Disneyland at Christmas/Holiday Season Superthread #3!- HOLIDAYS BEGIN 11/12/13!!

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Hi Everyone!
Let me begin by saying Thank You! to all of our service men and women, past, current and future. You are appreciated and prayed for.

Ive just been browsing through the thread and I see the initials "CP" and it dawned on me that their may a "Christmas Party" like at WDW.
Do I panic now and start watching like a hawk or is this still undecided?
I did read the first page but Sherrie I dont know how often that is update.
I appreciate any knowledge my "Dosneylander" friends.
Thank you!

PS~ Sherri (one day I will spell it correctly!) I have only see the hotels decked out fully for Christmas once. We go in November because 1) our anniversary is the same day as MM b-day 2) the crowds havnt fully hit yet and 3) kids are usually involved in something at school or theater and there is rehersal after rehersal!
I have 2 Bucket lists~ one is general and the other is Disney my way!:goodvibes
 
Hi Everyone!
Let me begin by saying Thank You! to all of our service men and women, past, current and future. You are appreciated and prayed for.

Ive just been browsing through the thread and I see the initials "CP" and it dawned on me that their may a "Christmas Party" like at WDW.
Do I panic now and start watching like a hawk or is this still undecided?
I did read the first page but Sherrie I dont know how often that is update.
I appreciate any knowledge my "Dosneylander" friends.
Thank you!

PS~ Sherri (one day I will spell it correctly!) I have only see the hotels decked out fully for Christmas once. We go in November because 1) our anniversary is the same day as MM b-day 2) the crowds havnt fully hit yet and 3) kids are usually involved in something at school or theater and there is rehersal after rehersal!
I have 2 Bucket lists~ one is general and the other is Disney my way!:goodvibes

Hello again, Arizona Rita!

Okay, first -- this is a relatively new thread. As you can see, we are only about 30 pages in or so, give or take. It was just started this past December, when we hit the page limit on the previous thread and we were just about to reach the end of the previous holiday season.

So all of the posts that you see on Page 1 (the first 9 posts) have been added to and filled in either late last year or this year, as we await news on the upcoming season. The very first post on Page 1 was updated within the last couple of weeks when we found out that the season begins on Tuesday, 11/12 (see the title of this thread as well). I can update with that info because it is official, as it was released to the public via the Annual Pass holders newsletter/magazine. You can also always tell when a post was updated by looking at the very bottom of the posts, in the tiny print.

Anything else that has been discussed in the last week, i.e., the Candlelight Ceremony probably being cut back to 2 nights (down from 20 last year) or a possible holiday World of Color and a possible Christmas party, has not been added to the first page yet because it has not been announced to the general public yet. The Candlelight info is almost certain to happen, but it has not been printed in any public media yet, so that's why I have not updated the first page with that info.

"CP" stands for Candlelight Processional, not Christmas party. Even though the Processional is now called the Candlelight Ceremony, people still refer to it as the "CP."

If you scroll back through the last few pages of this thread you will see that we have been discussing a possible party, but that has not been confirmed or made official. It is a rumor posted by MiceAge. It is likely to happen, but exactly when the party would occur and what would be included in it are the questions. If/when we get the official word on a party, I will post info about it somewhere on Page 1.

If you ever forget how to spell my name, just look at my posts. <<<Name spelling is to the left. That will tell you.:goodvibes

The hotels will not be decorated when the season starts on 11/12, unless Disney suddenly decides to change things around on us. Most likely the hotels will be decorated right around Thanksgiving. I expect the trees/wreaths may go up in the hotels a few days before Thanksgiving, possibly, and Santa and the carolers would appear after Thanksgiving ends. I could be wrong, but it's an educated guess.
 
We will be at DLR from December 18th through the 23rd. Last year was our very first holiday trip, and I am sooooo in love with the memories, that I just have to get back there this year. This whole party thing has me confused. Do you think they will still be having parties when we are there? I will feel taken advantage of if I have to pay to do what we did last year for the price of a DL ticket. On the other hand, if the party were at DCA, then I might really enjoy a party with totally new things to do. But, maybe all of my musings are a waste of time because the parties would not be happening during the late date of our trip. What do you think, Sherry?
 
Yes, I would prefer December, but the kids have a week of conferences where they are in school until 11:00. I feel less guilty pulling them out of school for a couple of half days. And I like the weekday crowd levels. So November it is!

Plus I am hoping for a possible Disapalooza trip to WDW in December. I usually meet my sister there. Crossing my fingers!
 

We will be at DLR from December 18th through the 23rd. Last year was our very first holiday trip, and I am sooooo in love with the memories, that I just have to get back there this year. This whole party thing has me confused. Do you think they will still be having parties when we are there? I will feel taken advantage of if I have to pay to do what we did last year for the price of a DL ticket. On the other hand, if the party were at DCA, then I might really enjoy a party with totally new things to do. But, maybe all of my musings are a waste of time because the parties would not be happening during the late date of our trip. What do you think, Sherry?

Hello, and welcome back, lucysmom!

I cannot blame you at all for wanting to experience another DLR holiday visit this year! Yours is the experience I always expect (hope) people will have -- that they get a taste of the season at DLR and become addicted, wanting to go back and experience it again! In fact, I am always a little surprised (and sad) when someone reports that they didn't have that great of a time...which doesn't happen often, but it does happen every now and then. It's such a beautiful, enchanting, joyful time to be at the Resort and it's hard to imagine someone not loving it.

I also cannot blame you for pondering a possible Christmas party scenario. True, it may never happen...but it may happen. And since it's quite possible that if it IS happening Disney might not announce it for at least few months, when rumors float around now it is going to be discussed!

I could be totally, 100% wrong, but my pure guess (based in part on what Janet has said in this thread about how the WDW Christmas parties are handled) would be that IF Disneyland has a Christmas party, all parties would end by or before Friday, December 20th, at the very latest. (The Candlelight Processional/Ceremony ended its run on December 20th last year, so that is also what I am using as a guideline.) I think they would clear out the parties by that weekend (possibly earlier) and then make room for the Christmas week visitors.

I have a hunch that, just like WDW does, Disneyland would then run the Believe in Holiday Magic fireworks and the Christmas Fantasy Parade for the week of Christmas and the week of New Year's -- when the crowds are piling in.

I really wonder when the party would actually get started, though. If we use the Halloween parties as a model for Christmas parties, Disneyland has 2 parties a week (give or take a night) all through the month of October, and usually starting at the end of September.

So, would this mean that a Christmas party would start shortly after the season begins on 11/12, if they are to get in at least a full month's worth of parties? I'm not sure. Maybe they'd start them after Thanksgiving, but that would be a short run.

I have read some comments on other boards that indicate that many people think the Halloween parties are a good value and that folks are saving money because they are paying less money for 8 hours in the park -- with access to most (but not all) attractions in the park, and with extras like Halloween fireworks, the Cavalcade and candy -- than they would be paying for a one-day/one-park ticket. So I suspect that many people will look at a Christmas party that same way too -- that it's some kind of value.

That might work if you only wanted to be at DLR from 3 p.m. or 4 p.m. on. The thing is, what are the chances that the party guests would not be in one of the two parks earlier that day (before the party began)? Chances are, the multi-day visitors and/or AP holders would want to be in either DL or DCA before the party started. They wouldn't want to just show up at 4 p.m. and that's it.

The way it would work -- in my estimation -- is that people would be paying extra (and not saving) to be in one park or both parks earlier in the day, and then to be at a party at night. Either they'd be using a Hopper to be in the park(s) earlier or just a one-day ticket, and then would pay for the additional price of a party.

Disney would not pull a party out of its hat unless it had a way to make extra money out of the deal. This would not be a method to help people save money and get value!

So I guess it's all in how you look at things, but I tend to think a lot of people will also feel taken advantage of, as you would, lucysmom -- especially if the party involves the same ol' holiday parade and the same ol' holiday fireworks and snow to which they have become accustomed for years! That -- to me -- is not the smartest way to handle a new Christmas party on Disney's end, and I hope they rethink that plan, IF that is what they are planning. It's not too late to save Christmas!:rotfl2:



Yes, I would prefer December, but the kids have a week of conferences where they are in school until 11:00. I feel less guilty pulling them out of school for a couple of half days. And I like the weekday crowd levels. So November it is!

Plus I am hoping for a possible Disapalooza trip to WDW in December. I usually meet my sister there. Crossing my fingers!

Halloweenqueen --

November is better than no holiday DLR trip at all! You'll still get to ride IASWH and HMH, as well as see the Jingle Jangle Jamboree and all of that, so it's a good dose of Christmas fun!
 
Yes, save Christmas, that is your mission, Sherry, should you choose to accept it! Well, since we will probably miss the parties, will we miss the special activities, too? Will they just run the special activities anyway? Last year we learned about the holiday tour from your thread, among other items. I would hope they would still have the tour, holiday parade, holiday fireworks, etc. Plus, I would love to see an all holiday WOC. I wasn't very impressed with the little Christmas introduction they had last year. And, ooohhhh, a holiday Toy Story Mania! How great would that be?!! I guess I will just have to wait and see what comes. I will be glued to your thread. Thank you for all that you do to keep our spirit alive and informed.
 
Yes, save Christmas, that is your mission, Sherry, should you choose to accept it! Well, since we will probably miss the parties, will we miss the special activities, too? Will they just run the special activities anyway? Last year we learned about the holiday tour from your thread, among other items. I would hope they would still have the tour, holiday parade, holiday fireworks, etc. Plus, I would love to see an all holiday WOC. I wasn't very impressed with the little Christmas introduction they had last year. And, ooohhhh, a holiday Toy Story Mania! How great would that be?!! I guess I will just have to wait and see what comes. I will be glued to your thread. Thank you for all that you do to keep our spirit alive and informed.

lucysmom --

You're very welcome, and I'm so glad the thread has been helpful.

I am fairly sure that you probably wouldn't have to deal with more than one night of a party, if even that. The parties would probably be almost ending or already over by the time you arrived. And I think that the holiday fireworks, snow and holiday parade would be going on every day night from whenever the last party would be held, on through January 5th or whenever the season ends, for the general public. I don't think you'll miss those things.

You know, you bring up a good point about the tour. I think that you'd be able to do the tour again and get the full tour activities during your trip, but I wonder how the tour will be handled IF there is a party earlier in December and in November.

While I am positive that DLR would offer some sort of package deal in which a party and the tour were offered together (as they did with the Halloween party and Happiest Haunts tour), what would happen to the tour on the non-party days prior to Christmas week?

Let's face it -- a huge reason for buying a holiday tour ticket is to get seats for the Christmas Fantasy Parade, not the Soundsational Parade. If Soundsational were running on non-party days/nights, would the tour then include seats for that? And wouldn't people be annoyed at that, because they'd want seats for the Christmas parade? Again, this is another reason to hold the party in DCA!!!!

I just wonder how it will all go over if this party happens.

Not being a big WoC person myself, I think that an all-holiday World of Color would be lovely. I am all about Christmas-y things, so I would prefer a complete holiday version instead of the Prep & Landing bit they've had for the last couple of years.

The holiday Toy Story Midway Mania was hinted at shortly after TSMM opened 5 years ago, and again after WoC opened. Apparently, TSMM -- just like WoC -- is set up to easily receive a holiday overlay (there would be holiday games in the ride, I suppose) and a Halloween overlay, and the Mr. Potato Head holiday/Halloween banter was supposedly already recorded years ago. But Disney is, I guess, just sitting on it.

This is the 5th anniversary of TSMM's opening. Wouldn't this year be a nice time to bust out the holiday overlay and let Mr. Potato Head sing his Christmas songs in line?!
 
I found this interesting...in that non-information sort of way...:rotfl2:

Last week I wrote to DLR's Guest Communications...or Guest Experiences...or Guest Relations...or whatever they are calling it these days. I asked them to please forward my letter on to Team Disney Anaheim, or whomever is making decisions regarding the seasonal events. In the email I was primarily talking about Halloween Time (since that season is coming up first, in 3-1/2 months), and how California Adventure needs some semblance of Halloween back in the park. I gave them suggestions as to things they do in DCA (not that they need creative ideas, but it doesn't hurt to suggest things).

After all of my Halloween Time babble, towards the end of the email I mentioned that "word is leaking out" about the Candlelight Ceremony being held only 2 nights this year (via a letter sent out from Disney). I mentioned that 2 nights seemed to be a drastic drop-off from 20 nights, and it seemed like there could be some sort of "compromise" worked out for the people who fell in love with the CP last year and would like more chances to see it again this year.

I also threw in something at the end about how a party with only the long-established holiday entertainment would be a terrible idea, IF that is what they are planning, and that they should come up with some new entertainment for it and/or have the party in DCA.


The response I got today -- which, incidentally, ignored the entire Halloween portion of the email -- included this snippet:

"...Regretfully, the information about changing Christmas in
Disneyland has yet to be determined. Your remarks have been forwarded
to the necessary leadership team so they are aware of your feedback."



Hmmm... While I don't expect the Guest Services/Experiences/Communications people to have or reveal the inside scoop on what's happening with Halloween Time or Christmas time (they are usually among the last to know), I found it interesting that Halloween was glossed over completely, but "changing Christmas" (those were the DLR person's words, not mine) was addressed.

So, this leads me to believe that Halloween Time is already signed, sealed, delivered and set in stone. Plans for Halloween Time -- for better or worse -- have most definitely already been determined.

But...could it be true that the details of the holiday season have not been fine-tuned, and that they are still yet to be determined?? Let's hope so! Maybe the "necessary leadership" is doing some serious thinking and re-thinking about how to best handle the events of the season.

As I mentioned several days ago, I have a feeling that DLR has probably been bombarded with mail from angry people who interpreted the MiceAge article from last week to be fact, and who are complaining (already) about a party that may never happen. It's possible that the Guest Services/Experiences/Communications folks have been delivering the vague "...the information about changing Christmas in Disneyland has yet to be determined..." sentence to everyone.

I may be the only one who cared enough to write out my thoughts about improving Halloween Time, so maybe they didn't have a handy, prepared response for that!:rotfl:
 
I agree with your thoughts on this. What I think is a possibility (which is pure speculation at this point) is that this Christmas that they will add a special Christmas time WOC, TSMM and a few other things in CA and see what the response will be. Then if they get good feedback from these this year, then turn it into a party similar to WDW's MVMCP in 2014, hopefully in CA, which in my mind is where a party of this nature truly belongs. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out over the next couple of months. And something for a chuckle. Our washing machine went to the great and mighty washing machine heaven in the sky last week. After much thought we decided on a top loading washer, not realizing it plays a version of ISMAW when it finishes the cycle. We had no idea it did this until I completed our first load of laundry and almost died laughing at the little ditty the machine was proudly doing to let me know the cycle was complete for a minute it plays this tune:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:. DS10 hates it with a passion (even though he's just a big fan of Disney as I am).
 
I agree with your thoughts on this. What I think is a possibility (which is pure speculation at this point) is that this Christmas that they will add a special Christmas time WOC, TSMM and a few other things in CA and see what the response will be. Then if they get good feedback from these this year, then turn it into a party similar to WDW's MVMCP in 2014, hopefully in CA, which in my mind is where a party of this nature truly belongs. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out over the next couple of months. And something for a chuckle. Our washing machine went to the great and mighty washing machine heaven in the sky last week. After much thought we decided on a top loading washer, not realizing it plays a version of ISMAW when it finishes the cycle. We had no idea it did this until I completed our first load of laundry and almost died laughing at the little ditty the machine was proudly doing to let me know the cycle was complete for a minute it plays this tune:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:. DS10 hates it with a passion (even though he's just a big fan of Disney as I am).

Trish -

I've never heard of a washing machine that plays Disney songs at the end of a cycle! What kind of crazy washing machine is that?:rotfl2:

When you finally get to ride It's a Small World Holiday for the first time you will hear "Jingle Bells" and "Deck the Halls" mixed in with the usual IASW song. When you pass by the scene with Ariel, you will hear "Jingle shells...jingle shells..."

I hope you're right! I definitely think that it would be "like Disney" to debut something for the season, get feedback on it and see if it could stand on its own as a party exclusive. That's totally what I would have expected them to do -- that's what they did with Halloween Screams, after all. They ran HS in 2009, gauged the overall reaction to it and established that it was positive, and then threw it into the Halloween party mix as an exclusive in 2010.

Also, I think that's what Disney was trying to do last year with the 20-night Candlelight Ceremony (CP) run -- they figured they would test out how popular it was, and if it was successful they could either throw it into a Christmas party OR relocate it somewhere within either park where they could start charging for dinner packages.

I think that when Disney ran the numbers, realizing that they (supposedly) lost a lot of revenue due to the CP last year, instead of working on a quick back-up plan to move the CP somewhere where they could start the dinner packages, they instead shifted focus to a party.

But because Disney knows that the holiday fireworks, snow and holiday parade are already big hits and have been big hits for years, they probably assumed that it would work to steal all of those things from the regular roster of holiday entertainment and put them in a party. They wouldn't have to test anything out.

I am hoping that someone taking part in those creative planning meetings spoke up and set them straight!

It's still possible that Disney might not start up a party this year. They may debut the holiday WoC and see what kind of reaction it gets so that they can either make it a party exclusive next year, OR so that they can use it as a viable entertainment option in DCA for people who do not wish to buy party tickets if the party is held in DL.

Another possibility is that they could do a party sort of thing for one or two nights this year, under the Limited Time Magic title, and use that as a way to gauge the general interest in a party for next year.


I have a feeling that DLR's "...the information about changing Christmas in
Disneyland has yet to be determined
..." response is what they have been doling out to everyone who has been writing since the MiceAge article last week. My Halloween Time commentary was totally and completely ignored, of course!:rotfl2: (But, I mean, really...they need to get some Halloween back in DCA!)
 
I agree with your thoughts on this. What I think is a possibility (which is pure speculation at this point) is that this Christmas that they will add a special Christmas time WOC, TSMM and a few other things in CA and see what the response will be. Then if they get good feedback from these this year, then turn it into a party similar to WDW's MVMCP in 2014, hopefully in CA, which in my mind is where a party of this nature truly belongs. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out over the next couple of months. And something for a chuckle. Our washing machine went to the great and mighty washing machine heaven in the sky last week. After much thought we decided on a top loading washer, not realizing it plays a version of ISMAW when it finishes the cycle. We had no idea it did this until I completed our first load of laundry and almost died laughing at the little ditty the machine was proudly doing to let me know the cycle was complete for a minute it plays this tune:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:. DS10 hates it with a passion (even though he's just a big fan of Disney as I am).

That made me laugh so much! I bought a new fridge about 18 months ago and discovered while cleaning it that instead of the usual 'you've left the door open too long' beep it plays 'Jingle Bells' - it still brings a smile to my face and certainly entertains visitors!

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I only have one photo with Sulley, and my friend's husband took the picture of us from a distance. I would like to get a shot that is a little more close-up.


The Cars characters pose interesting challenges for photos too. Yes, of course, McQueen and Mater "talk" to the guests in Cars Land. Mater even has his own Christmas-y banter and Santa hat during the holidays. But they can't really "pose" with you. They can't hug you. They can't put their arms around you. They can't interact in the same way that the walking characters can. I watch people try to figure out how to pose with them and it always looks a little awkward to me. I noticed it at the Snowy the Snow Car photo spot too. I know that back when McQueen and Mater were set up in Condor Flats (pre-Cars Land), my friends and I didn't know really how or where to stand with these cars. I thought it was just us, until I saw others struggling with the same scenarios at the various photo spots in Cars Land.

Well, people who have difficulty posing with the Cars characters *obviously* are either too inhibited or just don't love them enough ;) , because my sons had no problem hugging Lightning and Mater, even if the vehicles could not hug them back, or jumping up and down like the kids were on a pogo stick with their arms raised. ;) You can also play a bit of doctor with Mater:
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As for Sullie, you could always try to get this close:
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Awwww cute pics!! The new washer is one of the newer models of Samsung top load washers. We got a top loader, as our laundry room is very narrow, and felt a top loader would give us more room. It's definitely getting the clothes cleaner than the old side loader we had, even though it's uses more water. We had no idea of it's Disneyesque tunes it played, till we went to use it for the first time. I will tell you one thing though, my DS10 would have never considered using the old washing machine, but with the new one he's eager and ready to do his own laundry. Go figure. He actually enjoys doing laundry now, and will hunt all over the house for clothes to wash:rotfl::rotfl:. I'm just being careful that he doesn't overload the machine.
 
Well, people who have difficulty posing with the Cars characters *obviously* are either too inhibited or just don't love them enough ;) , because my sons had no problem hugging Lightning and Mater, even if the vehicles could not hug them back, or jumping up and down like the kids were on a pogo stick with their arms raised. ;) You can also play a bit of doctor with Mater:
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As for Sullie, you could always try to get this close:
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TigerlilyAJ --

Welcome back to the thread -- or rather, welcome to the new thread (since we hit the page limit in the old one)!:cool1::cool1:

What absolutely adorable pics those are! So cute!

I love Cars Land -- but I don't love the Cars characters because I don't love the movies. I am definitely not inhibited with characters -- nor have I ever been. (I have photos in my TR thread in which I am soaking up all of the attention from characters over the years while my friend gets ignored!:rotfl2:) I am usually the one leading the charge to the characters to pose with them, while my friends are grumbling and complaining.

I just happen to prefer the characters that can actually hug back. And judging from the other awkward poses I saw around Cars Land last year, I think there are other folks who feel the same way!:rotfl2: Adults are different than kids!

Believe me, if I were the one taking the photo of Sulley posing with other people, my picture would have been fine! I know not to stand 10 miles away.:rotfl2: I take pretty decent photos. I like to get up close and in-depth (hence, my Mardi Gras mask adventures from last year). It's my friend's husband who stood waaaay far away when my friends and I were posing with Sulley, and he took the photo of us (unaware of where the zoom feature was).



Awwww cute pics!! The new washer is one of the newer models of Samsung top load washers. We got a top loader, as our laundry room is very narrow, and felt a top loader would give us more room. It's definitely getting the clothes cleaner than the old side loader we had, even though it's uses more water. We had no idea of it's Disneyesque tunes it played, till we went to use it for the first time. I will tell you one thing though, my DS10 would have never considered using the old washing machine, but with the new one he's eager and ready to do his own laundry. Go figure. He actually enjoys doing laundry now, and will hunt all over the house for clothes to wash:rotfl::rotfl:. I'm just being careful that he doesn't overload the machine.

Trish --

Too funny! What a crazy washing machine. Now if you could get the dryer to play "In the Tiki, Tiki, Tiki, Tiki, Tiki Room..." you'd really be having some fun doing the laundry!

As I mentioned last night, you have a treat to look forward to with It's a Small World Holiday because not only will you get a little bit of a break from the regular IASW song, but there are colors, aromas, lights and all sorts of wonderful things to enjoy. Plus, of course, at night the facade of IASWH is just breathtaking in all of those colored lights. The level of detail that goes into transforming that ride into the Holiday version every year is just astounding. Even some of the smallest things -- that may otherwise go unnoticed -- inside the ride are changed to holiday versions. It's really incredible.
 
For those of you who have been at DL during Christmas week is it worth it with the crowds is it really packed like sardines! I booked our stay at VGC from 12/22-12/27 now I'm having second thoughts about taking our son out a week early and go from the 15-20 but would need to act fast as the villas sell out quick.
 
We stayed at GCH last Christmas week. It was the best Christmas ever and I would do it again in a heartbeat!
I didn't think it was anymore crowded than Spring break, mid July or Halloween time. Disneyland is crowded no matter what time of year it is. You just have to give yourself enough time and be patient with everyone. Put yourself in the frame of mind that you are going to have amazing Christmas!

By the way... we woke up Christmas eve with pouring rain, so we switched it up and opened our gifts that morning and relaxed in the room for awhile. Christmas morning we got up early and did the EE. Did RSR, LFT, MJJ, TOT, SOC and TSMM that first hour... most we have ever accomplished for EE.
 
For those of you who have been at DL during Christmas week is it worth it with the crowds is it really packed like sardines! I booked our stay at VGC from 12/22-12/27 now I'm having second thoughts about taking our son out a week early and go from the 15-20 but would need to act fast as the villas sell out quick.

Welcome, ToodlesRN!

At the beginning of this thread, somewhere in the first page or two, another DIS'er (JediMasterNerd) posted about his experience at DLR over Christmas last year. I can't recall if he specifically mentioned crowds, but his trip recap will still be relevant to your trip (just as lana772's info is)! Last year is a good indicator of what crowds could be like this year because it was the first holiday season with Cars Land and Buena Vista Street in the mix, and the flow of crowds and crowd dynamics probably changed a bit from prior years. I'll find the link to the other DIS'er's post for you if you don't see it.

Sure, numbers-wise, you might run into fewer people if you changed your dates to one week earlier (there may be fewer people out on their work/school breaks), but I think the fact that you'll have a good 5 days or so in the parks will be enough to combat dealing with crowds. If it were a 1-day trip it might be different.

Plus, I think the excitement of being at DLR on Christmas Eve and Christmas day, and waking up in a lovely villa at the GCH, will be a wonderful experience!

In 2007-2008-2009 I visited the parks on the weekend immediately before Christmas, which was sometimes just a few days before 12/25. While I loved the extra-Christmas-y vibe in the air during that time frame, I have since switched my holiday trips to early December (first or second week) because the crowds I encountered in Disneyland 2009 were too thick for my liking, and I was not expecting them. This was pre-DCA "re-imagining," of course, so the bulk of the crowds were probably centered in Disneyland and not in DCA. I couldn't even get into the shops in New Orleans Square because there were mobs of people blocking the alleys!

However, that said, on my Disneyland bucket list is to one day actually be there for a few days over Christmas week, so that I can wake up on DLR property on Christmas day, and watch Dickens carolers perform on Christmas Eve, etc. It just seems like it would be magical (albeit more expensive to stay onsite and more crowded in the parks).



We stayed at GCH last Christmas week. It was the best Christmas ever and I would do it again in a heartbeat!
I didn't think it was anymore crowded than Spring break, mid July or Halloween time. Disneyland is crowded no matter what time of year it is. You just have to give yourself enough time and be patient with everyone. Put yourself in the frame of mind that you are going to have amazing Christmas!

By the way... we woke up Christmas eve with pouring rain, so we switched it up and opened our gifts that morning and relaxed in the room for awhile. Christmas morning we got up early and did the EE. Did RSR, LFT, MJJ, TOT, SOC and TSMM that first hour... most we have ever accomplished for EE.

lana772 --

I also think that a lot of it has to do with perception, don't you? Some folks are more inclined to think that the parks are unbearably crowded, while others may not find the crowds to be that bad on the same exact day! If you go to DLR not expecting big crowds, then what you encounter when you're there may seem enormous. If you go in and expect huge crowds, then chances are the crowds will seem less daunting once you get in...which is good!

I recall some people who came back from trips in the Christmas week or Christmas-to-New Year's week a couple of years back and they said that the crowds were not nearly as bad as they expected them to be 'round-the-clock. That is the hope/goal -- that whatever is expected to be bad will turn out to be not that bad!

The week of Christmas and the week of New Years are definitely very busy -- hence, the reason why Disneyland Resort entertainment is in full swing, the hours are long and the hotel rates are higher during those 2 weeks -- but I think that going in with the right mindset and expectations is crucial!
 
ToodlesRN -

Here is the link to JediMasterNerd's extremely informative, helpful post from page 2 of this thread, as I mentioned in my above post -- http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=47018031&postcount=19.

I'm so glad that we have people in this thread like Jedi, lana772 and a couple of others, who have shared their Christmas week/Christmas Day experiences. A lot of people want to know about that time frame. Many of us go to the parks every holiday season, but our trips are spread out from early November on through the last day of the season in January. It's fantastic to have a wide array of people here who have experienced all the different holiday time frames in the parks!

Thank you to everyone who contributes!:grouphug::goodvibes

I remembered one thing that I did not mention in my previous post. One of my Facebook friends (not a DIS'er) took her two young sons to DLR last year for Christmas Eve, Christmas day and the day after Christmas. She told me that the crowds were not too bad (in her estimation) at all until much later on 12/25. By nighttime she said the crowds had picked up a lot, and then 12/26 was busy, busy, busy. But she didn't seem to think the crowds were too outrageous pre-Christmas day night!
 
Hey y'all,

Has anyone got any idea where to find a list of all refurbishments going on during the 2013 Holiday Season? Thank you in advance!:thumbsup2
 
Hey y'all,

Has anyone got any idea where to find a list of all refurbishments going on during the 2013 Holiday Season? Thank you in advance!:thumbsup2

Hello, greenkai3000!

Welcome back! (You posted in the previous Superthread last year, before we hit the page limit and switched to this new thread.) It's funny -- I thought of you a couple of days ago, surprisingly enough!:rotfl2:

I was skimming over page 1 of this thread and checking for what I still need to add in and what needs to be tweaked, etc. I looked at my dedicated post all about Treats/Food. etc. I remembered that last year you were interested in hearing about all of the yummy holiday treats, and I figured that the Treats post would be a good one for you (although, by now, I'm sure you know which treats will be available as you probably sampled some of them last year)!

Anyway, I am not aware of any comprehensive list of refurbishments that extends through the holiday season. I know that BTMRR is down until sometime in the Fall, correct? Other than that, I don't know if we know of any other refurbs in November or December just yet?? Maybe HydroGuy knows?

IASW Holiday should be up and running by 11/8 or 11/9, I would think. IF there is a holiday World of Color this year, that will probably be running by 11/8. The miniature decorations on the Storybook Land boat ride cottages should be in place by mid-November.
 
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