Debark One Port Early

brianvdb

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Here's a hypothetical that I have been wondering about...

How would DCL handle a request to voluntarily disembark early? As an example... Family of 5 books B2B Alaska, then Vancouver to LA. One person in the group has to be back to work early, and debarks in San Francisco; the rest of the group continues on to LA. I'd assume that the person leaving early would have to check out with DCL somehow and clear US customs in SF?

Not something I'm looking to do, but kind of curious.
 
The only time I have ever heard of that being done is for a family emergency at home, but it was done for that. There were at least two parties I remember hearing about that left the ship at Honolulu on the Hawaii cruise and flew home due to family emergencies. So it could be arranged (at least in an emergency situation - I'm not so sure that "have to be back at work early" qualifies) but I think the party leaving the ship is on their own as to arranging transportation.
 
Here's a hypothetical that I have been wondering about...

How would DCL handle a request to voluntarily disembark early? As an example... Family of 5 books B2B Alaska, then Vancouver to LA. One person in the group has to be back to work early, and debarks in San Francisco; the rest of the group continues on to LA. I'd assume that the person leaving early would have to check out with DCL somehow and clear US customs in SF?

Not something I'm looking to do, but kind of curious.

While this option may be available on some cruiselines, I don't think DCL allows it. Firstly, you would need to get permission from DCL. And arrangements must be made for the necessary port agents (customs/immigration) to be in San Francisco for the disembarkation day. I don't think SF has the port staffed everyday, so that might not be do-able.
 
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Nala, man are you right about RIP Adventurers! I put Comedy Warehouse in that same category! Tons of lines all the time. They could have kept those two open and sold admission just to those. We couldn't get enough!

:sad:
 

When we were on Pride of America in April, we saw a party of three ,with their luggage, getting off the ship on last day (in Kauai). I don't know the circumstances around it though.
 
While this option may be available on some cruiselines, I don't think DCL allows it. Firstly, you would need to get permission from DCL. And arrangements must be made for the necessary port agents (customs/immigration) to be in San Francisco for the disembarkation day. I don't think SF has the port staffed everyday, so that might not be do-able.

Wouldn't passengers getting off for excursions have to pass through customs anyway?
 
Wouldn't passengers getting off for excursions have to pass through customs anyway?

Nope. Getting off for excursions, the ship in general is cleared by Customs officials but not each passenger, and you simply need KTTW and ID to get off in port. When debarking at the end of a cruise, you literally carry your luggage through Customs, complete a Customs declaration sheet regarding what was purchased, pay anything due, etc. It's more involved, though still not terribly difficult.
 
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On the Magic from NY to the Bahamas cruise last August, there were several families who had people in their parties disembark luggage and all to fly home when we landed in Nassau. I am not sure what their individual situations where, but I saw a woman with her daughter, why the rest of the family stayed with Dad, a man who left his family to fly home and a set of grandparents. All three had to disembark differently then us.
 
Nope. Getting off for excursions, the ship in general is cleared by Customs officials but not each passenger, and you simply need KTTW and ID to get off in port. When debarking at the end of a cruise, you literally carry your luggage through Customs, complete a Customs declaration sheet regarding what was purchased, pay anything due, etc. It's more involved, though still not terribly difficult.

Then if there is someone there to clear the ship, they can process that one person, too. :confused3
 
Then if there is someone there to clear the ship, they can process that one person, too. :confused3

Sounds simple enough, but I wouldn't dare assume it possible. Government employees - the one who clears a whole ship may not be someone who can process individual passengers. Job duties, labor grades, etc. (and I do not mean that negatively on anyone specifically, but recognizing that there are such issues involved). Basically, a manifest provided by the cruise line is cleared for the ship to enter port and debark passengers for a port-stop, and conceivably that could be done pre-arrival or off-site. A PP indicated there isn't actually Customs officials in the SF port every day.
 
I'm sure there's a way to make it work. Call DCL and ask.
 
I just asked someone who works for CBP and said that there is always someone there who can process a passenger who disembarks. Be it people discharging for an excursion or ending their trip, there is an officer that can process them.
What DCL policy on this remains to be told though.
 
I know they're not guests, but it's very common for the entertainers (commedians, magicians, jugglers, etc) to only cruise for part of the cruise. On our recent B2B cruises, we had entertainers disembark and embark mid-cruise on the Eastern (in either St. Martin or St. Thomas) and on our Western, at both Costa Maya and Cozumel. On past cruises, we've seen entertainers leaving at St. Martin and even disembarking on Castaway Cay! As there is obviously someone to process them through into the country for transportation back to the US (usually), I would imagine that there would be a process for guests as well.

However, there would probably be an issue if disembarking (for good) at a US port without first visiting a distant foreign port - when you start putting the cruise line in danger of fines due to breaking maritime laws, you might have problems. ;)
 
Wouldn't passengers getting off for excursions have to pass through customs anyway?

I have not been on a cruise yet with an intermediate stop in the US, but my understanding was that everyone getting off a cruise ship and entering the US was cleared by CBP at each stop, whether it be just for a day excursion or their final destination.

I just asked someone who works for CBP and said that there is always someone there who can process a passenger who disembarks. Be it people discharging for an excursion or ending their trip, there is an officer that can process them.

That would seem to back up what I said - you get cleared even if just for excursions.

The one exception to the rule would be:

When we were on Pride of America in April, we saw a party of three ,with their luggage, getting off the ship on last day (in Kauai). I don't know the circumstances around it though.

Pride of America is a US flagged vessel and cruises only between US ports. Thus, people getting on and off it don't have to go through Customs or Immigration checks.

However, there would probably be an issue if disembarking (for good) at a US port without first visiting a distant foreign port - when you start putting the cruise line in danger of fines due to breaking maritime laws, you might have problems.

That's right. An example would be the 7-night itineraries that depart Galveston, and stop at Key West before continuing to Castaway Cay and Nassau before heading back to Galveston. It would be illegal for a passenger to disembark at Key West and end their voyage there, as that would constitute a non-US vessel providing direct passenger transportation between US ports (a violation of the Jones Act). However, crew, including entertainers, are allowed to disembark in such a situation.

If you had an itinerary that first stopped at a foreign port, and then a US port before before returning to the original US port (i.e. a "closed-loop cruise" that happens to stop at multiple US ports), you'd have another potential issue if you needed to get off at the intermediate US port: if you chose to travel only with a birth certificate because that was all that was needed for a closed-loop cruise, you'd run afoul of the rule that requires a passport for open-loop cruises between US ports. They won't deny you entry, but you could be assessed a fine.

BTW, this is a lot of the reason that the Alaska cruises start and end in Vancouver, rather than Seattle. By starting and ending in Vancouver, they can board passengers that miss the boat at any point along the way, as well as accommodate early departures from an Alaska port.
 
I've done this myself. In 2010 we sailed the Med (so maybe different rules?) but had to be back for school by the end of the cruise. Initially we were going to turn up one day late to school but as I was starting a new job at the school my kids were going to I decided it wasn't really an option. We boarded in Barcelona and disembarked 2 days before the end of the cruise in Villefranche. DCL were fab. It was a tender port and we spent the day visiting the port, went back on board, had a late lunch and disembarked on one of the later tenders with all of our cases. From the port we got a taxi to Nice airport, absolutely no issues at all. Disney knew about it way in advance and had cleared us to do this. Certainly there was no problem on their part and they dealt with it as though they saw it, if not fairly frequently, enough that. It wasnt a surprise to them .
 
I've done this myself. In 2010 we sailed the Med (so maybe different rules?) but had to be back for school by the end of the cruise. Initially we were going to turn up one day late to school but as I was starting a new job at the school my kids were going to I decided it wasn't really an option. We boarded in Barcelona and disembarked 2 days before the end of the cruise in Villefranche. DCL were fab. It was a tender port and we spent the day visiting the port, went back on board, had a late lunch and disembarked on one of the later tenders with all of our cases. From the port we got a taxi to Nice airport, absolutely no issues at all. Disney knew about it way in advance and had cleared us to do this. Certainly there was no problem on their part and they dealt with it as though they saw it, if not fairly frequently, enough that. It wasnt a surprise to them .

In Europe there is no problem disembarking early, as long as the proper authorities are on hand.

Disembarking early on a North American cruise is a bit more problematic.

But the final OK on whether someone will be allowed to do it is the cruiseline in question.
 
DCL allows this so long as the law allows it and so long its feasible at the port in question. I received an email from DCL in this regard. In fact, the cabin next door to us disembarked at Naples rather than Barcelona. You must notify them ahead of time and take care of customs paperwork, etc.
 
With the specific example given, I think it wouldn't be a customs problem because generally cruise passengers clear US customs in Vancouver, BC, when they board the ship (likewise, flying to the US from Canada, you generally clear US customs before boarding the US-bound airplane).
 


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