DUES Info! - All resorts dues have been released

[eticketplease]

Side question - what airlines tend to have gates near the member lounge at the airport? Assuming price is roughly the same between major carriers (Delta, American, United, etc.), that may be the deciding figure. Especially as the US may be in for another round of Federal shutdown and flight delays again (sadly) next year. I believe the current proposal only gets us into January. So having a good place to chill out at the airport may not be the worst plan in the world.

Side question - what airlines tend to have gates near the member lounge at the airport? Assuming price is roughly the same between major carriers (Delta, American, United, etc.), that may be the deciding figure. Especially as the US may be in for another round of Federal shutdown and flight delays again (sadly) next year. I believe the current proposal only gets us into January. So having a good place to chill out at the airport may not be the worst plan in the world.

United was in the same terminal but it is in the far wing by itself

 

[Sandisw]

I'm pretty sure that Aulani, to manage the unique legal requirements in Hawaiian, set up its own management division within DVD. I'm honestly not sure if there are other little divisions (California, SC) inside of DVD for similar reasons. But all of the Florida DVC notices tend to come on the same day, at least at my house.

I only own at WDW and mine come different days. But, not usually too far apart!

 

[ArendelleIceHarvester]

I had a nightmare dream my BWV dues went up to like $10.58 for next year. So that’s cool.

 

[eticketplease]

I had a nightmare dream my BWV dues went up to like $10.58 for next year. So that’s cool.

Well I think I would still be ok with that.

Assuming your contract was paid in full or is now paid off:
Trip 12/21 - 12/28 in a resort view studio would cost $1,290.76 ($184.39 a night)
Same trip in Resort View room on the inn side after the 20% promo is $6,820.67 ($974.38 a night)

 

[bakerr6]

Well I think I would still be ok with that.

Assuming your contract was paid in full or is now paid off:
Trip 12/21 - 12/28 in a resort view studio would cost $1,290.76 ($184.39 a night)
Same trip in Resort View room on the inn side after the 20% promo is $6,820.67 ($974.38 a night)

We just did the same disney math on our poly trip:

Trip 3/27 - 4/3 deluxe studio is $1,921 ($274.43 per night)

Same trip, same room is $7680.40 ($1,097.20 per night)

Est $8.50 per point and excludes the contract cost, but still a great savings nonetheless

 

[intamin]

We JUST booked a couple nights at VDH to precede our weeklong trip to AUL (mostly because I wanted to eat some In N Out and maybe see some friends at home), rack price is 2087 for both nights. Point cost was 44 points for both nights. Even if I was paying 20 per point (which I didn't with my RIV points) with the 130 in transient taxes I'm coming out 1k ahead. I sometimes stress about my dues increasing given how many points we have but I'm quickly reminded why we bought in and paid for them in the first place.

 

[VGCgroupie]

We JUST booked a couple nights at VDH to precede our trip weeklong to AUL (mostly because I wanted to eat some In N Out and maybe see some friends at home), rack price is 2087 for both nights. Point cost was 44 points for both nights. Even if I was paying 20 per point (which I didn't with my RIV points) with the 130 in transient taxes I'm coming out 1k ahead. I sometimes stress about my dues increasing given how many points we have but I'm quickly reminded why we bought in and pay for them in the first place.

Yeeesssss!!!

 

[DoubleBaconBLT]

At that rate Subsidized won’t be the lowest in no time… negating Sub AUL being the best as SAP+.


Yes I’m sure they will still work, they just aren’t showing due yet, so there is nothing to pay on. Unless I missed it or there is another way to make a payment?

There's already a decent chance that AUL Sub won't be the lowest next year. BLT or CCV could claim best SAP just based on the longer horizon to expiration if they have a low increase. And both Poly and GF have a shot at lower overall dues than AUL Sub in 2026. GF just seems to always have a low increase, and Poly had more of the Island Tower declared, which could dampen the overall increase for 2026.

 

[DoubleBaconBLT]

We just did the same disney math on our poly trip:

Trip 3/27 - 4/3 deluxe studio is $1,921 ($274.43 per night)

Same trip, same room is $7680.40 ($1,097.20 per night)

Est $8.50 per point and excludes the contract cost, but still a great savings nonetheless

My upcoming BWV trip is about $8000 after taxes at the best available price at the time I booked it (it's since totally sold out). It cost 170 points, or about $2200 at the price per point plus dues that our contract cost us. I still can't believe we will save $5800 on this first trip.

And that's just lodging. We also got the Sorcerer's passes, which saved us about $2500 vs Incredipass, and about $5000 over paying for tickets for the three trips we had originally planned (before we decided to buy DVC). We now have five total trips planned over the next year (~30 total nights), and I haven't done the math, but we're probably going to save over $20K vs buying those five trips fully with cash.

 

[eticketplease]

Poly had more of the Island Tower declared, which could dampen the overall increase for 2026.

I could be wrong but I think this has the opposite effect. If more is declared that is more points the owners would be responsible for.

 

[eticketplease]

We now have five total trips planned over the next year (~30 total nights),

Wow that is really taking advantage of the annual pass! You are certainly getting your money’s worth!!

 

[DoubleBaconBLT]

I could be wrong but I think this has the opposite effect. If more is declared that is more points the owners would be responsible for.

I thought that once units are declared, someone has to pay the dues for them. If they're sold, then the owners pay it. If they're unsold, then DVD pays it. Either way, the dues are calculated based on the total expenses, then allocated down to the point level. The Island Tower adds a lot more points than it does expenses, which is part of why Poly dues went down from 2024 to 2025. It's possible (though perhaps unlikely) the Poly dues will be flat to down for 2026 as well.

 

[eticketplease]

I thought that once units are declared, someone has to pay the dues for them. If they're sold, then the owners pay it. If they're unsold, then DVD pays it. Either way, the dues are calculated based on the total expenses, then allocated down to the point level. The Island Tower adds a lot more points than it does expenses, which is part of why Poly dues went down from 2024 to 2025. It's possible (though perhaps unlikely) the Poly dues will be flat to down for 2026 as well.

Like I said I could be wrong but when DVD declares inventory it opens up more rooms for us to book and then the owners would be responsible for the points that make up that declaration. If not enough points have been sold for the declarations then the dues would go up to cover these costs one would assume. However they declared more cabins last year and those dues went down so I’m not sure.

Hopefully @tjkraz can chime in.

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

My upcoming BWV trip is about $8000 after taxes at the best available price at the time I booked it (it's since totally sold out). It cost 170 points, or about $2200 at the price per point plus dues that our contract cost us. I still can't believe we will save $5800 on this first trip.

And that's just lodging. We also got the Sorcerer's passes, which saved us about $2500 vs Incredipass, and about $5000 over paying for tickets for the three trips we had originally planned (before we decided to buy DVC). We now have five total trips planned over the next year (~30 total nights), and I haven't done the math, but we're probably going to save over $20K vs buying those five trips fully with cash.

I love Disney math as much as the next person and I absolutely think BWV can pay for itself in a few years if (a) you were going to travel there anyway and (b) you travel at times were point chart makes a BWV point with $50/pt or more (they exist but you have to fight with spec renters to get them)—BUT, I think you only get to count the 3 trips you would have taken anyway, not the extra two trips you took because you got points and then you got the sorcerers’ pass, so then you got more points, etc. etc. (but I don’t judge, I went from 0–>200–>325–>475–>600 points in a year as I got stuck into “we are doing multiple trips, let’s get passes, we have passes, let’s buy more points, oh now we fly to MCO 4x a year” cycle).

 

[eticketplease]

I love Disney math as much as the next person and I absolutely think BWV can pay for itself in a few years if (a) you were going to travel there anyway and (b) you travel at times were point chart makes a BWV point with $50/pt or more (they exist but you have to fight with spec renters to get them)—BUT, I think you only get to count the 3 trips you would have taken anyway, not the extra two trips you took because you got points and then you got the sorcerers’ pass, so then you got more points, etc. etc. (but I don’t judge, I went from 0–>200–>325–>475–>600 points in a year as I got stuck into “we are doing multiple trips, let’s get passes, we have passes, let’s buy more points, oh now we fly to MCO 4x a year” cycle).

Yes we all spend more to “save more” lol

 

[tx911]

Yes we all spend more to “save more” lol

It’s mind boggling how much more I spend on Disney since buying into DVC. Someone there knows what they’re doing!

 

[Carouselofplanning]

There's already a decent chance that AUL Sub won't be the lowest next year. BLT or CCV could claim best SAP just based on the longer horizon to expiration if they have a low increase. And both Poly and GF have a shot at lower overall dues than AUL Sub in 2026. GF just seems to always have a low increase, and Poly had more of the Island Tower declared, which could dampen the overall increase for 2026.

BLT’s refurb is significantly behind schedule. Does that translate into also being over budget? If so then you’d think that gets passed onto BLT members which runs counter to dues staying low.

 

[tjkraz]

Like I said I could be wrong but when DVD declares inventory it opens up more rooms for us to book and then the owners would be responsible for the points that make up that declaration. If not enough points have been sold for the declarations then the dues would go up to cover these costs one would assume. However they declared more cabins last year and those dues went down so I’m not sure.

Hopefully @tjkraz can chime in.

No, I don't think it works quite that way. The per-point budget should be based upon what it takes to run the entire facility. Then DVC simply uses its Developer Guarantee to make the association whole after collecting whatever they can from owners.

Hypothetically, if all of PVB has 7.5M points and the operating costs + reserves + taxes for the DVC component = about $60M, dues are set at $8 per point. The published budget is always based upon what DVC expects to have in circulation in the coming year including new sales. If they base the 2026 PVB budget on 6 million points, the DVC expenses should be a similar percent of the whole...about $48M.

The math is never precise because they could miss sales targets. And dues for new buyers' dues are pro-rated, so someone who purchases in October isn't paying $8 in 2026 dues. But the developer guarantee obligates Disney to pay whatever shortfalls exist.

 

[kilik64]

Basically DVC pay dues just like we do for points they have, they keep a minimum of 2% of the total points for each location after all. Members don't fund 100% of the budget when they only own 98% or less of it.

 

[TheThousandthSoul]

It’s mind boggling how much more I spend on Disney since buying into DVC. Someone there knows what they’re doing!

It's all about value per dollar spent!