DISGUSTING! How dare the police do this...UPDATE #70!!!

[DawnCt1]

I guess after growing up in MA and being a lawyer in MA, I'm operating under the impression that none of these kids will actually be convicted of a felony (if drunk drivers and sex offenders aren't felons, I doubt these kids will get that type of conviction). I don't think they should be if it was their first offense. I do think that the idea that somehow the cop was wrong for making arrests and, at the very least, bringing it out to the school and parents that these kids bought and sold drugs is irresponsible. I've seen the results of that type of attitude. To see parents whose kids were arrested for buying and selling drugs saying their kids were done wrong is really scary

The parents who say their children "did nothing wrong" are the parents of children facing a felony charge. Would you expect them to tell the media that their kids are guilty and deserve to be arrested? We do not know what is going on at home. I am guessing that very few of those kids are getting the message from mom and dad that they did nothing wrong. In our schools they walk through on occasion with a dog. Everyone knows why the dog comes to school and no one knows when 'the dog' will show up. The question that I have with the Falmouth sting is that of entrapment, manipulation and the follow up public display.

 

[momof2inPA]

Some people have demanded they charge the kids as terrorists. It was a terrorist act. HOSPITALS were affected by this. People could of died, and maybe they did, who knows. I agree with with this. No slap on the wrist, those kids knew full well that urinating into a public water supply went way beyond a prank. It was a criminal act, it was a terrorist act.

That's ridiculous. If we call kids who pee in the drinking fountain terrorists, what do we call people who bomb a building, really bad terrorists?

That's another word, like entitlement, that's been misused so much it has lost it's true meaning. Terroristic threats should include bomb threats and threats made to national security, not a boyfriend saying he will beat up some guy who slept with his woman.

 

[DawnCt1]

I could ask the same question. What is the ultimate cost to society when they continue to make Stupid choices in their 20's?

Because they end up in jail as adults due to stupid mistakes. So I pay one way or the other for their Stupid mistakes.

That's why adults are adults and children are children. Presumably there is some "growth" between one's teens and adulthood.

 

[momof2inPA]

so you thnk she just picked random boys and bugged them until they got her drugs?? why would she target those 8 boys?

They might have had a prior connection with pot. Maybe they smoked it at a party. Or maybe they just had the bad luck to sit next to her during typing class or health class.

 

[In a hurry]

That's why adults are adults and children are children. Presumably there is some "growth" between one's teens and adulthood.

There isn't if you don't hold adolescents responsible. Just ask them if they should be treated like children!

 

[Mom2Ashli]

That's why adults are adults and children are children. Presumably there is some "growth" between one's teens and adulthood.

Wrong is wrong no matter how old you are.

 

[AllyandJack]

The parents who say their children "did nothing wrong" are the parents of children facing a felony charge. Would you expect them to tell the media that their kids are guilty and deserve to be arrested? We do not know what is going on at home. I am guessing that very few of those kids are getting the message from mom and dad that they did nothing wrong. In our schools they walk through on occasion with a dog. Everyone knows why the dog comes to school and no one knows when 'the dog' will show up. The question that I have with the Falmouth sting is that of entrapment, manipulation and the follow up public display.

The public display, from what I saw on TV, was the parents.....talking about how their kids were framed and how dare the cops do this. I don't think EVERY parent took that attitude, so I don't mean to lump them all into one group. I'm sure there are a few parents who will make sure their kids don't think this is a joke. But, the big spectacle came when some of the parents were outside the police station going off on how their kids were the victims. I wouldn't have gone on TV if it was my kid. I'd be too humiliated for one thing and too angry for another.

I would be more likely to see entrapment if the cop came in with the drugs and sold them. In my eyes, that's entrapment. I just don't see entrapment here when people have to actively pursue the person dealing the drugs, actively exchange money with 2 people, actively return to the cop with the drugs....even if it's just a few hours, there is time to think, time to decide what's right and what's wrong and time to get over the fact that she's hot. If she's standing there, looking hot, with drugs to sell and a kid hands over a $20. bill - I can see that being entrapment. I'd still want to know, as a parent and I'd still be mad and there would still be consequences at home, but I'd be more inclined to see a different side of the argument.

 

[DawnCt1]

There isn't if you don't hold adolescents responsible. Just ask them if they should be treated like children!

That is not what I am saying at all. Nor am I saying that they shouldn't receive some type of punishment. But one has to seriously question the goal of eliminating drugs from the school with these type of tactics. The PD missed an opportunity to be effective and I have no doubt that their tactics will not stand up well in court.

 

[DawnCt1]

Wrong is wrong no matter how old you are.

No one is disputing that what they did was wrong. One does have to question however the degree of entrapment and manipulation by the hot chick cop, the focus on boys rather than boys and girls and the part that really counts, the effectiveness of the program to begin with.

 

[DawnCt1]

The public display, from what I saw on TV, was the parents.....talking about how their kids were framed and how dare the cops do this. I don't think EVERY parent took that attitude, so I don't mean to lump them all into one group. I'm sure there are a few parents who will make sure their kids don't think this is a joke. But, the big spectacle came when some of the parents were outside the police station going off on how their kids were the victims. I wouldn't have gone on TV if it was my kid. I'd be too humiliated for one thing and too angry for another.

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Living in Ct. I was fortunately spared "the spectacle". I like you would decline to be interviewed, but we have another example of genetics; stupid parents produce stupid kids.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

That's ridiculous. If we call kids who pee in the drinking fountain terrorists, what do we call people who bomb a building, really bad terrorists?

That's another word, like entitlement, that's been misused so much it has lost it's true meaning. Terroristic threats should include bomb threats and threats made to national security, not a boyfriend saying he will beat up some guy who slept with his woman.

We are not talking about peeing in a public water fountain, it was a public water supply. It shut down an entire community for an entire week. Businesses were closed, lives were drastically affected. How would you have liked to have been someone scheduled for surgery at one of the hospitals that had to boil water for a week? What if you owned a business and could not open your door for an entire week? It crippled a community. Just like what the terrorist like to do.

I do not think the people comparing them to terrorists are being ridiculous. Most of those people are one's who have to deal with the after -effect, and I am sure to them, it is no different then a terrorist going in and tainting the water supply.

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132731

This was the story before they knew it was urine. It could of very easily been something else.

 

[DVC Sadie]

Now I'm not saying that these young men shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. But one should try to see this arguement from both sides of the fence. What if it was your son who got the drugs and tried to sell it to this pretty young woman?

If it was my son I would get him a lawyer but he would still be accountable. When we ask our children not to be accountable then you are teaching them that they don't HAVE to be responsible. I've seen this .throughout my years and it teaches them nothing, but how to get away with doing whatever they want, whenever they want.

 

[crazee4mickey]

Now I'm not saying that these young men shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. But one should try to see this arguement from both sides of the fence. What if it was your son who got the drugs and tried to sell it to this pretty young woman?

If it was one of my sons who was selling drugs at school--I would first of all, thank the officer for catching him and then I would ensure that they charged him with something as he would be GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY....regardless of whether the officer was pretty or not!

I would be furious that my son would even think of endangering another human life just to make money for himself! Love my kids to death but not at the expense of their own life or someone else's!!

It really annoys me that some think that because she was pretty she lured them into selling her drugs! Who cares...she was doing her job!

If it was a male officer another excuse would be found and they would be whining "he was huge and intimidated my poor innocent child into selling drugs"!!

 

[C.Ann]

What 'next' step can there be with these kids? I wouldn't let my child be an informant for the police after his face was plastered all over the evening news and the internet. If that was there intent, it should have been done quietly, individually and behind the scenes. The PD created a dog and pony show.

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With these kids? I don't know what the next step will be - but I hope it's some sort of serious punishment.. What I was referring to is the notion that this operation has come to a screeching halt with the arrest of these teens.. Do you know for a fact that there is no further investigation and/or undercover work going on in regards to this incident or the people who supplied the drugs to these teens?

No - you don't.. Unless you're privy to confidential information in that particular police department.. I think you're putting the cart before the horse by "assuming" that the arrests are the "end of the road" for this particular operation.. When you have some concrete evidence to the contrary, please feel free to post it - along with the source..

 

[DawnCt1]

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No - you don't.. Unless you're privy to confidential information in that particular police department.. I think you're putting the cart before the horse by "assuming" that the arrests are the "end of the road" for this particular operation.. When you have some concrete evidence to the contrary, please feel free to post it - along with the source..

Obviously the kids did not know they were under suspicion until they were arrested so if the PD received any information prior to their arrest, I would think we would have heard about it since it would be bigger news than a few 14 to 17 year olds. Secondly, if I were the parent of one of these kids, NO WAY would I allow them to become an informant on a drug dealer further up the food chain. What parent in their right mind would put their child at risk?
In Ct. right now the Maryann Measles defendants are being tried. She was a 13 year old who was murdered by 20 somethings for informing on them. So if you have some concrete evidence that this investigation has gone further than the high school feel free to post it-along with the source.

 

[pedro2112]

I'm curious to see whether this will be tried at the courthouse in Falmouth or whether they will take it to the county courthouse in Barnstable.

It's probably not going to be tried anywhere. Based on the new information that came out in the second article, and the fact that the prosecutors have little interest in going forward with these cases based on the facts, the best guess is that most of the kids will plead out to lesser charges in exchange for information regarding the drug dealers.

 

[DWDreams]

Now I'm not saying that these young men shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. But one should try to see this arguement from both sides of the fence. What if it was your son who got the drugs and tried to sell it to this pretty young woman?

For me, I'd then apologize to my community for having a kid with not enough sense to stay away from drugs and abide by the law.

 

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

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And I'll ask again - as I did several pages ago.. You know this how? Does your local police dept. make a point of announcing to the media what their next step is going to be in a situation such as this?

This is my local police department and I agree with you C.Ann, the department did exactly what they needed to do.
And the police really don't have much else to do..we're not a big crime ridden town and Drugs are a HUGE issue in our town as well as all of cape cod.

 

[C.Ann]

So if you have some concrete evidence that this investigation has gone further than the high school feel free to post it-along with the source.

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Obviously if I had it - or you had it - it would no longer be confidential, now would it? That's exactly my point.. If the investigation is "going further" -ummmm - I don't think getting on the six o'clock news and saying, "We're not done yet" would help their cause..

 

[C.Ann]

This is my local police department and I agree with you C.Ann, the department did exactly what they needed to do.
And the police really don't have much else to do..we're not a big crime ridden town and Drugs are a HUGE issue in our town as well as all of cape cod.

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For a small town, they did an excellent job! Hopefully they'll round up even more of these criminals now.. You know - the people that break the LAW..