Disney World removes gators from shows and rides

[Planogirl]

The alligators were missing from the "Living with the Land" ride today.

That is surprising. I wonder what they plan to do with them.

 

[plutotek]

That is surprising. I wonder what they plan to do with them.

Today's special is...

 

[declansdad]

That is surprising. I wonder what they plan to do with them.

It was my understanding that they actually belong to a gator farm.

 

[bcla]

Today's special is...

That's actually going to be illegal in California in a few years. There's a law that bans the sale of any crocodilian animal part. It had a sunset clause, which had been extended after lobbying by luxury goods (belts, shoes, handbags) retailers, as well as the State of Louisiana, whic was representing alligator farmers/hunters.

I've had alligator before. Not bad, but kind of expensive. Louisiana style food at a county fair, although I've seen it on the menu at a food truck.

There was a thread a few years back asking about alligator nuggets.

http://www.disboards.com/threads/alligator-bites.3358312/

 

[720L]

That is surprising. I wonder what they plan to do with them.

I meant the fake gators in the water on the ride...I think they were in the jungle scene? The live ones were still in their cage.

 

[goofyernmost]

But it's a distinction that very few people understand or care about. They're similar enough that few are going to forgive that "it's not a gator".

What's most important is that the death at the jaws of an alligator was dramatic and newsworthy because it's something so rare. I don't expect they would shut down or modify all car based attractions if someone died from an on-property vehicle collision. However, the alligator attack was just something so mind boggling that Disney had to address it even if just some sort of whitewash.

And some sort of whitewash was exactly what they did. I believe to the proper degree.

That is surprising. I wonder what they plan to do with them.

Today's special is...

That was what I was going to say... Lunch.

I meant the fake gators in the water on the ride...I think they were in the jungle scene? The live ones were still in their cage.

You'll have to refresh my memory. I don't remember any on the Living with the Land ride other then the gator farm live ones. Where were they located? If they did exist they were only a threat to fake people.

 

[720L]

They were in the water to the right of the boat in the jungle scene, they went up & down.

 

[Ndusmama]

That's actually going to be illegal in California in a few years. There's a law that bans the sale of any crocodilian animal part. It had a sunset clause, which had been extended after lobbying by luxury goods (belts, shoes, handbags) retailers, as well as the State of Louisiana, whic was representing alligator farmers/hunters.

I've had alligator before. Not bad, but kind of expensive. Louisiana style food at a county fair, although I've seen it on the menu at a food truck.

There was a thread a few years back asking about alligator nuggets.

http://www.disboards.com/threads/alligator-bites.3358312/

Wait there is a very popular restaurant in the north hills area of San Diego that makes hamburgers from all sorts of things. Some of them I think are not legal to sell in the USA.

http://crazeeburger.com/

 

[bcla]

Wait there is a very popular restaurant in the north hills area of San Diego that makes hamburgers from all sorts of things. Some of them I think are not legal to sell in the USA.

http://crazeeburger.com/

I looked at their exotic meats section, and I couldn't find anything that would be generally illegal in the US. Buffalo (probably a bison hybrid), deer, elk, and ostrich are farmed. Wild boar is pretty legal. Camels are raised around the world for meat, and it's not illegal in the US.

One strange thing I recall from years ago was a hotel restaurant in Berkeley that served exotic meats, including lion. They weren't doing anything illegal, but they ended up with protesters on the sidewalk. Also, horse meat for human consumption isn't legal after a horse lover introduced a ballot proposition making it illegal that passed by a wide margin. I though it was silly, but it was more or less sentimental. My European coworkers said they liked horse meat.

Alligator won't be OK in California because of this law. The rationale isn't about protecting American alligators, but that it's hard to tell the difference between the hides of of crocodilians, which include the critically endangered Chinese alligator.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=639-653.2

653o.
(b) (1) Commencing January 1, 2020, it shall be unlawful to import
into this state for commercial purposes, to possess with intent to
sell, or to sell within the state, the dead body, or any part or
product thereof, of a crocodile or alligator.
(2) This subdivision shall not be construed to authorize the
importation or sale of any alligator or crocodilian species, or any
products thereof, that are listed as endangered under the federal
Endangered Species Act, or to allow the importation or sale of any
alligator or crocodilian species, or any products thereof, in
violation of any federal law or international treaty to which the
United States is a party.​

 

[plutotek]

I looked at their exotic meats section, and I couldn't find anything that would be generally illegal in the US. Buffalo (probably a bison hybrid), deer, elk, and ostrich are farmed. Wild boar is pretty legal. Camels are raised around the world for meat, and it's not illegal in the US.

One strange thing I recall from years ago was a hotel restaurant in Berkeley that served exotic meats, including lion. They weren't doing anything illegal, but they ended up with protesters on the sidewalk. Also, horse meat for human consumption isn't legal after a horse lover introduced a ballot proposition making it illegal that passed by a wide margin. I though it was silly, but it was more or less sentimental. My European coworkers said they liked horse meat.

Alligator won't be OK in California because of this law. The rationale isn't about protecting American alligators, but that it's hard to tell the difference between the hides of of crocodilians, which include the critically endangered Chinese alligator.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=639-653.2

653o.
(b) (1) Commencing January 1, 2020, it shall be unlawful to import
into this state for commercial purposes, to possess with intent to
sell, or to sell within the state, the dead body, or any part or
product thereof, of a crocodile or alligator.
(2) This subdivision shall not be construed to authorize the
importation or sale of any alligator or crocodilian species, or any
products thereof, that are listed as endangered under the federal
Endangered Species Act, or to allow the importation or sale of any
alligator or crocodilian species, or any products thereof, in
violation of any federal law or international treaty to which the
United States is a party.​

Leave it to the Left Coast nut jobs...

(and I was raised in La-La Land, so I'm familiar with the nut jobs)

 

[Ndusmama]

I looked at their exotic meats section, and I couldn't find anything that would be generally illegal in the US. Buffalo (probably a bison hybrid), deer, elk, and ostrich are farmed. Wild boar is pretty legal. Camels are raised around the world for meat, and it's not illegal in the US.

One strange thing I recall from years ago was a hotel restaurant in Berkeley that served exotic meats, including lion. They weren't doing anything illegal, but they ended up with protesters on the sidewalk. Also, horse meat for human consumption isn't legal after a horse lover introduced a ballot proposition making it illegal that passed by a wide margin. I though it was silly, but it was more or less sentimental. My European coworkers said they liked horse meat.

Alligator won't be OK in California because of this law. The rationale isn't about protecting American alligators, but that it's hard to tell the difference between the hides of of crocodilians, which include the critically endangered Chinese alligator.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=639-653.2

653o.
(b) (1) Commencing January 1, 2020, it shall be unlawful to import
into this state for commercial purposes, to possess with intent to
sell, or to sell within the state, the dead body, or any part or
product thereof, of a crocodile or alligator.
(2) This subdivision shall not be construed to authorize the
importation or sale of any alligator or crocodilian species, or any
products thereof, that are listed as endangered under the federal
Endangered Species Act, or to allow the importation or sale of any
alligator or crocodilian species, or any products thereof, in
violation of any federal law or international treaty to which the
United States is a party.​

Well Californians do like to be different don't they. Thanks for the info.

 

[ryansstitch]

I think a lot of that depends on their parents' behavior.

If the parents go on and on about being terrified, the tragedy etc., then the kids will be the same way. Strong parents make strong kids...

Yes and no. Temperament is a major factor and parents have little control over that. Children also have environments outside their home that they engage in. Fear is complex

 

[aristocatz]

Alligators are back:
http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/07/updat...ligator-joining-cinderella-castle-stage-show/

 

[BrianL]

Alligators are back:
http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/07/updat...ligator-joining-cinderella-castle-stage-show/

Good. The temporary hysteria is coming to an end.

 

[CPanther95]

Alligators are back:
http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/07/updat...ligator-joining-cinderella-castle-stage-show/

Right on time with what I felt was an appropriate time period. 30 Days.