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Disney stock slumps on Wall Street downgrade citing 'near-term uncertainties'
Alexandra Canal
Fri, May 19, 2023 at 12:00 PM EDT
Disney (DIS) stock fell about 2% Friday on the heels of a fresh Wall Street downgrade.

Macquarie analyst Tim Nollen downgraded shares to Neutral from Outperform, citing declining linear networks, direct-to-consumer hurdles, and a slowing parks business.

"We see near-term uncertainties weighing on earnings, valuation, and sentiment," Nollen wrote in a note published on Friday. "We still appreciate Disney’s efforts and expect its transformation to streaming to succeed, but we see the stock as range-bound for now."
 
Nollen, who also slashed his price target to $103 a share from $125, added that he's concerned about Disney's ability to reach streaming profitability by 2024 — the company's current target.

"Disney appears likely to buy in 1/3 of Hulu at a price probably above $9bn – this along with a slower pace of sub adds (Disney+ may actually lose subs for the 3rd straight quarter in F3Q) may factor in to extended DTC operating losses beyond FY'24," he said.

Disney stock saw its biggest decline in six months after the media giant reported Disney+ shed 4 million subscribers in its fiscal second quarter following recent price hikes.


Streaming losses narrowed to $659 million in the quarter — above consensus estimates of $850 million — from a loss of $887 million in the year-ago period. The company reported a streaming loss of $1.1 billion in Q1 and a $1.5 billion loss in Q4.

Disney has reiterated plans to slash $5.5 billion in costs, which will include $3 billion in content costs. The company confirmed on its latest earnings call it will take a content impairment charge between $1.5 billion and $1.8 billion amid plans to remove multiple series and specials from both Disney+ and Hulu.

Deadline reported late Thursday that several titles, including Disney+’s "Willow," "Big Shot" and "The Mighty Ducks: Game Changers," along with Hulu’s "Dollface" and "Y: The Last Man," will be removed from their respective services on May 26.

Another issue for Disney is ESPN. Earlier this week, The Wall Street Journal reported Disney is currently laying the groundwork to transform ESPN to a fully over-the-top streaming service — something Disney CEO Bob Iger has said will happen.

"At this point, [ESPN+] is what I call a flanker business or brand to the main ESPN brand," Iger said in March. "Down the road, at some point, I think it's inevitable...[ESPN] will become a direct-to-consumer business."

Nollen echoed Iger's comments, writing in his note, "Disney next faces perhaps its biggest decision yet – not if, but when and how to put ESPN over the top."

"Doing so is inevitable, and it’s hard to see how it will be smooth: steep losses assumed in the pay TV bundle will have to be offset by strong subscriber sign-ups at a presumed high price, and before Disney even gets there it has to negotiate terms with pay TV operators on content, and with the leagues on costs for streaming rights," he cautioned. "We think the NBA renewal underway maybe a catalyst for an ESPN OTT future."
 
Definitely, but I think those comments combined with the anecdotal reports of lower crowds and more aggressive discounts along with the changes in park reservations/return of dining plan all points to a realization from Disney that there are indications of softening they are trying to get ahead of.
Some proactive management for a change, how refreshing.

Even if they are not seeing near term booking weakness, the constant drumbeat of a coming recession and the giant interest rate increases has to have an effect at some point and they are smart for starting to plan for it.
 
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/19/business/disney-ron-desantis-analysis/index.html

Disney’s fight with DeSantis masks a bigger problem: Its business is struggling
Analysis by Allison Morrow, CNN
3:20 PM EDT, Fri May 19, 2023

Disney’s battle with Florida’s Republican governor and soon-to-be presidential contender, Ron DeSantis, is playing out like a reality TV show. And while Disney’s tactical maneuvering — most recently, abandoning a $1 billion office project near Orlando — has dominated headlines, that partly overshadows a less-cinematic reality: Disney’s business is struggling.

The company’s latest salvo in the back-and-forth with DeSantis came Thursday, when it pulled the plug on its Lake Nona office complex. The project would have transferred some 2,000 high-paying jobs from California to Florida. Now, the mass relocation is off, and Disney said it would even help the 200 or so employees who’d already made the move come back to California if they want to.

There are a couple ways to read that news. For Team Disney, the move is just the latest in which the company is relentlessly dunking on a relatively inexperienced politician who picked a fight with the wrong conglomerate. If you’re on Team DeSantis, shutting down Lake Nona reflects the desperation of a company whose stock is tanking and whose core businesses face serious headwinds.

There’s a bit of truth on both sides.

A spokesperson for DeSantis said Thursday it was “unsurprising” that Disney would cancel the project “given the company’s financial straits, falling market cap and declining stock price.”

He’s not wrong. But Disney’s financial problems have much more to do with its money-guzzling streaming business and its rapidly dwindling profit from traditional cable TV.

Its streaming business (Disney+, Hulu and ESPN+) remains unprofitable, and operating income from its cable and broadcast networks fell 35% on lower ad revenue in the first quarter of this year.

Disney’s traditional safety net, the reliably profitable parks division, is still a bright spot from a financial perspective. But fans are deeply unhappy with recent pricing and logistics changes, saying they feel and nickel-and-dimed. Disney recently lowered park prices in response to customer outrage, but that didn’t exactly help its profit crunch problem.

“You need a PhD to plan Disney World vacation anymore — they’ve made it so, so complicated,” said Pete Werner, who runs the travel agency Dreams Unlimited Travel as well as WDWInfo.com, one of Disney’s oldest fan sites. “The parks and resorts have always been good for them,” he said. “That can change, and that will change if they don’t change direction of the parks soon.”

The news of the Lake Nona cancellation came the same day Disney announced it would shut down its Star Wars hotel, known as the Galactic Starcruiser, which is barely a year old. Fans had immediately balked at the price for the resort, where guests paid around $4,800 to $6,000 per cabin for an immersive two-night experience. That price point proved to be a tough sell, Werner said, and Disney began offering discounts in January.

With the parks in particular, he said, Disney is “almost surgical” with cuts.

Given the parks’ importance to Disney’s bottom line, it wasn’t about to let one of its cost-intensive resorts limp along at a loss.

Disney’s CEO Bob Iger, back for his second stint at the helm, has his work cut out for him. He may be winning the PR battle at the moment with DeSantis. But the real work — solving Disney’s existential threats — will take more than a crack team of high-paid lawyers and communications professionals to solve.

— CNN’s Natasha Chen and Chris Isidore contributed reporting.
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/20/streaming-ads-disney-netflix-warner-bros-profit.html

Desperate for streaming profits, media giants look to a soft ad market for help​

Published Sat, May 20 20238:30 AM EDT
Lillian Rizzo@Lilliannnn

Key Points
  • Media companies looking to make their streaming businesses profitable are leaning heavily on advertising.
  • NBCUniversal, Fox and Warner Bros. Discovery were among the companies to highlight ad-supported streaming at their annual pitches to advertisers this past week.
  • Free, ad-supported streaming is playing a big role in the conversation, too.


After spending years amassing streaming subscribers at great cost, media companies now need to make some profits. And they’re increasingly leaning on advertising as the answer.

Look no further for proof of that than the most recent annual Upfronts, the events where media companies like Fox
Corp. Warner Bros. Discovery, Disney and Comcast’s NBCUniversal made their pitches to advertisers.

With the absence of stars and talent due to the ongoing Hollywood writers’ strike, NBCUniversal kicked off its event with an animated video of Ted, the foul-mouthed teddy bear created by Seth MacFarlane who has landed a series on the company’s Peacock streaming service, singing and dancing to a tune that included the refrain “We need ads.”

“We were all dreamers to think that the streamers were anything but fads,” the animated teddy bear sang to the audience. “Now, we’re all begging for ads.”

The ad push comes not only as subscriber growth slows and customers drop in and out of services — commonly known as churn in the media business — but as the advertising market has softened and been slow to recover.

During Disney’s earnings call earlier this month, CEO Bob Iger put new emphasis on ad-supported streaming. And Paramount Global and NBCUniversal have touted that they’ve had cheaper ad tiers since the get-go. Warner Bros. Discovery also has added such options for consumers.

“Despite the near-term macro headwinds of the overall marketplace today, the advertising potential of this combined platform is incredibly exciting,” Iger said after announcing Hulu content would join Disney+, a move that would be a positive for advertisers.

Even Netflix, which was against advertising for years, entered the game. The 800-pound gorilla in the streaming room for the first time this past week held a virtual presentation for advertisers, unveiling information about its ad-supported tier that gave a boost to its stock.

Still, it’s early in the game, and it’s unclear whether advertising will fill the gaps of unstable subscriber growth for streaming.

‘We need ads’​

There’s been an uptick of consumers signing up for ad-supported streaming subscriptions. In the U.S., they grew nearly 25% year over year to 55.2 million in the first quarter of this year from 44.3 million in the year-earlier period, according to data firm Antenna. Growth in ad-supported tiers was on the rise last year, too. Ad-supported plan tiers accounted for 32% sign-ups in 2022, up from 18% in 2020.

When Netflix said it lost subscribers earlier last year, it sent the streaming world into a spiral, weighing on stock prices and pushing executives to find other ways to bring in revenue. By the end of the year, Netflix had launched a cheaper, ad-supported tier. Rival Disney+ did as well.

Media companies are returning to the initial business models that long propped up their businesses — generating revenue off of content in multiple ways rather than relying on one route, a subscription business.

Netflix, while noting it was still “in early days,” said this week it had 5 million monthly active users for its cheaper, ad-supported option and 25% of its new subscribers were signing up for the tier in areas where it’s available.

But media companies are struggling with the question of whether ad-tier subscriptions make up for other losses.
“I don’t think we know that answer fully yet,” said Jonathan Miller, a former Hulu board member and current CEO of Integrated Media, which specializes in digital media investments. “But I think we’ll learn that a [subscription, ad-free] customer that doesn’t churn will be the most valuable. There’s math to be learned over time as the playing field settles.”
Disney, which is also the majority owner of Hulu, has the greatest number of ad-supported subscriptions, followed by Peacock, Paramount+, Warner Bros. Discovery — which has the soon-to-be-merged Max and Discovery+ — and Netflix, according to Antenna. Hulu and Peacock are the two streamers with a majority of subscribers on ad-supported tiers, the data provider said.

FAST lane​

Another way of padding streaming businesses with revenue is through free, ad-supported, or FAST, channels.
The new streaming model is looking more like the previous TV model. FAST channels are like broadcast TV; cheaper ad-supported streaming tiers are akin to cable-TV networks; and the premium, ad-free options are similar to HBO and Showtime.

“I see FAST as a replacement for the old syndication business. There are multiple ways to monetize television,” said Bill Rouhana, CEO of Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment
, which owns ad-supported streaming services including Crackle and Redbox, as well as FAST channels.

In this photo illustration, the Paramount Global logo is displayed on a smartphone screen.
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The free streaming services, which offer both a library of content on demand and a guide of curated channels, have seen explosive growth in recent years. Fox and Paramount acquired Tubi and Pluto, respectively, not long before the surge in viewership occurred. The deals became a badge of honor in the companies’ earnings calls.
For these larger media companies, they’ve also become a place for their own libraries. Pluto shows earlier episodes of the lucrative “Yellowstone” series, which has also seen multiple spinoffs boost Paramount+.
“It really was in the last year that we saw a seismic shift,” said Adam Lewinson, Tubi’s chief content officer. “With the overarching challenges in terms of the pay streaming model and then layer in subscription fatigue. This is where in tougher economic times people look more closely at their spending. On top of that, now nearly 1 in 3 streamers are reducing their spending on streaming.”
For Fox, which is focused on sports and news on traditional TV channels, Tubi is its answer to streaming. As CEO Lachlan Murdoch had earlier noted in an earnings call, Tubi was a focal point at Fox’s Upfront presentation last week. Executives cheered Tubi for making measurement firm Nielsen’s streaming gauge report for the first time ever recently.
Paramount has similarly emphasized Pluto’s growth. During the company’s Upfront dinners with advertisers, Pluto was a key part of the conversation, said David Lawenda, Paramount’s chief digital advertising officer.
Warner Bros. Discovery has said it plans to create its own FAST channels. In the meantime, it has pulled content from HBO Max and licensed it to Tubi and Roku
.
“To also syndicate your content through FAST channels, that’s probably wisest. It could create strategic value in addition to just cash,” said Rouhana, of Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment. “In a world where churn is a fact, having the ability to show those lost subscribers content again and get money while doing it can only be good.”

Price check​

Companies also are jacking up streaming prices to make up for losses. A combination of price hikes and advertising revenue make up the planned path to profitability, Iger said during Disney’s earnings call earlier this month.
Executives at media companies including Warner Bros. Discovery, Paramount and Disney have said in previous investor calls that there remains room to grow on ad-free streaming options.

During the Disney earnings call, Iger said that while the company didn’t intend to increase prices for ad-supported customers, people who pay for content without commercials could expect an increase later this year.

“Meanwhile, the pricing changes we’ve already implemented have proven successful, and we plan to set a higher price for our ad-free tier later this year, to better reflect the value of our content offerings,” he said. “As we look to the future, we will continue optimizing our pricing model to reward loyalty and reduce churn, to increase subscriber revenue for the premium ad-free tier and drive growth of subscribers who offer the lower-cost ad supported option.”

HBO Max, Disney and Paramount have all stepped up pricing on their streaming services in the last year, all while consumers have been contending with inflation in food and other essential goods.
“It’s not clear to me that you can continue to raise prices on the subscription side given the nature of the macro economy,” said Miller of Integrated Media. “To me, it’s having the combination of things right that will optimize the business.”

Disclosure: CNBC is part of NBCUniversal, which is owned by Comcast.
 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney...treaming-profitable-196055c7?mod=hp_lead_pos4
Disney’s ABC, ESPN Weakness Adds Pressure to Make Streaming Profitable
Earnings from traditional TV have fallen sharply after helping to offset Disney+ losses in recent years

By Robbie Whelan
May 22, 2023 5:30 am EDT

Disney’s traditional television business has gone from superhero to weak link in just a few short quarters.

Income from its TV networks has dropped faster than expected as the world’s largest entertainment company struggles to boost its share price and get its streaming-video business to profitability.

The situation presents a quandary for Disney. For the past 3½ years, the company has been subsidizing the losses that its streaming division has incurred by using cash earned from two other businesses: theme parks and so-called linear TV, which makes money from ad-sales revenue and cable subscription fees paid to networks such as ESPN, the Disney Channel and Freeform.

Disney in recent months has been trying to reduce its streaming losses by slashing costs, laying off workers and evaluating moves such as selling its flagship ESPN channel directly to cable cord-cutters.

In Disney’s most recent financial quarter, operating income from the linear TV segment fell by 35% to $1.8 billion, its sharpest year-over-year decline in at least three years. Operating income from Disney’s parks, experiences and products unit has exceeded that of the linear-TV business for two consecutive quarters for the first time since Disney launched its streaming business.

Disney Chief Financial Officer Christine McCarthy has said the downturn in the linear-TV business isn’t permanent and has affected rivals too, and that when the advertising market improves, so will Disney’s finances.

“Advertising is cyclical. I think everyone is pretty much down on advertising,” she said at an investor conference earlier this month. “But the fact of the matter is, advertising will come back. When the ad market does become more robust, we are very, very well positioned.”

The rapid deterioration of the linear-TV business points to more fundamental change in the kind of business Disney is, analysts say.

“We would joke 10 years ago that the company could be called ESPN instead of Disney—that’s how good the sports broadcasting business was,” analyst Michael Nathanson said.

“Now that the parks business is the majority of the company’s profitability, and it’s growing very strongly, people are going to realize that this is first and foremost a leisure company that just happens to have a call option on streaming and linear media,” he said.

Since returning for a second stint as chief executive in November, Robert Iger has said he is focused on fixing streaming and hitting the goal of getting the business to break-even by September 2024.

He has made some progress. In the quarter ended April 1, streaming losses narrowed to $659 million, nearly $200 million less than what Wall Street analysts had projected. Since the company’s flagship Disney+ service launched in late 2019, the streaming division has accumulated losses of $10.3 billion, according to financial filings.

And ESPN, home to shows such as “Monday Night Football” that are hugely valuable to advertisers and cable companies, is laying the groundwork for a shift to a fully streaming-focused model at some point in the future, The Wall Street Journal has reported, a change that would allow Disney to sell sports entertainment including live events directly to consumers and offer advertisers the chance to target subscribers more precisely.

But none of that has been enough to cheer investors, who have traded shares of Disney for under $100 each for much of the year. Since the start of 2023, Disney’s stock price has risen 5.2%, closing at $91.35 on Friday, compared with the S&P 500 index, which is up 9.2% on the year.

In December, Disney raised prices for Disney+ and some of its streaming bundles at the same time that it launched a lower-priced, ad-supported tier, in a bid to increase the average revenue it gets each month from streaming users.

The move worked for subscribers in North America and Europe, pushing average revenue up by 70 cents from the previous quarter to $6.47, according to Disney’s financial filings. But at the same time, in India, where the Disney+ Hotstar service accounts for more than one-third of the total 157.8 million Disney+ subscribers, average monthly revenue per user fell to 59 cents, from 74 cents the previous quarter.

The ad-supported tier of Disney+ has signed up 1.1 million subscribers in just over four months of existence, according to new statistics published by media analytics firm Antenna, but Disney watchers say it will be a while before the impact of those new users is visible in financial results.

McCarthy said at the conference earlier this month that the company plans to raise prices for its streaming services again.

Meanwhile, a soft TV advertising market and a writers’ strike that threatens to delay production of new series for both streaming and broadcast have limited enthusiasm for media companies more broadly.

All this adds up to more pressure on companies such as Disney to get streaming to profitability and fewer sources of income to rely on going forward to subsidize big spending on content.

“Cable is dead, let’s all be honest,” said Evan Shapiro, a former TV producer and executive who now teaches media management at New York University.

Shapiro said large media companies need to lessen their dependence on the profit generated by linear TV, given how quickly cord-cutters are unsubscribing from cable TV packages.

“Big media companies like Disney really should create a certain date for when they’re going to abandon the horse-and-buggy model,” he said. “It would create a lot of clarity.”

Iger said last year, before retaking the helm at Disney, that traditional TV “is marching to a distinct precipice, and it’s going to be pushed off.” This year, at Disney’s upfront presentation in New York—the annual gathering where media companies pitch their most promising programs to Madison Avenue buyers—Disney focused heavily on sports, bringing onstage pro athletes and commentators to sing the praises of ESPN and coverage of events such as the NBA playoffs.

Analysts at MoffettNathanson in New York recently reported an annual rate of cord-cutting of 6.9% in the first quarter of 2023, the steepest decline on record. More than two million households canceled their traditional TV plans—or those that are delivered via cable, satellite or a telecom service—in the quarter.

“Sports ratings are holding pretty well, but you’re seeing an acceleration in cord-cutting, and that’s why linear TV profits are in free fall,” Nathanson said. “For Disney, it’s really about self-help on the cost side. Other companies have been more aggressive about quickly shutting down program spending and cutting administrative costs.”
 
Here’s some of that added depreciation at WDW:

Disney Parks chairman Josh D'Amaro comments on Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser closure

Josh said, "It didn't perform exactly like we wanted it to perform. Despite the fact it was a never before seen experience and raised the bar, we thought it was time to sunset this in September."

According to D'Amaro, Disney will accelerate depreciation on the Starcruiser hotel by $150 million in both Q3 and Q4 2023.
 
Here’s some of that added depreciation at WDW:

Disney Parks chairman Josh D'Amaro comments on Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser closure

Josh said, "It didn't perform exactly like we wanted it to perform. Despite the fact it was a never before seen experience and raised the bar, we thought it was time to sunset this in September."

According to D'Amaro, Disney will accelerate depreciation on the Starcruiser hotel by $150 million in both Q3 and Q4 2023.
this makes sense. Also this tells us they knew starcruiser wouldn't last
 
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/disney-cost-cuts-parks-1235497642/

Disney Parks Chair Says He Won’t Cut Frontline Labor As Part of $5.5B Cost-Saving Measures​


The company is still thinking "pretty aggressively" about where it can invest in Florida theme parks, said Disney exec Josh D’Amaro.
By Caitlin Huston
May 22, 2023 7:55am PDT

As Disney pledges to enact $5.5 billion in cost-saving measures, Disney Parks Chairperson Josh D’Amaro said his department will also be making cuts, but will not eliminate frontline positions as part of it.

“What I will not do is cut any labor from the frontline,” D’Amaro said. “I want to make sure that our frontline castmembers continue to service our guests and create that true Disney difference, but there are opportunities for us to continue to look at using technology in a more progressive way to save costs, to simplify the guest experience and save costs along the way.”

Speaking at an investor conference Monday, D’Amaro also touched on the news that Disney will not be building a new campus in Lake Nova, Florida, reiterating that this was due to new leadership and changing business conditions. He added that the “political situation” in Florida has not yet impacted the parks’ business results.

The executive said that eliminating plans for the campus has also not impacted the $17 billion CEO Bob Iger has said Disney will spend in Florida over the next 10 years.

That $17 billion investment will include transforming EPCOT, a new Star Tours attraction and Tiana’s Bayou Adventure.

“We’re thinking pretty aggressively about where we can take things in Florida,” he said.

On the news that Disney will be shutting down its Star Wars-themed Galactic Starcruiser hotel in September, D’Amaro called it a “pretty stunning asset” and one that received high ratings from guests.

“We did decide that despite the fact that this was a never-before-seen type of experience, and I think it’s raised the bar from a creativity perspective on where we can go next, we thought it was time to sunset this beginning in September,” he said.

As for whether Disney may be interested in creating smaller parks in the same vein as Universal, D’Amaro demurred.

“I think, you know, it must be interesting for them. For us, we think that focusing on our core assets is where we should be spending most of our opportunity,” he said.
 
https://deadline.com/2023/05/disney-florida-ron-desantis-theme-parks-josh-damaro-1235375425/

Disney Parks Chief Josh D’Amaro Says Clash With Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Has Not Hurt Business; Company Still Plans To Spend $17B In State Over Next Decade
By Dade Hayes
Business Editor
May 22, 2023 7:19am PDT

If the feud between Disney and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was going to be escalated yet again, parks chief Josh D’Amaro didn’t seem like he would be the one to do it.

In an appearance Monday at the JP Morgan Global Technology, Media & Communications Conference, the chairman of Disney’s Parks, Experiences and Products unit affirmed that the Florida clash has not hurt the division’s business results. He also said a long-term target of spending $17 billion in the state remains intact, despite the recent decision to abandon plans to move 2,000 staffers to Florida and build a new campus 20 miles from Disney World.

Asked by moderator and JP Morgan media analyst Phil Cutick whether the battle has altered parks operations in any way, D’Amaro responded, “It has not. As you’ve seen in our results, the progress we’ve made coming out of Covid has been exceptionally strong.” In the company’s most recent quarterly financials, parks proved a highlight, though declines at linear TV networks and in streaming subscribers held the company back.

Asked about the decision to reverse course on building the new facility in Florida, which reportedly will deprive the state of $1 billion in proceeds, D’Amaro said, “a lot has changed” since plans were initially announced in 2022. “We have new leadership in place,” he said, primarily CEO Bob Iger, who returned to the top job in November 2022 after the ouster of Bob Chapek. “And No. 2, business conditions have changed pretty significantly, so taking that all into account, we said at this point in time we’re going to reverse that decision.” The move also ensured that “we’re taking care of employees in the right way,” he added.

Even with that pullback on the new campus, the company still plans to spend $17 billion in Florida over the next decade, D’Amaro said. “We’re thinking pretty aggressively about where we can take things in Florida,” he said. “I’m excited about what’s in store.”

DeSantis battled with Chapek during his efforts to push through so-called “don’t say gay” legislation, which restricts material pertaining to sexual orientation that can be taught in schools. The fight wound up angering thousands of Disney workers and at the same time got the company tagged as “Woke Disney” as DeSantis ramped up his culture-war attacks. Iger then proceeded to outmaneuver DeSantis in the fight over control of the quasi-governmental district, Reedy Creek, which surrounds Disney World. The company also filed a lawsuit on First Amendment grounds, arguing that DeSantis had punished Disney after its comments about the legislation.

D’Amaro was also asked about the recent decision to close Florida’s Star Wars Galactic Star Cruiser hotel in September. He called it a “pretty stunning asset” and said the execution of it by Imagineers and staffers running it “raised the bar” for parks experiences. Nevertheless, “it didn’t perform exactly like we had hoped it would perform,” he said. “So, despite the fact that this was a never-before-seen attraction, we felt it was time to sunset it.”

Over the next two quarters, D’Amaro said the division expects an acceleration in depreciation related to the hotel of $100 million to $150 million.
 
“Now that the parks business is the majority of the company’s profitability, and it’s growing very strongly, people are going to realize that this is first and foremost a leisure company that just happens to have a call option on streaming and linear media,” he said.
That confirms that one analyst has come to the conclusion that the parks are where its at now. That should lead to study investment in them...at least we can hope.
 
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/news/2023/05/22/beyond-big-thunder-budget/


Josh D’Amaro Confirms “Beyond Big Thunder” and Dinoland USA Teases Are Part of $17 Billion Florida Investment

by Tony Betti | May 22, 2023 8:12 am (Pacific)

Remember that cryptic teaser/announcement at the D23 Expo last year? Turns out those were plans after all, and earlier today, Josh D’Amaro confirmed that the Dinoland Demolition and what’s Beyond Big Thunder are included in the $17 billion investment announced by Bob Iger recently.

What’s Happening:
  • While Disney Parks, Experiences, and Products chairman Josh D’Amaro was participating in a Q&A session at the JP Morgan Global Technology, Media & Communications Conference earlier today, he confirmed that the plans teased as “thought provoking ideas” at the D23 Expo in Anaheim last fall, are in fact projects included in the proposed $17 billion dollar investment at Walt Disney World.
    • Announced during Disney’s 2023 Annual Meeting of Shareholders, Bob Iger revealed when asked about the situation with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, that Disney had the intent of investing $17 billion in Walt Disney World over the next 10 years.
    • Devotees will recall that D’Amaro announced he was “sure to make some fans nervous” when he set his eyes on Dinoland U.S.A. at Disney’s Animal Kingdom for new areas and attractions based on two Walt Disney Animation Studios films, Moana, and Zootopia.
    • D’Amaro was then joined by Chris Beatty from Walt Disney Imagineering and Jennifer Lee from Walt Disney Animation Studios as they discussed thinly veiled plans as “suggestions” for what can be done with the corner of Disney’s Animal Kingdom.
    • Mentioning that the area could be home to some characters from Walt Disney Animation Studios (and forgetting that DINOSAUR is a film from that same studio), they mentioned some thoughts on what could be injected into that area, and still retain the animal theme of the park.
    • The “what if” session continued, pitching a recreation of Santa Cecilia from Coco was introduced showing the potential of an experience based on the Pixar Animation Studios film. Jennifer Lee took over and showcased the idea of an Encanto–themed plaza, and the iconic casita that belongs to the Madrigals, with the potential of opening each family member’s door.
    • Then, D’Amaro, excited by the idea, discussed something with Chris Beatty that has been on the tongues of Disney Parks Fans since the 90’s – the possibility that maybe, just maybe, a land devoted to Disney Villains lies in the area beyond Big Thunder Mountain.
  • Showing another piece of “thought provoking” art, the three unveiled that all three of these ideas could lie together in the space beyond Big Thunder Mountain at Walt Disney World.
  • The art showcases a looming land of villains in the shadows of the distance, anchored on both sides by both Coco and Encanto themed experiences with the spires of Big Thunder Mountain in the foreground.
  • Today’s Q&A session not only included these ideas as part of the $17 billion investment budget, but also revealed that the now-canceled Lake Nona campus was never part of those funds.
  • D’Amaro also indicated/reminded fans that they currently have plenty of space to expand the parks beyond the berm at both Magic Kingdom and Disneyland Park.
  • However, it should be noted that though D’Amaro confirmed these projects are included in that $17 billion budget, Walt Disney Company CEO Bob Iger noted on the recent Q2 earnings call, that the company might be reconsidering that investment thanks to the current back and forth between Disney and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
 
That confirms that one analyst has come to the conclusion that the parks are where its at now. That should lead to study investment in them...at least we can hope.
We all came to that conclusion several quarters ago, IIRC - that the parks were making money at triple the return on revenue compared to entertainment. It's good to see that "analysts" have finally learned how to read P/L statements.
 
That confirms that one analyst has come to the conclusion that the parks are where its at now. That should lead to study investment in them...at least we can hope.
I doubt anything changes. They are too invested in D+. ROI on new attractions isn't high enough. Adding new attractions costs money.
 
I doubt anything changes. They are too invested in D+. ROI on new attractions isn't high enough. Adding new attractions costs money.
Paying writers, showrunners, producers, directors and actors to make content that no one watches also costs money. Nothing has happened over the past year that changes my mind about the future of ABC/ESPN/Freeform/etc. They all needs to be sold or spun off asap. First thing in the morning.
 
Paying writers, showrunners, producers, directors and actors to make content that no one watches also costs money. Nothing has happened over the past year that changes my mind about the future of ABC/ESPN/Freeform/etc. They all needs to be sold or spun off asap. First thing in the morning.
IMO they should also get rid of D+ as well. It makes more sense to license out any shows or movies.
 
ROI on new attractions isn't high enough. Adding new attractions costs money.

LL purchases have really changed ROI IMO.

Appears they bring in about $50 to $70 Million a year, per attraction.
 
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/22/media/disney-layoffs/index.html

Disney begins third round of expected layoffs, cutting more than 2,500 additional jobs, source says
By Liam Reilly and Jon Passantino, CNN
Published 5:32 PM EDT, Mon May 22, 2023

A third wave of expected layoffs is underway at Disney, and employees impacted by the cuts are being notified this week, a source familiar with the situation told CNN.

More than 2,500 staff are expected to lose their jobs across the latest wave of layoffs, the source said, in what is anticipated to be the last significant round of cuts that were previously announced by Disney CEO Bob Iger. It was not immediately known which divisions would be impacted by the latest round of cuts.

A Disney spokesperson declined to comment.

The first two waves of layoffs took place in March and April, eliminating roughly 4,000 jobs, including at ESPN, Disney’s entertainment division, Disney Parks, and its Experiences and Product division.

In February, Iger announced the media giant would axe roughly 7,000 employees from its global workforce in three waves before the start of summer, an undertaking aimed at saving $5.5 billion in costs. The labor cuts make up 30% of this figure, with another 50% coming from marketing operations and 20% from decreased spending on technology, procurement, and other expenses, the company said.

The latest wave of layoffs taking place this week is expected to bring the total number of job cuts to more than 6,500, approaching the 7,000 figure previously announced by Iger. As of October 1, Disney had 220,000 employees — making the 7,000-person reduction about 3% of its global workforce.
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...successor-to-be-rushed-chernin-says#xj4y7vzkg
Disney Faces ‘Very Rushed’ Search for Iger Successor, Peter Chernin Says
by Gerry Smith
5/23/23

Walt Disney Co. is facing a “very rushed succession process” as it searches for a candidate to replace Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger, former News Corp. executive Peter Chernin said Tuesday at the Qatar Economic Forum.

“It’s a slightly weird thing to say within two years I’m out again,” said Chernin, co-founder and partner of the investment firm TCG. “On some level, this time next year they should know who his successor is.”

Iger, Disney’s CEO for 15 years, returned to run the company in November under a two-year contract and a mandate to help find his replacement.

Another of Disney’s biggest decisions will be figuring out when to offer the ESPN cable channel directly to consumers online. That will be “a pretty challenging transition,”
Chernin said, adding that the advertising revenue and fees from cable providers that ESPN gets would be “pretty hard to replace.”

“There’s no scenario in life where an ESPN streaming platform is immediately as successful as the cable platform,” he said.
 

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