if I did pool hop I really wouldnt know that this was wrong, so someone tell me where you all have seen this rule...

The rule is clearly stated outside of the pools on a sign "The use of this pool is for resort guests only", or something along those lines. If pool hopping were allowed, why the Fort Knox security around SAB, why the ID checking at AKL and WL (saw this first hand April 2006 and May 2004, respectively)? Heck, FW patrons have to sign a form saying that they are aware that they are not allowed to Pool Hop.

You are right in your assumption that it may not be always be easy to determine if the pool crowding is due to resort guests or hoppers. Except for one thing, resort guests have paid to be there. They can crowd the pool all they want. Hoppers are usually easy to spot, only b/c they are usually talking about it. When you see a family get off the monorail or boat with loaded strollers (even w/balloons) and then they stop at the pool (never going to their room), tell their kids to change in the restroom, it's not rocket surgery.

But I know their are people pool-hopping to different resort pools, and it does not bother me one bit. Big deal! They're just trying to have a good time, the way I look at it. They're on vacation! I don't think they're thinking to themselves, Hey! Let's be bad and pool-hop! The hotels and pools are just as much an attraction to some people as the theme parks. Just like, how some people spend a day hotel hopping. People hotel hop don't they? But ya know what, while I wouldn't let another guest tell me what I can or can't do, I DO have alot of resepct for the people who work there. And if a WDW employee ever said to me that I can't go to the pool b/c I am not a guest of that hotel, then I respect that and I respect them because that person is just doing his or her job

Believe me, I don't let something like pool hopping ruin my vacation, but this sort of warped logic really gets to me. They don't respect their fellow man, unless that is if they are just "doing his or her job". WTH?!?!? So, it is okay to walk barefoot in a restaurant, use your hands in the salad bar, take a pack of gum without paying, insert any behavior that is considered offensive, illegal or just plain rule breaking? It is okay, of course, until someone who works there tells you that you can't? That make absolutely no sense whatsoever to me. If you know it is offessive or against the rules, have some common courtesy!!!

 

[CastMemberDWA]

Just clarifying...
When DVC first began pool hopping was a perk they offered to the DVC members. I remember this being one of the more subtle selling points when I bought my membership.
This has since been revoked, I guess because it got out of hand.

Disney is not the only one with Fort Knox security for the pool issue. The Nick hotel won't let you anywhere near their pool without a wristband. I suspect that there is a huge liability issue as well if one should get injured or drowned and then not be covered by the hotel's insurance policy since they weren't guests. Any legal eagles who'll back me up on that?

If you want pool slides and such try Typhoon Lagoon or Blizzard Beach and make a day of it. Both are awesome!

 

[mrsltg]

I've read this entire thread and participated in it several times. I'm at a loss. One of the biggest reasons is the overriding idea that somehow there are people looking down on others. I haven't really seen that. Seems one or two people got that idea and ran with it. Granted, yes, there are people who look down on you. That's a given. There is one poster on these boards who is about as snide as snide can get and seems to really be up high on that horse. For the most part I've seen people share money-saving ideas. There are some that go too far for my tastes and border on unethical. Others just seem like too much work for me while I'm on vacation.

For the most part though, particularly on this thread, people seem to have decided that others were judging their resort class. I don't see it. I made a comment about paying $500 a night for the Poly vs. $100 a night for the All Stars. There is nothing conceited about it. It's just plain fact. It's not saying I'm better than anyone else or that my vacation is better, just simply, I'm forking it out for a room at the Poly and I want a lounge chair when I go to the pool. That's all. No judgement, no "I'm better" attitude. As far as camping at WDW - not a chance! Good for you if you like camping. I'm not that girl! Again, not a judgement, just point of fact! I also don't bring sandwhiches to the parks. Why? I HATE sandwhiches. Oh yes, I said it! I HATE them! Unless the bread is toasted or the meat is hot (ala hamburger) keep it away from me. I guess that is what makes the world go round, though. Everyone has a different budget and everyone has different tastes. You don't wear a sign in the parks that says where you are staying or how much you are paying.

Everyone, within the established rules , enjoy your vacation!

 

[MouseEarsJenny]

I am shocked an appalled by this entire discussion about double hamburgers!
Didn't anyone ever consider how such a discussion would make Mr. Footlong Hotdog feel?
Dear Mr. Footlong Hotdog,
While I don't dig on swine, if ever I do, I hereby promise that I will share you!
Sincerely,
KimberlyC

LOL!! Thank you. I read through this thread - it's like a train wreck, you can't look away... But didn't think it was worth rehashing everyone's opinions in a post of my own. But when I saw this, I HAD to thank you for the burst of levity!!

 

[MajorWoody]

Just clarifying...
When DVC first began pool hopping was a perk they offered to the DVC members. I remember this being one of the more subtle selling points when I bought my membership.
This has since been revoked, I guess because it got out of hand.

Hello,

Just to further clarify, Pool Hopping is still allowed as a DVC perk, with the exceptions being Stormalong Bay at the Beach Club, and the pool at the AKL.
It's listed in the DVC perks guide.

Hope that helps,

Take care,

Bill