Disney’s Lakeshore Lodge Coming to former Reflections Site in 2027!

[Girlstar30]

Thanks guys, now its goin to annoy me when I look at PIT, I never noticed this stuff before

 

[Beachmom0317]

We were in WDW last week and on the monorail I took a peak and just can't believe the scale of it! I am a CCV owner, will it be easier to book CCV once it opens if people are jumping ship to stay at the new hotel at 7mo?! Had me wondering what a new DVC hotel will do to those of us who enjoy staying at our home resorts but sometimes have trouble even at the 11 month window. Has PIT (omg The Poliday made me laugh- I love PIT but that IS funny IMO) impacted resort availability do you think? I am open to trying LSL but not if it has PIT point charts!

 

[Steelers0854]

We were in WDW last week and on the monorail I took a peak and just can't believe the scale of it! I am a CCV owner, will it be easier to book CCV once it opens if people are jumping ship to stay at the new hotel at 7mo?! Had me wondering what a new DVC hotel will do to those of us who enjoy staying at our home resorts but sometimes have trouble even at the 11 month window. Has PIT (omg The Poliday made me laugh- I love PIT but that IS funny IMO) impacted resort availability do you think? I am open to trying LSL but not if it has PIT point charts!

It may have less of an impact than you think. remember LSL will be resale restricted so only those with direct points will be able to book there that don’t own there.

 

[Brian Noble]

The fun thing is the ugliest tower Disney has ever built, BLT, doesn’t even get close to the hate this unfinished building gets (same with PIT while being built)

I remember the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the fact that the GFV building exterior was not as detailed as the rest of the Grand's existing buildings. It has been years since I've seen anyone bring that up, but it was all anyone could talk about during and shortly after construction.

I suspect that PIT will follow suit in a few years, just as RIV is already on that path.

never noticed this stuff before

...and you never will again, unless you go looking for it.

 

[CarolynFH]

will it be easier to book CCV once it opens if people are jumping ship to stay at the new hotel at 7mo?!

It might, for the first year or two when everyone wants to try it. Then LSL will become just another DVC resort, with people looking forward to the next new thing.

 

[Chuck96]

Do you want them to have that or not want it?

I want the statue

 

[PolyRob]

I remember the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the fact that the GFV building exterior was not as detailed as the rest of the Grand's existing buildings. It has been years since I've seen anyone bring that up, but it was all anyone could talk about during and shortly after construction.

I suspect that PIT will follow suit in a few years, just as RIV is already on that path.


...and you never will again, unless you go looking for it.

The darker VGF roof bothered me until Disney reshingled the entire resort, but I am crazy like that

 

[ClaraOswald]

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Wait...those interior photos...is one a Holiday Inn? Because if so, it looks like a really nice Holiday Inn. Much nicer than the ones I've stayed at!

 

[PolyRob]

Wait...those interior photos...is one a Holiday Inn? Because if so, it looks like a really nice Holiday Inn. Much nicer than the ones I've stayed at!

Yes, this was in the top 10 Google image search for "Holiday Inn Lobby"



Frighteningly similar with the slatted ceiling details and blue furniture/carpeting.

 

[PolyRob]

@ClaraOswald I love the new profile pic! Such a good movie and very relevant for Thanksgiving

 

[Girlstar30]

@ClaraOswald I love the new profile pic! Such a good movie and very relevant for Thanksgiving

Which movie is it?

 

[PolyRob]

Which movie is it?

Adams Family Values (1993)

 

[Brian Noble]

According to Google Image search, it is in Belfast. There appears to be a similar one in Clermont-Ferrand.

I'll be surprised if there is anything comparable in the US. Either way, maybe the object lesson here is that we should be less disparaging of Holiday Inn, as opposed to more disparaging of DVC.

 

[muppets3d]

Holiday Inn, DVC, Marriott, Hilton Grand Vacations; it all comes from the same catalog these days.

 

[Girlstar30]

I feel its harsh. The details that PIT has in the mosaic and the poles are beautiful. I can see similarities, I guess of that one nicest holiday inn with the wood use and colors, but PIT is much more detailed and beautiful. I would not feel like I was at PIT in that lobby.

 

[muppets3d]

I feel its harsh. The details that PIT has in the mosaic and the poles are beautiful. I can see similarities, I guess of that one nicest holiday inn with the wood use and colors, but PIT is much more detailed and beautiful. I would not feel like I was at PIT in that lobby.

When you say poles do you mean the giant moss pillars? It was absolutely not to my liking but I'm glad you like it! To me there is nothing Polynesian about PIT.

 

[zackiedawg]

I understand what Disney has been going for with their new designs and refurbs - that general 'upscale resort hotel' look - figuring it plays to the widest audience, offends the fewest, and feels generally upscale and trendy. Personally I like a nice, modern resort hotel design aesthetic when traveling or going to business conventions, and I guess many would like that same atmosphere when going to Disney.

But for me, the thing I loved the most about Disney resorts were the intense theming of each property, like little worlds unto themselves. Going to Polynesian was like stepping into a movie set about Hawaii, Wilderness Lodge like a classic western National Park lodge, Boardwalk like a 1950s Northeast boardwalk setting, Animal Kingdom like a great Kenyan resort, and so on. Even the moderates, with the Coronado, Port Orleans French Quarter, and Caribbean Beach all feeling like little snippets of the actual locations they're named for. Each of these were about the building designs, the lobby theming and art, the landscaping, the continued themes in the rooms, music played on the grounds...the themes were total and all-encompassing.

The refurbs are all stripping out the theming in the rooms at existing resorts, the old rule of keeping sightlines as non-intrusive as possible have fallen away, and the new resorts are just generic upscale hotel aesthetic. They're nice - Riviera has beautiful grounds and Gran Destino has the soaring colorful lobby area...but they're not really themed...you could pick them up and drop them in any city in the World and they'd be another hotel/resort.

I still prefer to stay in the themed properties when I can - it feels the most 'Disney' to me. This new Reflections resort could be quite lovely - but it doesn't look like it will be anywhere near as 'themed' as Wilderness Lodge - it looks like it will go with the upscale resort generic style. Which would be fine by me too - IF it was just its own self-standing resort somewhere. My only real problem is how much it completely intrudes on the quiet old west pioneer town atmosphere of Fort Wilderness. Having a dance halls and watering holes and country stores with wooden horse-tie posts and half-barrel benches and tables surrounded by pine trees and a cute boat dock with open canopy boats to take you around is a bit spoiled by having a multistory concrete block towering with windows rising just feet behind the little town. Kind of knocks you out of the fantasy and escape from the modern world that Fort Wilderness provides.

Just a few hundred yards farther back, and it would have been just the top couple of floors of a distant hotel peeking over the trees, which would have preserved the quaintness of the Settlement area. I'd like to think the Disney planners of 25 years ago would have made that consideration and figured out a way to keep a little more visual separation between the two resort areas.

 

[VGCgroupie]

I understand what Disney has been going for with their new designs and refurbs - that general 'upscale resort hotel' look - figuring it plays to the widest audience, offends the fewest, and feels generally upscale and trendy. Personally I like a nice, modern resort hotel design aesthetic when traveling or going to business conventions, and I guess many would like that same atmosphere when going to Disney.

To me this doesnt feel upscale at all. Grand Californian, CCV, VGF feels upscale even OG Poly.

Poly tower is just all glaringly fake wood everywhere, to me that is offensive

 

[RuntheMouse]

I still prefer to stay in the themed properties when I can - it feels the most 'Disney' to me. This new Reflections resort could be quite lovely - but it doesn't look like it will be anywhere near as 'themed' as Wilderness Lodge - it looks like it will go with the upscale resort generic style. Which would be fine by me too - IF it was just its own self-standing resort somewhere. My only real problem is how much it completely intrudes on the quiet old west pioneer town atmosphere of Fort Wilderness. Having a dance halls and watering holes and country stores with wooden horse-tie posts and half-barrel benches and tables surrounded by pine trees and a cute boat dock with open canopy boats to take you around is a bit spoiled by having a multistory concrete block towering with windows rising just feet behind the little town. Kind of knocks you out of the fantasy and escape from the modern world that Fort Wilderness provides.

I’m with you for most of this. But……don’t forget how much the golf cart parking lot adds to the quiet old west pioneer town vibe

 

[zackiedawg]

I’m with you for most of this. But……don’t forget how much the golf cart parking lot adds to the quiet old west pioneer town vibe

Though it sounds a little crazy, it kind of does. Something about the bikes and golf carts instead of cars makes it feel like a modern extension of horses and wagons. They're slow, open to the environment, and need to be fed (plugged in) regularly. It still feels removed from the modern hustle and bustle and more laid back than cars to get around.