Disney Designer Dolls

[BigGreen73]

But that is not that hard to fix if they have orders for 10 dolls they simply can send them a email saying the total amount is 2 and that is all they are getting and take those and fill other orders.

Maybe the announcement they are going to make is they are going to do a re-do on Snow White. All online orders will be canceled and SW will be put back on the website Monday morning and we all start over...

 

[ReggieB]

I have been enjoying this forum for years but never actually posted until now. I am a long time doll collector and I know that no doll that is issued in the thousands is rare. I have a basement full of NRFB (Never Removed From Box)worthless Barbies to prove it. The secondary market reacts irrationally and emotionally immediately after a sell-out. It will stabilize and there will be an enormous amount of these dolls for sale at lower prices. Especially after the holidays. Even true collectors turn over their collections for various reasons, they like to purchase the next new thing, space or financial issues. The non-collectors will lower their prices because they don't want to be stuck with them. So be patient. Especially if Disney issues a new version, which I think they will because this has been so successful for sales, we will see a steep drop on Ebay. I am surprised in this economy people can spare $600 retail for a set of dolls, but 3 times that is amazing.People may think that a doll purchased now for $300 will continue appreciate in value in years to come, that is not likely to happen. There are too many out there and most people will not debox them so there are going to be plenty of these for sale in the future. But the market has to calm down first. I think it will still be a frenzy no matter what Disney does at this point because a lot of people still will make money on the resale for a while. We see it is already starting to drop on Ebay but it has a ways to go.

I totally agree with this. I have already seen a price decrease in some of the dolls being offered on Ebay. I know it will be hard to wait, but I will catch up with any of the dolls that I missed, but at a price that reflects their true value. I use Ebay a lot for vintage toys and newer toys. I have found that a little research and sticking to your guns on price, you will ultimately get what you want at the price that is more accurate.

 

[ReggieB]

Maybe the announcement they are going to make is they are going to do a re-do on Snow White. All online orders will be canceled and SW will be put back on the website Monday morning and we all start over...

That would be an interesting development!! Nice for us that have missed out on Snow White.

However I'm feeling that their tech department are not going to be coming up with a solution to site crash in such a short period of time. If this is an ongoing issue at the site, I think they need a totally new stock control program. Any responsible merchant is not going to throw one out there in a few days, not without a lot of testing. It'll end up by being even worse than what they have in place.

It is pretty poor that this has been going on for awhile (someone mentioned Vinylmations)

 

[gilliansmommy]

I really hope they don't stop selling in stores. That is how I have been able to get Mulan and Snow White. My order from online was one of the cancelled ones. I don't mind driving the 1.5 hour drive to the nearest store and waiting a few hours. Please don't take them from the stores.

 

[LovinmyDisneylife]

Maybe the announcement they are going to make is they are going to do a re-do on Snow White. All online orders will be canceled and SW will be put back on the website Monday morning and we all start over...

I don't think that will be an option since some individuals that purchased expedited shipping are reporting that their Snow White's have already been shipped.

 

[Alice28]

Maybe the announcement they are going to make is they are going to do a re-do on Snow White. All online orders will be canceled and SW will be put back on the website Monday morning and we all start over...

I sure hope not! I was able to get 2- one for me, one for my Mom. We've collected all of them so far, this was the first I ordered online.

I just followed the link posted here; my credit card has been charged, and my status is still 'active' on TDS order history; just haven't rec'd shipment notice yet. I don't feel like I cheated, nor did I cheat anyone out of a doll because I'm reselling.

I too wonder what the change will be. Interested to see; of the 5 that are remaining, I REALLY want Jasmine, Poca & Rapunzel. However, I too am keeping perspective on this whole thing. It's just a 'thing'. I won't die if it doesn't happen.

 

[princessaholic]

That person is kind of asking for trouble by bragging about that online... There are a great many disgruntled people out there because of this issue.

my thoughts exactly...you will also hear about some mall employees are bringing in their friends or family so they can grab them all up...you hear horror stories where people stood in line waiting outside for hours waiting for the mall to open only to find out there were 10 or more people already waiting inside...

 

[Shivatopia]

I have been enjoying this forum for years but never actually posted until now. I am a long time doll collector and I know that no doll that is issued in the thousands is rare. I have a basement full of NRFB (Never Removed From Box)worthless Barbies to prove it. The secondary market reacts irrationally and emotionally immediately after a sell-out. It will stabilize and there will be an enormous amount of these dolls for sale at lower prices. Especially after the holidays. Even true collectors turn over their collections for various reasons, they like to purchase the next new thing, space or financial issues. The non-collectors will lower their prices because they don't want to be stuck with them. So be patient. Especially if Disney issues a new version, which I think they will because this has been so successful for sales, we will see a steep drop on Ebay. I am surprised in this economy people can spare $600 retail for a set of dolls, but 3 times that is amazing.People may think that a doll purchased now for $300 will continue appreciate in value in years to come, that is not likely to happen. There are too many out there and most people will not debox them so there are going to be plenty of these for sale in the future. But the market has to calm down first. I think it will still be a frenzy no matter what Disney does at this point because a lot of people still will make money on the resale for a while. We see it is already starting to drop on Ebay but it has a ways to go.

I also collect dolls, and it is indeed a very rare thing for a doll to maintain or even increase it's value over time. One exception I can think of off the top of my head is the Medusa Barbie that was released in 2008. I think she was a limited edition of 6000 or so, and she retailed for $100. On eBay today, years later, she still sells for $450-$700 easily, sometimes more. Of course, she is the exception and not the rule. As lovely as these Designer Dolls are, I also don't see most of them keeping a high value on the secondary market. I think that of the 10, Ariel and Rapunzel may stay ahead of the others.

 

[PatMcDuck]

I thought most of the problems were online, but we had guests in the store complaining today about Monday's situation at my store.


The guest that was in today, says that she was 5th in line Monday. Then, at about 8:30 am, the 4 women in front of her each had a "friend" join them online. With this development she was out of the running for a SW doll, this group got them all. The CMs come out at 9 to hand out the cards, so this all happened before 9am.

We all feel so bad this happened. I said we may have to have security at the mall help out (doubtful they would help) , or have a CM come in earlier. (with our tight payroll they will not want to do that, and it would have to be a manager).

Can't believe how out of control this is....

 

[Falltime]

That would be an interesting development!! Nice for us that have missed out on Snow White.

However I'm feeling that their tech department are not going to be coming up with a solution to site crash in such a short period of time. If this is an ongoing issue at the site, I think they need a totally new stock control program. Any responsible merchant is not going to throw one out there in a few days, not without a lot of testing. It'll end up by being even worse than what they have in place.

It is pretty poor that this has been going on for awhile (someone mentioned Vinylmations)

Yes it has been going on for a long time and even before vinylmations. I buy pins on Monday mornings since 2005 and the problem has been around since then so it's been that way for 6 years at least.

My guess is that they are going to change the online policy to 2 per person or household instead of the current policy which was 2 per order.

 

[Hannahlovesdisney]

I have to say if you are not a collector and are treating these dolls as toys...please do not buy them. These are collector items and should not be played with.

 

[Turk February]

I have to say if you are not a collector and are treating these dolls as toys...please do not buy them. These are collector items and should not be played with.

And I have to say that you have no right to tell other people what to do with their dolls, or anything they buy for that matter. If someone wants to buy it for their child to open up and play with, that's their choice.

You handle your purchases the way you want, and others will do the same. What others choose to do with their belongings is none of your concern.

Relax.

 

[heart goes boOm]

i think the problem with these dolls is that they release one every monday which makes people too angry and anxious because it's not like the idea is not foreign... it's a limited edition doll, of course most people can't buy it and it will end up in ebay for a ridiculous amount, and i see disney lists 2 per order for a lot of their limited edition stuff. i just wish they won't delay the release.

 

[heart goes boOm]

And I have to say that you have no right to tell other people what to do with their dolls, or anything they buy for that matter. If someone wants to buy it for their child to open up and play with, that's their choice.

You handle your purchases the way you want, and others will do the same. What others choose to do with their belongings is none of your concern.

Relax.

i'm not a child and if i got rapunzel, i would be tempted to open her up to recreate her braid from the movie!

 

[DizneyDogs]

I have to say if you are not a collector and are treating these dolls as toys...please do not buy them. These are collector items and should not be played with.

If you are a collector then you should be happy that people are opening up and playing with them that will just make less of them that are MIB

as I saw someone else post, how do you think Woody vs. Stinky Pete would feel about that comment?

 

[DizneyDogs]

If anybody wanted the Snow White Designer Doll Compact it's now available online

http://www.disneystore.com/disney-p...compact-snow-white-mirror/mp/1290848/1006104/

Appears to be now SOLD OUT

 

[GraceMonica]

If anybody wanted the Snow White Designer Doll Compact it's now available online

http://www.disneystore.com/disney-p...compact-snow-white-mirror/mp/1290848/1006104/

OH NO THEY DIDN'T. GJKDSFJkdsjf WHY?! They're trying to take all my munnies! UGH UGH UGH! I wonder if this means the stores are getting different merch in? Anyone know? HMM. To buy or not to buy. That is the question.

 

[Shivatopia]

And to think that on eBay some sellers are trying to sell this for about $100. I guess sometimes patience is a virtue with the non-numbered items from this collection. Look at the mugs. Disney is quite capable of producing more of the non-numbered items for re-release, not that they promise anything. Sadly, there is at least one auction on eBay listed from before the Compact Mirror magically reappearing online again that is tracking at a $127.50 auction bid. The mirror costs $14.50, for goodness sake!

I still think that if Disney did not advertise the edition sizes of the dolls so openly that things would not have become as crazy as they have in trying to get them. If Disney had just said: "available for a limited time only" instead, which suggests the LE nature, but not that there were only x-number of dolls made, I don't think as many scalpers would have descended on the dolls the way they have.

 

[heart goes boOm]

And to think that on eBay some sellers are trying to sell this for about $100. I guess sometimes patience is a virtue with the non-numbered items from this collection. Look at the mugs. Disney is quite capable of producing more of the non-numbered items for re-release, not that they promise anything. Sadly, there is at least one auction on eBay listed from before the Compact Mirror magically reappearing online again that is tracking at a $127.50 auction bid. The mirror costs $14.50, for goodness sake!

I still think that if Disney did not advertise the edition sizes of the dolls so openly that things would not have become as crazy as they have in trying to get them. If Disney had just said: "available for a limited time only" instead, which suggests the LE nature, but not that there were only x-number of dolls made, I don't think as many scalpers would have descended on the dolls the way they have.

i thought they always advertised the edition size. i really think it's the fact that it's released one by one... eventually, people took notice and decided to beat some collectors to post it on ebay/craiglist/etc for a ridiculous amount of money. for some le pieces, once people found out about them and it's all sold out, that's it - they can't get more. but with this collection, after people found out, they can get the next doll! i wondered why ariel is so expensive in ebay. maybe coz she came out earlier and most people who bought her intend to keep her. i bought her because she is my favorite princess and it actually took my 4 days to decide if i wanted to buy her.

 

[Shivatopia]

i thought they always advertised the edition size. i really think it's the fact that it's released one by one... eventually, people took notice and decided to beat some collectors to post it on ebay/craiglist/etc for a ridiculous amount of money. for some le pieces, once people found out about them and it's all sold out, that's it - they can't get more. but with this collection, after people found out, they can get the next doll! i wondered why ariel is so expensive in ebay. maybe coz she came out earlier and most people who bought her intend to keep her. i bought her because she is my favorite princess and it actually took my 4 days to decide if i wanted to buy her.

Typically Disey does list the edition sizes of their LE items (esp the pins). Your point that a lot of this could have been avoided just as easily if the dolls were all released at once is also incredibly valid. Certainly, everyone would have had a better chance to get their favorite princess, because very few people would have shelled out $600 all at once (I would have, but I'm crazy like that). Also, there would have been major princess overload, so scalpers would have had to try to guess which ones to go after to make the biggest profit. However, given their weekly distribution, I just feel that if Disney had, for once, been a little ambiguous about the dolls' LE size, maybe that would have helped reduce the frenzy in the scalper hoarding and underhanded methods some people have employed.

On that note, I really don't get the release-one-princess-per-week thing anyway. It's not like Disney did anything special for any of the princesses released so far. On the day of her doll release, there were no special items released of the featured princess of the week. There were no special meet-and-greets at the retail stores. Nothing! Just the doll... and a bunch of madness. It's like a marketing idea that was really thought through only half-way. I have no training in retail marketing, but I think I could have come up with better ideas than what has been put forth so far.