Disappointed in seven dwarfs mine ride!

[jettagirl]

Could you elaborate on what you think is too scary for children? Or maybe what age group of children you're referring to. We haven't ridden it yet, but plan to next month, so I'm curiously following each and every thread on this ride. On a different thread, someone mentioned "3 big drops," and I do think those were the exact words -- curious as to what you think about that comment. Others said the drops were no more than 20-30 feet each -- I'm just trying to get all the facts straight before taking my 2 kids on it, not to mention I'm not a big fan of drops.

I think you (and your kids) will be fine. I am not a fan of roller coasters because I can't handle the big drops and, while the Mine Train does have a couple of hills, I didn't really get the stomach dropping feeling. I made DH ride it first with our almost 3-year old and our son loved it so much that he wanted to go on it again so I took him for his second ride. We had fastpasses for it again 2 days later so we took DS on it again, twice. It's really not scary in my opinion and way smoother than Barnstormer. We loved it!

 

[SoarinSC]

I'm disappointed that yet again, Disney has gone the non-thrill ride route. They have the family-friendly market covered a thousand times over. But they are falling SO far behind in other areas. Did we really need yet another mine train ride? I have no doubt I'm in the minority here, but I want to see innovation and thrills. Then again , I've beaten this drum since the whole Alien Encounter de scarification. Guess folks looking for thrills will continue to find them elsewhere, which is great news for Universal!

Yeah, but if you want thrills you do have Universal to go to. That's their niche. MK is family-oriented...so they have to keep a balance. Splash, Space, Big Thunder anchor the thrill element fine on their own.

And one's idea of innovation is relative I guess...I think there's innovation to be found in 7DMT from the vids I've seen.

 

[Sparkly]

What I don't get is if all y'all think that Universal does it better why do you go anywhere else but Universal? Just go there and stop *****ing and moaning about rides at Disney. Disney has it's niche in the market, Universal has it's niche. They are not going after the same things. Nor do I think they should. If you don't like what Disney offers as far as rides then stop going. Seems easy enough a solution to me.

+1!

Disney is Disney. Universal is Universal. What did you expect from a Fantasyland kid coaster, Forbidden Journey?

 

[Planogirl]

Isn't this ride a bit milder than Big Thunder Mountain but otherwise kind of similar? I fully expected it to be very tame but it is a shame if they didn't theme it much. I'll keep an open mind though until I get a chance to try it. As long as it's better than it's neighbor Little Mermaid then it already scores a win for me!

Another thing, it does no good to chastise people for what they post. That does about as much good as trying to keep drama off the boards.

 

[Hannathy]

I fully expected it to be very tame but it is a shame if they didn't theme it much.

I agree! It is one thing to be tame, that's fine, but why the limited themeing? If it's a mine train why wasn't the whole ride in the mine? that would have been a lot more interesting. It should have all been inside until the end. Give you the feel of riding thru the mine.

 

[macphisto96]

I bet big money this happens in almost every queue for almost every attraction at just about every theme park in the world.

Hardly something for Disney to worry about.

I've been in long lines at the opening of Forbidden Journey, The Simpsons Ride, Revenge of the Mummy, Expedition Everest, and Soarin'. I heard the same about Seven Dwarves and heard none of it concerning the other rides. I remember people getting right back into the long line on Everest to ride it again.

I think the expectations are high because this took a long time to build and was declared the centerpiece of New Fantasyland. Frankly I find Be Our Guest and Enchanted Tales with Belle to be just as big of parts, but people like a coaster.

I enjoyed it, but also agree with those who think it would have been better to be a full on mine ride.

I think the lines will die down by the end of the month substantially as things normalize and operations are refined. If not then they designed the ride with a poor capacity that can't handle crowds. Then it would be a huge failure.

But I also expect that Magic Kingdom will take a hit when Diagon Alley opens. Crowds were a bit thinner than usual when Hogsmeade open, so I expect the same again.

 

[fla4fun]

I'm done enjoying thrill rides. Outgrew them or something. They all give me a headache. Thunder mountain is about my limit.

I never liked thrill rides to begin with. I've never been a coaster fan, even as a teenager or young adult. I don't equate being afraid for my life with having fun - but that's just me.

I would agree that of all the Disney parks MK is the least likely to build super thrill rides. In my opinion, the better options are DHS and AK. I just don't think they are as good a "fit" for Epcot or MK.

 

[JACKNAG]

Universal holds master licensing in the Orlando area and beyond for most of Marvel's characters. If an image of these characters EVER enters a Disney park via an ad or a monorail (like the Avengers monorail from a few years ago), Disney will get their pants sued off and they would lose, badly. It's why you don't even see Marvel merchandize in their parks. They do that and they violate the terms of the deal. Notice that they didn't really advertise Captain America 2 much on their property as it approached release. Universal sent them a notice before Avengers concerning the monorail and essentially told them that any further steps would result in a suit.

So when Disney had the Ironman monorail did they get a notice also? I must have missed it with the Avengers. I would have thought Disney wouldn't try to puch the envelope with out legal advice.

 

[damo]

So when Disney had the Ironman monorail did they get a notice also? I must have missed it with the Avengers. I would have thought Disney wouldn't try to puch the envelope with out legal advice.

Universal is licensed for certain characters. They can't use anything that they aren't already licensed for but they can use the ones they are licensed for as long as they want.

 

[atricks]

So when Disney had the Ironman monorail did they get a notice also? I must have missed it with the Avengers. I would have thought Disney wouldn't try to puch the envelope with out legal advice.

They used a loophole in the contract for that, the monorail actually never entered a gated park. IF they used it on the Epcot line and not the Magic Kingdom line, it would have violated it, since that monorail does go into the park. All the avengers are represented in IOA, either by a ride, prop, or mural.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Because family-friendly is Disney's niche. Also, since Fantasyland is geared more towards children to begin with, it doesn't really make sense to put a thrill ride in there that most children wouldn't be able to ride.

I'm not saying SDMT should be a thrill ride, but I don't really agree with this reasoning for it. The Matterhorn at DL is, I believe, part of fantasyland. I don't consider that a kiddie coaster, and that was done by Walt himself.

 

[davedmaine]

I think once again Disney took the cheap and easy way out. Stay in the same mold, don't try anything new. Do as little as possible.

I miss when Disney stretched themselves and did new and innovative things with engineering and themeing. Now all the management is afraid to think outside the box at all , they play it safe in everything.

Spot on; Disney hasn't been innovative in the parks in a long, long time. When they double the number of Dumbo rides, you know it's being played safe.. sad, really..

 

[patty57]

As long as it's better than it's neighbor Little Mermaid then it already scores a win for me!

Agree! It also has to be better than the meet & greets originally planned.

 

[macphisto96]

So when Disney had the Ironman monorail did they get a notice also? I must have missed it with the Avengers. I would have thought Disney wouldn't try to puch the envelope with out legal advice.

Yes and they allowed the same exception. As long as the monorail did not enter a theme park, they wouldn't press their licensing. That's why those monorails did not go to Epcot. There has been talk that Disney gave Universal some compensation just to do the monorails.

The master license agreement is quite clear. They were caught flat footed on the monorails because they hadn't paid much attention to the agreement. Disney does a lot of things without paying attention to their lawyers.

Universal has granted some exceptions to them, but there are limits.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I was expecting lots of character/animatronics and there was only 1 scene at the very end. It won't please roller coaster fanatics and is too scary and not interesting for children. After all the hype what happened? Staff at universal were laughing about it!

To each their own, but

Sorry, reports from runners at WDW and the Uni people we know that just went are that it is a amazing attraction..........Maybe the Uni CM you spoke with, like TV screens more that real state of the art Imagineering.

Cannot wait until Octobe1

AKK

 

[jon18uk]

Yeah, but if you want thrills you do have Universal to go to. That's their niche. MK is family-oriented...so they have to keep a balance. Splash, Space, Big Thunder anchor the thrill element fine on their own.

And one's idea of innovation is relative I guess...I think there's innovation to be found in 7DMT from the vids I've seen.

I wouldn't even say that Thrills is Universal's Niche, its more Six Flags or in Florida it's Busch.

As others say 7DMT seems to do exactly as expected, the highly detailed crafting and detail is one of the main parts that Disney Parks Blog hyped and it is definitely well detailed!

 

[Alicatt]

My family and I really enjoyed 7DMT. I didn't expect a thrill ride though. I love thrill rides but I'm glad it was just a well themed ride.
I will say that we went to IOA this trip for the first time in a long time and thought it was just ok. I loved Hogsmeade, but other than Forbidden Journey which was awesome, there wasn't a lot to do. We ran out of HP stuff to see pretty quick. Spiderman was fun (when we weren't stuck on it) but except for pretty normal six flag style coasters and 3d screen rides that shake you around a bit and blow air and water on you, what do they have? Jurrasic Park was fun too (we got stuck on that one too). It was fine and I will go back but I certainly didn't see more innovation than at Disney.
I'm not loyal to Disney, no AP no DVC or anything, and I hope that Diagon Alley is everything it looks to be. Competition can only be good for everyone.

 

[Duck77]

We rode it on opening day with FP. My kids weren't scared at all. I thought it was cute and appropriate for Fantasy Land. The hype wasn't generated by Disney as much as people on here, and it was all based on the newness of it.

I can't wait to visit the amusement park you all build on here, since there are so many experts that could do this all better!

 

[Hannathy]

The hype wasn't generated by Disney as much as people on here, and it was all based on the newness of it.

Don't know why you would say that I think an ad campaign based on it with a nationally run commercial about it would kinda say that Disney is hyping it , don't yah think?

 

[wareagle57]

It was exactly what I expected, so I won't say I was disappointed. It was beautiful, and the theme was great as people said. But it was definitely short (which I knew) and not all that exciting. It was certainly worth riding, but not something I will wait an hour for again. I loved the dark ride part of it, and look forward to looking for new details each time, but as I mentioned, it's very short. The cottage scene at the end, Snow and Dopey were already not working. They were stationary, so I'm not sure what that's about...

Basically I think it's a really good addition to the park, but still pales in comparison to some things Universal has been doing, and in comparison to the things Disney is capable of.