Disney Genie announcement

[SCDisneyfanatic]

Okay, I think the combination of responses answered most of my questions. Just one more...since I have already purchased our tickets through Shades of Green, do I have an option to just add the $15 per person on those tickets in order to access G+? I assume that's the process. And since we are at SOG we are considered On-Site so the 0700 works for us.

 

[DJFan88]

The release said you could purchase 1 or 2, but I couldn't find information on how many would be in each park

I see how we could each read that differently. I listen to many podcasts, some who have people who speak to Disney people, so this is how it has been presented to me. So I guess what you say could be true. I just read it as there will be up to 2, and you read it as you get up to selections for the extra purchase. So your way of reading could be right as well

 

[DJFan88]

I'm interpreting it differently. This is a quote from the link you posted:

• 'Individual attraction selections (available for purchase): Schedule a time to arrive at up to two highly demanded attractions each day using the Lightning Lane entrance – like Seven Dwarfs Mine Train at Magic Kingdom Park and Radiator Springs Racers at Disney California Adventure park (subject to limited availability; attractions not included with Disney Genie+). Pricing for this option will vary by date, attraction and park and will be announced closer to launch.

Lightning Lane selections will be made on the same day of your visit and can be used across multiple theme parks, great for those who love the Park Hopper option.'

Personally, I think guests will be limited to 2 IA$ purchases per day. They can both be purchased for the same park or for different parks but a limit of 2 per guest will be in place regardless.

That's just my interpretation though.

I think we actually agree. On park hoppers I can still only purchase 2 special passes per day.
the debated question was how many rides in each park would be available for the special purchase. I read it as only 2 per park. And all the rest are available only through the $15 option. But it was pointed out to me that it could be read that you can only buy 2 and was not actually giving any reference to how many rides per park would be available to purchase.

 

[GrumpyFamilyof5]

If I'm reading correctly, you can use Genie+ for a different park then the one you have a reservation for?? Example: I have a park ressie for MK that day, but want to hop over to AK at 2, I can make the pass for AK for that evening. ?? Correct?

 

[scrappinginontario]

I think we actually agree. On park hoppers I can still only purchase 2 special passes per day.
the debated question was how many rides in each park would be available for the special purchase. I read it as only 2 per park. And all the rest are available only through the $15 option. But it was pointed out to me that it could be read that you can only buy 2 and was not actually giving any reference to how many rides per park would be available to purchase.

Yes, that is one of the many, many unknowns. We both agree that we will only be able to purchase 2/day but, how many are available at each park is still not confirmed. Will DHS have just RotR plus one other or, will it be RotR + SDD + RnRC + ToT + ....... That part is still unclear.

 

[DJFan88]

Okay, I think the combination of responses answered most of my questions. Just one more...since I have already purchased our tickets through Shades of Green, do I have an option to just add the $15 per person on those tickets in order to access G+? I assume that's the process. And since we are at SOG we are considered On-Site so the 0700 works for us.

The way I understand it is if you add it to length of stay passes you can add it ahead of time but have to add it to every day.
However you can also choose to add it just each day you want it to save money, but you can’t do that until day of. I have heard that they can be done anytime after midnight but am unclear on that. Then you are ready at 7am.
The only risk in that I suppose is if it’s super popular and demand exceeds supply.

 

[DJFan88]

Yes, that is one of the many, many unknowns. We both agree that we will only be able to purchase 2/day but, how many are available at each park is still not confirmed. Will DHS have just RotR plus one other or, will it be RotR + SDD + RnRC + ToT + ....... That part is still unclear.

Yes, they really only specifically mention the fate of about 4 rides in that. I do think DHS will be a good place for + though, maybe less at MK. They’ll have to make enough available if they want people to buy it. Sounds like we’ll find out soon

 

[mdmost]

If I'm reading correctly, you can use Genie+ for a different park then the one you have a reservation for?? Example: I have a park ressie for MK that day, but want to hop over to AK at 2, I can make the pass for AK for that evening. ?? Correct?

That was the case with Maxpass in Disneyland. We park hopped starting at Disneyland and then made a late night Guardians Maxpass later in the day at California Adventure. I would imagine the 2pm park hopper rule would apply to Genie+. You won't have access to other parks until after 2pm, I'd imagine since you couldn't tap in to that park to fulfill the FP until 2pm. The pay one would probably also fall this way.

 

[shawthorne44]

One thing that just registered in my brain. I see/known it earlier but it didn't filter in. The $15 for G+ is the Introductory Price.
Oh course they can change the price of anything at any time.

For me, I think $15 is the sweet spot. More than that and I'll be gnashing my teeth and maybe not get it. Less than that and too many people that go often will still get it.

 

[scrappinginontario]

I agree. On page of 2 of this thread I used the very same language of ‘sweet spot’ for us at $15 for the very reasons you mentioned!

 

[Grumpy by Birth]

Iin their release they stated up to 2 rides per park.
Here is the release link with lots of info:
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2021/08/introducing-disney-genie/

The release said you could purchase 1 or 2, but I couldn't find information on how many would be in each park

As others have indicated, I too read the information as saying that guests can schedule (i.e. pay for) up to two IA$ attractions per day, but that doesn't mean the park will be limited to only two attractions requiring IA$ to use the LL. If there are more than two IA$ attractions in a park, you would be able to purchase IA$ to use the LL for two of them and have to wait in standby for the others (since they would not be included in G+ for the $15).

That's another variable that will go into whether G+ is worth $15. If it only gets you access to 50% of the rides using LL and you have to pay extra or wait in SB for even the "better" rides (and not just the "best"), it could dilute the value significantly.

 

[wisblue]

One of my questions about IAS that may have been answered, or might still be one of the many things that are still unknown, is whether you can purchase an IAS spot at a second park before you have actually arrived in the park.

For example, if I have a reservation at MK would I be able to purchase a time for Ratatouille (with an evening arrival) early in the day and then use it later when I hop to that park. That ability to reserve a popular attraction for later might be worth the $15-$20 to me, especially at Epcot where we might never make a reservation due to its later opening and fewer rides that we really care about.

I have a similar question about Genie+. If we have hopper tickets, will we be able to use Genie+ to get a spot at an attraction at a second park once we are done using it at our reservation park, but before we actually enter that second park?

 

[VAlegacy]

I agree. On page of 2 of this thread I used the very same language of ‘sweet spot’ for us at $15 for the very reasons you mentioned!

Only Disney could figure out a way to make people feel happy about spending more $.
No free wristbands, but a better experience with personalized paid ones!
No free parking, but better parking experiences now for $20/day.
No free DME, but thank you Uber for enhancing guest travel to and from the airport.
No more Extra Magic Hours, but think of all you can accomplish in 30 minutes each morning!

No free FP, but thats only because it was free. It will be better now that we charge!

 

[scrappinginontario]

Only Disney could figure out a way to make people feel happy about spending more $.
No free wristbands, but a better experience with personalized paid ones!
No free parking, but better parking experiences now for $20/day.
No free DME, but thank you Uber for enhancing guest travel to and from the airport.
No more Extra Magic Hours, but think of all you can accomplish in 30 minutes each morning!

No free FP, but thats only because it was free. It will be better now that we charge!

Please don't put words in my mouth. I did not was 'happy' to spend this money. I just said they chose a dollar amount I would consider spending. Those are two very different things.

 

[shawthorne44]

Only Disney could figure out a way to make people feel happy about spending more $.
No free wristbands, but a better experience with personalized paid ones!
No free parking, but better parking experiences now for $20/day.
No free DME, but thank you Uber for enhancing guest travel to and from the airport.
No more Extra Magic Hours, but think of all you can accomplish in 30 minutes each morning!

No free FP, but thats only because it was free. It will be better now that we charge!

I think you meant to quote me. I am peeved about every single last change that Disney has made lately. Exceptions are G+ and possibly the early morning time being at all four parks even though it is half the time.

Magic Bands - yeah that bites.
DME - We drive, but my bf raved about it and is considering offsite next time.
Evening hours for Deluxe only - that was bad. Then they said places like the swolphin get it?!? That made it worse.
No free resort parking - Well, I never experienced it free. But that means staying offsite at someplace that doesn't charge for parking and maybe even includes hot breakfasts looks tempting. Since with Disney you either pay at the resort or the park.
Speaking of parking- why aren't the trams back?
Every other recent change? Assume I'm annoyed by it.

I am mildly hopeful on the early entry. It has to be better for us, since we were going to avoid using the early hour because of the excessive crowding. So, for us it means an extra half hour in the morning and there not being a park to avoid every day. In fact, this is why on-site is one of our reservations. I'll have time to cancel if it isn't worthwhile.

I think we'll really like G+. I'd been hoping for a MaxPass-ish to be the choice, and if were a straight copy of MaxPass we'd have paid for the cell phone option anyway. I can see how the FPP worked for people who had AP's. With an AP you have the luxury of getting on the ride next time. So, the tiers on FPP weren't a problem. I've seen the touring plan data on when FPP's are gone for the day. The reports of 4 FPP+ to FOP in one day seems rare. But, for us, we'll be doing the one-big-trip. I like that there is a charge for G+ precisely because it means not everyone will have it. That means more availability for us. Also if it were free, it would just be standby with a cell phone complication. I won't be buying the IA$$$, but I understand why some rides can't be included in G+. If they did, then that is what people would buy G+ for and then not everyone would get on it.

Our plan will be to arrive for early entry go straight to one of the IA$$$ rides, getting a G+ reservation for the most G+ desirable ride. Leaving lunch-ish for a break getting ride reservations for later in the day at another park. Eat offsite, rest, come back from the break closing out that park and getting in a IA$$$ standby line just before close.

 

[DisneyFive]

I think the headliners will be available all throughout the day just like with FP+, not just mornings or early afternoons. Guests are always changing plans throughout the day and that includes dropping popular attractions in favor of less popular, and vice versa. With a little persistence I fully expect to scoop up good attractions that others just dropped. My big question, like others have asked, is how soon can you book another after you’ve made a G+ reservation.

I could be wrong too. We’ll see

Dan

 

[Kbrb]

For a system rumored to be launching soon they are going to have to bite the bullet and announce the LL pricing. Clearly they are going to get a ton of bad PR for it like the genie. But id suggest they would be better taking that now than distracting from the 50th.

 

[luv2cheer92]

For a system rumored to be launching soon they are going to have to bite the bullet and announce the LL pricing. Clearly they are going to get a ton of bad PR for it like the genie. But id suggest they would be better taking that now than distracting from the 50th.

Sources that are typically in the know with these things have said the range will be $4-24. (Assuming you mean IAS, not LL)

 

[itf]

Maybe it's because the UK exchange rate is poor at the moment, but that $24 figure is pretty outrageous for a family of 4 for what amounts to barely ten minutes of entertainment, especially having already paid for the privilege of being in the park. Not just bad value, but actively rinsing your customers.

 

[Eastern]

I really don't think it will be this intuitive. We need to remember that Disney wants us to purchase this. If they start rationing the rides it offers, people will be less likely to purchase it which is not what they want.

I think they want to control ride/park usage and making extra money is a side benefit.