Disney - get control of these groups of teens that CHEER and YELL their way through the parks!

[Mom2Stitch]

We had our first experience a few weeks ago with large tour groups.

It wasn't the noise or clapping, but the rude Tour Guides who seemingly stopped in the path of others.

Must all 50 people move about together?

I'm reminded of someone standing at the bottom/top of an escalator and not merely blocking others, but creating a hazard….in a group of 50.

The Tour Guides should be ashamed with the way they stand at the Exit to events and not walking far enough along to prevent their group(s) from blocking others.

What I also found to be a bit rude was when 50 young adults thought that waiting for a Meet-n-Greet was OK. I dunno, maybe letting some little children not have to wait an hour just seems to be common courtesy. Then again, witnessing the way some adults act blocking little children at Parades and such - this should not surprise me.

Country of origin has nothing to do with rude behavior.

Guess that puts my family in the rude category-we wait for character Meet and Greets. If we've camped out an hour for a parade spot we're not giving it up children or not. IMO their family should have thought to stake out a spot. I take no issue at all if these young adults want to meet the characters-that's part of the fun and they have every right to participate in that.

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

Yeah, we've experienced this and it isn't a problem. Last thing I'd worry about on my vacation is a bunch of cheerleaders.

 

[scoobygrl79]

Guess that puts my family in the rude category-we wait for character Meet and Greets. If we've camped out an hour for a parade spot we're not giving it up children or not. IMO their family should have thought to stake out a spot. I take no issue at all if these young adults want to meet the characters-that's part of the fun and they have every right to participate in that.

I can relate to your perspective. When this subject/debate (always) comes up (the whole "put all the kids as the priority" thing), I'm so torn between understanding the parent's point of view yet knowing that adults deserve their right to: better viewing spots, equal time with characters, frontsies for attractions/shows, etc. One thing I remind myself that will usually nip my "children first" mentality in the bud is when I consider how many adults may have grown up without the chance to do all these things as a child. That really makes me feel bad for them, therefore I don't feel right viewing them as B-list for all things Disney.

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

This is the video I had seen before and I think I would have to exit the the que if I had been there. That is just too much. And I'm wondering if there were little children there who were scared of that.

Yeah, that's nothing more than Westside Story.

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

My feeling exactly.

Kids will be kids and many teens are going to be obnoxious. These loud locomotives of teens barreling down the streets of the theme parks are not acceptable.
It is up to the adult chaperones to have some semblance of control and for Disney to set the expectations a bit higher than "just turn around and head in another direction" or "it's not so bad unless you're in an enclosed space." Not good enough!

Those loud teens aren't any worse than the families that trample you trying to run to Toy Story Mania, or the people with strollers who constantly run over your feet and block passageways. This is a ridiculous thread with ridiculous complaints.

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

What I find interesting, is that they seem to have no concept that other people around them are not behaving this way. Does a light bulb not go off for them? Forget the language barrier, forget the cultural difference, they can CLEARLY see no one else is acting this way, therefore they are doing this out of disrespect to every other guest at DW. Its not just about us Americans, you don't see Japanese, Chinese, African, Irish, NO other nationality of people is doing this.

They KNOW what they are doing but they don't care.there is

Heres what you do.

You either speak with your dollars and stop visiting Disney, or you make sure to follow up with a lawsuit against Disney when you trip over the feet/bags of one of these groups sitting out in the street where they're not supposed to be. When Disney gets a doctor bill, they'll wake up and go "oh. hey. We might need to look at this."

I don't even know what you are talking about. I thought this thread was a silly complaint about cheerleaders from the U.S., but now you say there is some ethnic/national basis to it, and we have to sue Disney because people are tripping over bags. And this tripping is intentional, but the Irish don't trip people. I'm confused. And to be clear, the U.S. cheerleaders are the loudest, but it is Disney, with screaming, crying kids from every country, so the cheerleaders aren't really a problem.

 

[mrbghd]

To intentionally create in another a fear of injury, or disturb the common peace, or shove, push, hit, bump or 'walk through' another person - or to intentionally obstruct a common walkway/roadway necessary to the ingress or egress of others - or to intentionally incite or encourage those behaviors by others - is, in every legal jurisdiction in this country, either a tort or a crime. Or both. And one does not lose the protections of those laws proscribing assault and/or battery and the right to pursue compensation or prosecution - or both - for their transgressions at the entrance to WDW.

So, perhaps if (and probably, only if) enough of the juvenile offenders and the adult chaperones and/or tour and theme park corporate officers responsible for the presence of these groups in this country find themselves in Orange County civil and criminal courtrooms the behaviors will stop.

Note: I am not referring (above) to ordinary and incidental physical contact or inconvenience arising from to-be-anticipated crowding or excitement. I am referring to deliberate, patterned and planned aggression.

Sounds to me like you are describing moms and dad pushing strollers into my ankles or someone driving into me with their ecv.

 

[MaxsDad]

I didn't read through the seven pages of replies, but I think it has more to do with a poorly chaperoned group of teenage kids than the cultural aspect. While I am sure that plays some part, I have seen similar behavior from the Pop Warner kids when they are there.
It really comes down to needing better supervision of large groups of teenage kids, no matter where they are from IMO.

 

[Megsmachine]

They are annoying. We used to just turn around, go the other way, and re route. Big deal right? Then one time at DHS we went in to INdy just as it was about to start. It was packed. A cm escorted us to a section right near the top for my family of 5. One of the leaders from a Brazilian tour was following close behind us and as we arrived at the aisle seats shoved passed us knocking over my 7 year old on the hard steps. He was bleeding from his mouth, hands and knees. As we were picking him up and checking to see if he was alright, the leader ushered in a bunch of girls in her group....and they were laughing at us. And as we were walking away they were laughing and waving at us. Including the leader. The CM apologized profusely and of course DH and I were furious. She said there was nothing she could do about it. You better believe I complained. Loud. Profusely and you know what we got? 2 day passes for all the people in our family that can be used in the next 20 years. Sounds good right? No, I would rather know they dealt with them. They didn't. As much as I would like to think Disney cares about us, if it effects their bottom line, they don't.

 

[Bellamouse]

Who knew American society was so introverted in comparison to others?

It's not just Americans. Most Europeans are very reserved and subdued as well (unless they're drunk ) and mostly frown on loud, obnoxious behavior. We didn't get the name "ugly American" over in Europe for nothing. Also most Asian cultures are reserved as well.

 

[Dug720]

Got it. I haven't ever encountered the tour groups in Disney. However, I have encountered them here in the city en masse. The have shirts that indicate they plan on going to Disney. LOL But I haven't noticed any cheering.

I think they have learned not to chant in NYC. When I first noticed them several years ago after having the "pleasure" at WDW, I did hear chanting, then saw the triangle flag and RAN the other way. But now I just tend to see the flag and not hear chanting. Whether I just encountered them in a moment of silence or whether they figured out the hard way that the chanting made them targets for those with ill intentions I don't know. But I've fortunately only encountered one CHANTING group in NYC. I've encountered more than a few with superiority complexes (trust me...you don't want to work retail and deal with them because they treat you like third or lower class citizens of earth - THAT I have encountered first hand...I have two masters degrees, but in their culture people who work in food service or retail are automatically less than), but that's about it.

 

[Dug720]

Just to add in my experience with them at WDW... We were there as a family I think over Predisents' Week, and my first encounter with them was after Illuminations. I heard chanting/cheering walking towards the exit and said something like "There's a cheerleading thing this week?" to which my CM sister said "No. Probably a Brazilian tour group. Maybe Argentinian, but probably Brazilian." The next day my dad and I were heading towards ToT (sis was working), and encountered a HUGE pile of pink backpacks totally abandoned right in front of the ToT sign. Several of us on seeing them joked that we should just make off with them and pay for our vacation that way. But we all just lined up anyway, moving the line around them. Only then did a DHS CM come by and ask about them. We were all like "They were here when we got here" and the CM was looking around frantically (this was before Boston even). Finally a "chaperone" came over from WAY on the other side of the walkway and said they belonged to his group. The CM said they had to be moved and could not be left unattended. The "chaperone" did move them - just in time to encounter the girls all rushing him for their FastPasses for ToT (this was before FP+) and then practically trampling the poor CM collecting the FPs. We all just hung back because NONE of us wanted to deal with them on the attraction.

That whole encounter definitely did NOT reflect well on their country - in fact, it made me pretty much squelch any thoughts of ever visiting it because of the level of obnoxious I encountered.

 

[Glenn]

Please dont put up with this in silence. I dont care what is acceptable in other counties it is not acceptable here. Some places its just fine for kid to take a leak in the bushes dont think many would think so here.
Compain to disney. Write an actual letter to Disney outlining acttions that you dont like. Loud chanting in parks, pushing, shoving, line cutting. Dont talk in general talk with time , day and place where all of this happened. Will Disney do much unless it costs them money they probably wont but writing will at least help you cool down.
Injurys. If your hurt on purpose, break a bone, or other bigger injuries because your shoved aside by groups first complain to Disney then call the police. Assalt and Battery is against the law. If it was done on purpose sent them to jail. A pain in the but yes but if I or mine ended up in the hosptial Im going to makee someone pay for it.

 

[Mambo Junkie]

These groups are the primary reason that we avoid certain resorts during our January trips. We really don't mind them unless we get caught in a queue with them. When we see them, we go the other way. When there are too may groups to avoid, we hop to another park.

That's what we do. If ever we come across people from wherever with the same t shirts or backpacks, we just go somewhere else.

 

[Grandma G]

Sounds to me like you are describing moms and dad pushing strollers into my ankles or someone driving into me with their ecv.

As I said earlier ...

I am not referring ... to ordinary and incidental physical contact or inconvenience arising from to-be-anticipated crowding or excitement. I am referring to deliberate, patterned and planned aggression.

So if that mom or dad ... or someone ... is acting with an intent to strike you, then you are quite right, that is precisely the sort or behavior I am describing. The young, whole and/or childless don't have a monopoly on delinquency. ETA: However, neither are youth, vigor and/or absence of parental responsibility valid excuses for it.

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[DoingDisney]

What I also found to be a bit rude was when 50 young adults thought that waiting for a Meet-n-Greet was OK. I dunno, maybe letting some little children not have to wait an hour just seems to be common courtesy. Then again, witnessing the way some adults act blocking little children at Parades and such - this should not surprise me.
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I have seen this come up in a few variations, and I will say this, I disagree.

I don't care what age someone is, if they have paid for park entrance, they have just as much claim to meet and greet someone as a little child. People of all ages can and do enjoy these things, and if you are paying you should have equal access.

That being said ... if they are lining up as a group of 50 and half of them don't even care about the meet and greet and are just making others wait because they can, well maybe that's a bit of a different story.

But I have seen several posts about how "adults" shouldn't make "children" wait for meet and greets (or specific rides, events, parades, shows, etc). Just don't buy it at all.

 

[smidgy]

before I even read a single post on this thread, I KNOW what it is about. yes the tour groups from a particular country in south america. I was there once in July never again.. yea, I can tell the difference between spanish and portuesgues, and yes these groups are KNOW to be rude, and cut in line and chant an dblock walkways.
yes, I have had personal experience twith this. both at the parks and at the resort where we were staying. we were FURIOUS with disney management for allowing this behaviour. when complaining.. (the screaming and lud chanting at the resort and on the buses, the way they blocked us on the walkways at the resort. throes our belongings off our loungers at the pool and took them when we went to the DSA. the "chaperones" who wanted to fight with my husband because he was smoking in the DSA.
the soccer balls banging against our window at 1 AM.. when we complained that we don't mind if the kids swim late at night, but the music balls against the windo, chanting, wtc had to stop.. we were TOLD.. in NO uncertain terms by a management Cm on a Segway " "July is Latin month at WDW and they are our guests"
no kidding, that's what he said! what am I? he tried to tell me that I should play HOST to them! nope! I am also a guest.
it was their last night and when management finally shut down the home run pool and heard "adults" complaing to the security guard and I actually heard the guard tell them "well, I can see both sides of the issue" huh? BOTH sides? kids screaming, yelling , chanting kicking balls against the room windows at 1 AM?
disney puts up with this because these groups pay BIG money.. and it is unfair to everyone else. we all have to obey the rules? why not these groups?

most of the do not actually have adult surpervision. or chaperones. the habve "tour guides" barely older that they are, who are paid big bucks by parents to enusre their teens have FUN!! at all costs.!

 

[HopperFan]

Please dont put up with this in silence. I dont care what is acceptable in other counties it is not acceptable here. Some places its just fine for kid to take a leak in the bushes dont think many would think so here.
Compain to disney. Write an actual letter to Disney outlining acttions that you dont like. Loud chanting in parks, pushing, shoving, line cutting. Dont talk in general talk with time , day and place where all of this happened. Will Disney do much unless it costs them money they probably wont but writing will at least help you cool down.
Injurys. If your hurt on purpose, break a bone, or other bigger injuries because your shoved aside by groups first complain to Disney then call the police. Assalt and Battery is against the law. If it was done on purpose sent them to jail. A pain in the but yes but if I or mine ended up in the hosptial Im going to makee someone pay for it.

You are absolutely correct.

My DD worked there the last year and what she was told is that you have to write a letter to Disney including the name of the Tour Group. It's easy to do as they all wear shirts/backpacks. Take a quick photo for reference later. The more complaints against the group the better then they will not be permitted to come back. Many were banned last year. Now the kids will just move to another group but the more this happens the more likely a new tour group will work harder to maintain control to avoid being banned. She also said (and it's obvious) that the groups led by young men are the worse as the young men instigate much of the behavior. In your letter complain about their chaperones as well and their behaviors. The groups with the older ladies tend to try to keep control. DD had many conversations with them and even they complained about the groups being led by young men.

After two NIGHTMARE years with them at POP I cancelled this year's January onsite trip and told Disney why. I mean why pay Disney prices if I can't use the food court, can't use the pool and can't get on the buses let alone get to sleep. One year at day 5 of horrible behavior until 2 am including banging on my door and windows, and after having to go direct to the kids rooms and call security a number of times I found a "chaperone". Finding them at a hotel is a miracle in itself and I'm sure they are off at DTD or locked in their rooms letting the nonsense happen. I told them if the behavior continued tonight I wasn't bothering with Disney anymore, I would be calling the police department to come out to the hotel because it was an unsafe situation. Guess what, all was quiet by 10 pm.

These kids know what they are doing, and if they see you are bothered they amp it up. They destroy the hotel rooms from mattresses up against walls, no carpet showing for the trashing and yes even a food out all over including the best one, a pizza laying on a bed sheets - with no box. Poor guests that come in behind them and gosh Housekeeping should get combat pay. I left extra every day because I felt so bad for them.

They absolutely speak some and understand English enough to know what you are saying. Some are very fluent as they are from affluent families. I've had some interactions and DD surely had enough of them this year. I still went in January for a long weekend but stayed offsite. My long winter trip was moved to last week of Feb/first week of March because by then they are back in school. Delaying my trip made it a completely different experience. In January, February and July I would only stay offsite - if I go.

 

[smidgy]

The tour groups generate a lot of revenue and therefore will never go away or face any sanctions.

Edit: In any event, I'm sure we can discuss annoying people we've encountered without identifying them by race as though that has something to do with their behavior.

I can distinguish betwenn spansih and portuguese. we all know it is groups from Brazil jsut facts. not a race, a nationlity.

I've experienced it. It really didn't bother me.

well, bless your heart. it annoyed the you know what out of our family... I love teens.. when our sons were teens I swear every teen in our small town hung around our basement. I don't pay big bucks to have disney let them get away with whatever they want to stomp all over me.

 

[smidgy]

try to enjoy haunted mansion when they are all SCREAMING th entire time and you can't even hear the audio. (and my husband depends on the audio, as he can barely see anymore)/ or on tower of terror. or you cant hear the music during wishes cause they are all chanting.. you con't want to be at all near the resort they are at! beleive me!!!!!!!!!!! awful horrible rude. mean. cut in line. push you out of the way. sigh... and disney doesn't care..