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[afan]

I'm beginning to miss the good old cable bundle with an actual hardware DVR instead of the cloud. At least in those days, your provider could not reach into your recordings and delete stuff without warning or regard for the fact that you paid for those recordings at the time:

"they not only cut off access to our live programming but also deleted all previously recorded shows and events from their subscribers’ libraries."

Will there ever be enough backlash that we all go back in time to actually owning our stuff on DVD's and hardware DVR's? With stuff diapering off streamers (and cloud dvr's), after the promise of watch whatever, whenever you want, anywhere; and the constant streaming price increases, something has to change.

I didn't even think of that being something that could happen. I've got to shows and movies on our dvr that have been there for years. We still use directv for various reasons and it's bundled with our cell phones/at&t.

Some is stuff that's not on streaming and some it's just easier because it's favorite episodes so I don't have to search for them.

 

[Cfabar1]

I wonder how long the blackout will continue... Seems to me YouTube is overplaying their hand... these services like Fubo, YouTubeTV, etc. are not really that "sticky"

 

[PsylockeSmythe]

"they not only cut off access to our live programming but also deleted all previously recorded shows and events from their subscribers’ libraries."

It really isn't deleted; it is more hidden until the service is restored. Once service is restored, the previously recorded shows and events from those channels will be restored for the user.

I wonder how long the blackout will continue... Seems to me YouTube is overplaying their hand... these services like Fubo, YouTubeTV, etc. are not really that "sticky"

I'm not so sure, one article last week talked about YouTube TV being the 3rd largest operator and gaining on both Spectrum and Comcast in customer counts. In the article they quoted an analyst that figures they will soon(tm) be the 800lb gorilla of the group with how fast they are growing and that they will have the advantage over the media companies.

My best guess is that it will last no more than 2 weeks, by then both parties can save face and say they fought the good fight and come up with an agreement that neither fully likes.

Psy

 

[Fullchaos]

Maybe - the internal data over those two weeks would probably be fascinating. Youtube would be able to see how much of a drag losing ABC / ESPN's live games are on new subscriber growth / retention. We'll probably be able to tell based on the press releases or speed of resolution how bad it was.

Disney by contrast would have to see how much revenue is being lost from advertisers pulling spending during programming / by market. I'd imagine this lags more. I also reckon that the spending during live sporting events will continue to maintain a strong level regardless because these are some of the only eyeballs you won't lose to a rewatch / ad free stream.

For what it's worth, Youtube has also refunded part of subscribers price during events like this. It'd be interesting to see if they maintain that trend.