Disneyland Reopening Speculation Superthread

That will be very annoying if you can't use existing tickets. They already moved the expiration date from January 2022 to December 2021, so it would be weird having valid tickets and not being able to use them. Especially since I am a CA resident. I mean, I would still buy additional tickets, but I would be annoyed for sure.

They could do what they've done at Tokyo Disney:

They sell single day, dated tickets. Anyone who had a valid ticket already from a specified time period must enter a lottery to win the chance to make a reservation using their existing ticket.
 
While I think yellow/green tier is likely for when we see it removed I do still think as long as that travel advisory remains in place, the out of state restriction will too regardless of what the tier is. Since the removal of the travel advisory is probably tied to an overall state outlook- I'm not sure what the goal is for that to be removed? A majority of counties at yellow? Green? Perhaps we'll get insight into that when they announce the green tier.

When this was all first announced Dr. Ghaly implied the out of state restriction is because of the travel advisory. It's interesting though because that still recommends CA folks don't travel 120 miles right? Maybe that will get an update before it's removed entirely.
 

That will be very annoying if you can't use existing tickets. They already moved the expiration date from January 2022 to December 2021, so it would be weird having valid tickets and not being able to use them. Especially since I am a CA resident. I mean, I would still buy additional tickets, but I would be annoyed for sure.
Keep in mind - assuming you have something other than a top-tier one-day, one-park pass, your current tickets are more valuable than what they would sell for this - it would not be a great idea to use them, even if they took them. People would be expecting refunds, and I think that would be an unnecessary transactional hassle for Disney. Easier to just keep kicking the can down the road and/or completely refunding those tickets.

(Somebody in another thread claimed that their tickets had already been kicked back to March.)
 
While I think yellow/green tier is likely for when we see it removed I do still think as long as that travel advisory remains in place, the out of state restriction will too regardless of what the tier is. Since the removal of the travel advisory is probably tied to an overall state outlook- I'm not sure what the goal is for that to be removed? A majority of counties at yellow? Green? Perhaps we'll get insight into that when they announce the green tier.

When this was all first announced Dr. Ghaly implied the out of state restriction is because of the travel advisory. It's interesting though because that still recommends CA folks don't travel 120 miles right? Maybe that will get an update before it's removed entirely.

I think we will see the travel advisory disappear by summer. With the president basically calling for a "normal 4th of July", it seems like political pressure will (again) lead Newsom to relent.
 
Keep in mind - assuming you have something other than a top-tier one-day, one-park pass, your current tickets are more valuable than what they would sell for this - it would not be a great idea to use them, even if they took them. People would be expecting refunds, and I think that would be an unnecessary transactional hassle for Disney. Easier to just keep kicking the can down the road and/or completely refunding those tickets.

(Somebody in another thread claimed that their tickets had already been kicked back to March.)
That's very true. Ugh that's annoying. I'd rather be refunded if my tickets won't work.
EtA: just checked, my tickets are valid through January 2022, not decker 2021, oops lol. Gosh I really hope I can use these tickets. Why wouldn't they have started refund on them already? Maybe too much since they're refunding APs right now.
 
I just realized though, [tokyo disney] not owned by Disney. So that decision could be very location specific. Did any other Disney park do that upon opening?
No, and Tokyo Disney has been using lottery systems for years so it makes sense why they did it there.

Just mentioning another possibility they could do :). I really have no clue what to expect (and I'm not getting my hopes up for anything). I'm setting the bar as low as possible so I won't be disappointed.

That said, it's a total FUBAR situation trying to get tickets for our friends across the Pacific. A friend of mine lives nearby and she said the site was just a free for all when she tried to get tickets. One of her friends did get through, filled in her information, clicked submit, and was kicked out because "too many people trying to access the site". Makes Queue It look like a dream :rotfl:
 
I think we will see the travel advisory disappear by summer. With the president basically calling for a "normal 4th of July", it seems like political pressure will (again) lead Newsom to relent.
I think the terms he used was "some normalcy". "If we do this together, by 4 July, there is a good chance you, your family and friends can get together in your backyard or in your neighborhood and have a cookout or a barbecue and celebrate Independence Day." He did say "small groups" somewhere else in his speech. I don't think he is going to advocate for "Let's open up fully!" But I agree with "some normalcy".

That said, I think the travel advisory is likely to disappear at yellow, DEPENDING on how other states are looking.
 
I just realized though, [tokyo disney] not owned by Disney. So that decision could be very location specific. Did any other Disney park do that upon opening?
I'll nudge this - while I personally doubt they'll do what Tokyo did, that's the closest to DL in terms of pressures. WDW had enough capacity (and few state restrictions) that they were able to keep using existing passes, including multi-day passes - they just ditched parkhoppers for a while. They offered refunds for the parkhopping privileges, but I'd bet a lot of people didn't bother to call.

Rather than do Tokyo's thing, I personally think they'll sell unique new tickets in a way that's similar to what they did for Touch of Disney (or the Halloween / Christmas parties).

And, yeah, it'll be an absolute trainwreck for at least the first week.
 
If they do decide to do new one-day tickets, I would bet that they'll announce that as an option when they do the reopening announcement. (Assuming they don't decide to just refund all of them.)
I want them to just go ahead and refund them all asap instead of waiting last minute, but it's their prerogative and these are not ordinary times.
 
I want them to just go ahead and refund them all asap instead of waiting last minute, but it's their prerogative and these are not ordinary times.
If they were waiting at all, it was probably in the hopes that they wouldn't have to do it. Like, this would be about as early as I would expect them to start doing so - or, more likely, make that announcement when they announce the reopening plan so that people know what to expect. People are going to be pissed if they decide to unilaterally refund everybody (similar to the APs) - so there's a little bit less of a PR nightmare if it comes along with whatever the new plan is. I would bet they've spent the time since the state's announcement trying to figure out just what that new plan is.
 
I want them to just go ahead and refund them all asap instead of waiting last minute, but it's their prerogative and these are not ordinary times.
Perhaps there is some cash flow consideration going into when refunds are occurring?

They refunded APs, which had to mean a lot of money out the door. Then they get some TOD tickets sold. Money in. So now they start refunding multi-day tickets. Money out. But hopefully soon they’re selling new tickets of some type. Money in. Etc???

I am not business savvy enough to know whether that makes business sense, but it makes sense in my brain. If they refund everybody, all once, for everything, that’s a lot of money out all at once. Seems better for them to break it up???
 
knowing that this virus is highly likely to be endemic now, will Newsom ever get rid of the tier systems? At some point, you would have to say we are past the pandemic, right? Even if this virus is still around, which it probably will be . . . . forever.
I'll piggy-back on this to note:

The state's description of what Green tier might be isn't 100% open. They're saying it'll come with some social distancing guidelines. I'm curious to see if that means 50% capacity or 75% capacity, but I can't imagine they'll go straight from 35% to 100%. (And who knows if/when it'll get back to 100%.)
 
I want them to just go ahead and refund them all asap instead of waiting last minute, but it's their prerogative and these are not ordinary times.

I'm still waiting on a refund from an inactivated Signature AP with Maxpass that I purchased last May, just before they halted ticket sales. The CMs at the AP refund line have quoted "June" as the goal to just refund all the APs.
 
I am not business savvy enough to know whether that makes business sense, but it makes sense in my brain. If they refund everybody, all once, for everything, that’s a lot of money out all at once. Seems better for them to break it up???
It's also the staffing part of the process. I mean, it took a pretty long while to get through the APs - feels like it'd be smarter not to try to do everything all at once. (Especially since people will almost certainly go ballistic if they decide to refund passes - I think a lot people have been expecting to be able to bypass whatever method they use to start selling new tickets, and are now going to have to wait in a queue with everyone else.)
 
Perhaps there is some cash flow consideration going into when refunds are occurring?

They refunded APs, which had to mean a lot of money out the door. Then they get some TOD tickets sold. Money in. So now they start refunding multi-day tickets. Money out. But hopefully soon they’re selling new tickets of some type. Money in. Etc???

I am not business savvy enough to know whether that makes business sense, but it makes sense in my brain. If they refund everybody, all once, for everything, that’s a lot of money out all at once. Seems better for them to break it up???
Oh my gosh yall this has made me so sad!!!!! I was OK with the whole AP thing, but now my tickets which cost me hundreds of dollars that I never got to use?!?!?! It's making me feel not so Disney!🤣🤣🤣🤣
 







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