Distance Learning for students at WDW

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This is just not true for every state. When I left teaching after five years I was making $35,000/year. And that was in one of the higher paid districts in my state. I’m sure they are making slightly more now, as I’ve been out for several years. But I do know there is not a pay scale in any district around me that goes to $100,000. This is definitely regional.
I'd say the WA State scale is pretty generous, minimum is $40,000 for first year teachers. Along with incentives for getting a MS and/or National Boards, teaching at a Title 1 school, etc. a teacher after 15 years can be right about $100,000 for their 180+ day contract, plus benefits. But you have to put in your time to get there, but really that's the way of many jobs.
 
What do your 22 & 24 year olds do? I don’t know what professions you refer to or what every profession makes. I work for a large unionized health system. I can tell you RNs, Physical & Respiratory Therapists make less than that starting out & sometimes less than teachers. Working full time, including off shifts, weekends & holidays. When was the last time a teacher worked Christmas or Thanksgiving??

I have a relative with an MBA who is a financial analyst in private industry that makes what your kids make. She is in her 30s with several years of experience. Teacher salaries here start at over 50K & go up quickly. Many make well over 100K. Teacher salaries are public in NY state so anyone can check them out. In my town the majority make over 80K with the highest paid over $110,000.

Again, my point is, teachers everywhere are not poorly paid. I don’t care what profession it is, or what area of the country it is. Anyone making $80 - 100,000 is not poorly paid.
As a physical therapist, I can tell you that at least on average, we definitely make more than 60K as a new grad, often quite a bit more (I'm willing to state that I was at 75K starting out). But we (mostly) have Doctorate degrees with 7-8 years of school, and I will say that we don't make enough to justify that amount of schooling.
 
As a physical therapist, I can tell you that at least on average, we definitely make more than 60K as a new grad, often quite a bit more (I'm willing to state that I was at 75K starting out). But we (mostly) have Doctorate degrees with 7-8 years of school, and I will say that we don't make enough to justify that amount of schooling.
Ironically, Dd19 is an exercise science major and will be applying to grad school this summer for a DPT program. It’s actually been a field she’s been interested in since freshman year in HS, she just got a gig working in a rehab program at a local hospital for the next 6 weeks before going back to UD. Family members (who are doctors) tried to convince her to go that route (my cousin’s wife is a pediatric psychiatrist with her own practice and doesn’t accept insurance, is doing very well), but PT is what she wants to do.
 
Ironically, Dd19 is an exercise science major and will be applying to grad school this summer for a DPT program. It’s actually been a field she’s been interested in since freshman year in HS, she just got a gig working in a rehab program at a local hospital for the next 6 weeks before going back to UD. Family members (who are doctors) tried to convince her to go that route (my cousin’s wife is a pediatric psychiatrist with her own practice and doesn’t accept insurance, is doing very well), but PT is what she wants to do.
That's great!! That's about when my interest in PT started, too. I absolutely love it, but the ratio of cost and length of school compared to pay is very poor, so I tell people that you need to be very interested to make pursuing the career worth it. If you go in knowing that, then you won't be as surprised later.
 

And how petty is that. I thought that the schools "cared" about our children. What they are doing is punishing the child for their parent's decision. So they pitting the child against their parents. Our school district does all it can to help the kids succeed. If you are gone a week, they give you a week after you get back to make up all of the work. The principle will even have you in their office to make up tests if the teachers can't fit it in. They realize that there is more to learn in life then you can learn in school. Having a happy family helps kids learn. And if it comes down to going on vacation during the school year or not at all, they much rather the kids get a few vacations in during their childhood then resent school for not "letting" them go. Big picture here people.
Vacations..of any sort, at any time, to any destination are never..I repeat NEVER more important than school. No matter what grade, level of education or willingness to work around schedules.

vacations more than 25 miles from home are not a vital necessity ever. When we couldn’t coord adult time off work with school breaks, we took short weekend getaways . Disney is not and never will be a viable replacement for education. And no, ‘learning about other cultures at EPCOT‘ is not a thing.
 
Teaching is a contract job. We are not paid for 12 months of work. We are contracted for 9 months out of the year, and that pay is stretched over 12 months. It’s easy to look at the summer and holidays as paid leave, but it isn’t. We don’t get paid for that time. It’s unpaid time off.

Yup. I get paid for 195 days per year. I work a whole lot more than those 195 that I am getting paid for; I'm not complaining, just stating a fact. In fact, right now I am online because I have been spending the last many hours planning lessons for the coming weeks (yes, I am taking a break right now!) We have had two weeks off for winter break this year, and I worked six of the days that I was technically off. Again, not complaining, just stating a fact. I can't get my work done in my contract hours and I accept that as a reality of the profession.

OP - have you thought about camping out at a Starbucks or Panera and using their Wifi? My mom had a bad fall in September and I had to work from three states away. I used the Panera wifi and my car as my virtual classroom and it was fine (not ideal, but fine!)
 
Vacations..of any sort, at any time, to any destination are never..I repeat NEVER more important than school. No matter what grade, level of education or willingness to work around schedules.

vacations more than 25 miles from home are not a vital necessity ever. When we couldn’t coord adult time off work with school breaks, we took short weekend getaways . Disney is not and never will be a viable replacement for education. And no, ‘learning about other cultures at EPCOT‘ is not a thing.

It's not an either or. Your acting like a child will never amount to anything and be so far behind in life by going on vacation. That obviously is not the case since many people take their kids out of school for vacation. It's delusional attitudes like that that give schools "permission" to treat the children like they have done something wrong. When my brother was in 4th grade, he got a severe, compound fracture to his leg. He was in the hospital in traction of weeks and then home in a body cast for longer. He missed months of actual school time and had to have someone come fill him in. How in the world did he ever graduate and amount to anything? 🙄 My husband was a sickly kid. He missed more school then anyone ever does taking a vacation. He graduated with a 4.0. We took our kids out of school for trips and it taught them that in life, if you want to have fun, you will need to work hard for it. Making up school work is part of working for our fun. They wanted to go on vacation so they knew that they would have to work harder to make up the work. How is that in any way a bad thing? It isn't. You do what is right for your family. If you think that it would be too much for your kids to miss a bit of school, then don't take them out. Nobody is making you. But it was just fine for our kids.
 
Vacations..of any sort, at any time, to any destination are never..I repeat NEVER more important than school. No matter what grade, level of education or willingness to work around schedules.

vacations more than 25 miles from home are not a vital necessity ever. When we couldn’t coord adult time off work with school breaks, we took short weekend getaways . Disney is not and never will be a viable replacement for education. And no, ‘learning about other cultures at EPCOT‘ is not a thing.
Amen.
 
Yup. I get paid for 195 days per year. I work a whole lot more than those 195 that I am getting paid for; I'm not complaining, just stating a fact. In fact, right now I am online because I have been spending the last many hours planning lessons for the coming weeks (yes, I am taking a break right now!) We have had two weeks off for winter break this year, and I worked six of the days that I was technically off. Again, not complaining, just stating a fact. I can't get my work done in my contract hours and I accept that as a reality of the profession.

OP - have you thought about camping out at a Starbucks or Panera and using their Wifi? My mom had a bad fall in September and I had to work from three states away. I used the Panera wifi and my car as my virtual classroom and it was fine (not ideal, but fine!)

Sadly, the whole working after hours has become common in this Country. My husband does the same thing, as do many people. I don't know why we, as a society, put up with it. The French didn't and they actually made a law that said that it is illegal to have someone work after hours without pay. You can't even call a person after hours. Working 24/7 was a choice that people made, stupidly. If teachers feel that they put in too many "extra' hours, then they need to do something about it. Most of you have unions. Negotiate that into your contracts.
 

You laughed at my comment about school districts punishing children for their parent's decision. How is that in any way funny? You think that these adults should treat children that way? What kind of person are you? It is never the child's fault for what their parent's decide to do.
 
Yup. I get paid for 195 days per year. I work a whole lot more than those 195 that I am getting paid for; I'm not complaining, just stating a fact.

And that’s what people don’t understand. We do so much more than what is asked of us. We have to if we want to be good. And we do, often times without complaint. Yet sometimes it’s never seen as enough by people outside of the profession.

It’s impossible to be an outstanding teacher and only work during contract hours. If people really knew what we did beyond our contract time (or how much of our own money we spend for professional materials), they would realize why teachers are leaving the profession at an alarming rate.

The perception of teaching is often so far out of touch with the reality of teaching.
 
Perhaps its best that this thread either focus on suggestions of best practices for e-learning while at Disney or be closed. Right now it seems to be turning into less of that and more about teacher's pay and worth.
 
I think the 2 logical things you have to consider are:
Will the WiFi or hotspot work for all 4 of you at once?
How will you handle 4 of you in Zooms at the same time I’m terms of noise? I would not count on being able to find a quiet corner to hide in.
 
all of this about "school is work for children" comes from the brainwashed who think the purpose of school is to create worker drones to go to work like good little soldiers and make other people rich. if you make $100k then you're helping someone else make $500k. just how the world works.It's ok to not be fulfilled by work ,its weird to compete about who can be "workiest" like work is a cult. This attitude usually comes from people my age (old) who say things like "pound the pavement" and I am glad we are a dying breed.there are more important things in life.

Take the vacation.
 
I would also have zero tolerance if a teacher had wifi issues if they decided to go on vacation and had issues. But them again I haven't had a lot of tolerance toward school issues during this whole thing anyway
I have a lot more tolerance towards teachers than this! They are people too, who have been asked to adapt perform and sometimes triple their workloads during this pandemic. You may have had to change and adapt for your job, but does your job entail educating 30+ kids through various platforms (hybrid approach and virtual?) and providing resources for lower income kids or kids with parents who are unwilling or unable to help out at home?

Having said all of that, ordinarily I would say "don't worry about the kids! Let them have a great time!" But distance learning is particularly hard on some kids. My DD7 is having a difficult time keeping up with everything. I help her out, but she often falls behind. She thrives on the in-person instruction and, unfortunately, I am not cut out to be a teacher.
 
1) agreed with others, trying to communicate with 4 people in the same room over their computers doesn’t seem like it would work very well

2) short park hours would make me feel like I was missing out on more than normal...

And the FS amuses me haha
 
I have a lot more tolerance towards teachers than this! They are people too, who have been asked to adapt perform and sometimes triple their workloads during this pandemic. You may have had to change and adapt for your job, but does your job entail educating 30+ kids through various platforms (hybrid approach and virtual?) and providing resources for lower income kids or kids with parents who are unwilling or unable to help out at home?

Having said all of that, ordinarily I would say "don't worry about the kids! Let them have a great time!" But distance learning is particularly hard on some kids. My DD7 is having a difficult time keeping up with everything. I help her out, but she often falls behind. She thrives on the in-person instruction and, unfortunately, I am not cut out to be a teacher.
Sorry, we can agree to disagree. We have all had to adapt many times during all of this. I work as a Firefighter and have adapted many different times with things changing daily in the beginning. So to say I have zero sympathy for teachers that have been working from the confines of home during this is an understatement. I've worked during all of this and during the spring also had to do my civil duty and teach my kids on my off days. We have since moved out of the public school system and into a private school because of how terrible public schools are in my area. Lots of great teachers out there.
 
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