I'm usually all for the less government interference, the better.
However the airline industry sharing lists and self-policing instead of escalating it to the Federal level which already has a protocol in place for this? Ummm.... I'm I can't even trust the airlines to notify me when they cancelled my flight or answer their phone within 20 minutes. How can I trust them to collectively agree and enforce that violent passengers are kept off all their flights?
Airlines are hurting for money and after a while might happily take any reservation they can whether they "should" or not. What happens if the airlines share the list with each other and a passenger falls through a loophole and is booked into a flight anyway. Then they seriously hurt or kill someone or endanger the flight? It's a nightmare waiting to happen.
That being said, the distinction needs to be made between unruly vs. violent (or a criminal act). The latter should be put on the Fed list.
I think this was a very responsible move on Delta's part. There needs to be some oversight.
Alcohol may be a contributing factor, but lack of alcohol can also make certain people irate. And some people that don't drink at all are still in need of some serious anger management or mental health support. I don't think the problem is going to be solved based on alcohol.
te is as absurd as proposing to permanently eliminate alcohol on board. You should be able to wear a mask when you know fully well that you are expected to and you should be responsible for your own alcohol consumption without penalizing everyone
100% to the bolded by
@spiders and
@lockets. People should be held accountable for their actions, whether drinking or not.
If one doesn't want to wear a mask, then one should not go to a business or place that requires them. It's not like it's an obscure rule that is hidden from public view, until it is warranted. One is told when one purchases the tickets, upon arrival to the airport, before getting on the plane, and while on the plane, that they are required. It's not a surprise. These people think that if they make enough of a fuss, the FAs will just shrug their shoulders and go "oh, yeah, they just didn't want to wear the mask, so we just let it go"; or the people are doing it to 'prove their point'; or to become 'internet famous'.
Screaming at flight attendants (or fast food workers, or cashiers at a store, or really anyone who works at any business that isn't an owner or on the board of directors) because the business they work for requires something (shirt, shoes, payment for services rendered, whatever one is mad about) is absolutely ridiculous; those people have zero say on what the policies are at those businesses. If one wants to have a fit about a policy, they should have it with the people who make those policies.
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To the original post: If there is to be a national no fly list, there needs to be a long list of specific situations that allow listing on the list, and oversight by an independent committee. There should be notification that people are on the list; a way to dispute the ruling; a list of requirements to be able to be removed from the list (i.e. anger management classes + fines/service hours); and if removed and there is a repeat issue with the same person, there needs to be a ruling that one cannot be removed again, and the no fly becomes permanent.
