Deb Wills sez Disney Institute to be next DVC

[KCritter]

Deb Wills has an unofficial report on her web site that DI will be the next DVC:
Deb Wills News Flash

I know there has been a lot of speculation on these boards about it, but has anybody heard anything else lately?

 

[chris1gill]

One word....

YUCK

no way, no shape, no how are those buildings of the DVC quality... Yuck.....

 

[Firefighter Mickey]

They would have to tear down existing structures to make this work. If those buildings still have some useful life in them, I can't see DVD/Disney doing this.

I suspect that she's actually talking about the proposed Eagle Pines, and has confused that with DI.

 

[PamOKW]

There is something similar on the AOL site. It looks like it might be something that was sent out to travel agents regarding not taking the ressies for DI. I agree that as currently built it is not up to the DVC standards. It also has different configurations. I could see using the property but not the buildings. I hope this doesn't impact Eagle Pines.....that was something to really look forward to.

I'll try doing a search to see if anything else comes up on this rumor.

 

[friskykitten]

I really do, BUT my guide has said that same thing.....kind of. We were just talking about what the future of DVC MIGHT hold and I was curious whether they might add on to another resort, ie: the Grand Floridian or something. He didn't think the GF was a likely thing at all. If anything DVC might consider taking the Contemporary's long buildings and turn those into DVC villas keeping the tower for the hotel.

I had also asked if he thought Disney would be building another property similar to Vero Beach or Hilton Head in the future. He said they would probably think about the DI as the next property because it is already on-site so Disney already owns the land and it has all the necessary utilities, etc. right there. That means minimal cost to build.

Again, I MUST insist that we were just tossing ideas and opinions around. NONE of this is a fact or even a rumor from my guide.

 

[kamgen]

Let me say first that I am not trying to ruffle any feathers here, but I probably will....so sorry!

Well, I think it is wrong to post something you "heard" might happen or is happening. I am sure when something is finalized, we will be told. So, I don't think rumors should be on someone' site unless they heard from a reputable source. Not saying that Deb is right or wrong with her info.

I have heard things from very reputable sources, BUT I will not post them because i was asked not to. So, I will keep the information I have and wait for a formal announcement when there is one.

JMHO.

Kamy

 

[DVC Chris]

It is interesting that this 'rumor' has surfaced again... A few months back, when it was announced that parts of the DI would be closing, someone mentioned that a DCL Bus driver told them that parts of the DI would be 'converted' to a DVC. It will be interesting to see if anything ever comes of this. It does concern me that this 'rumor' pops up at a time when they are reportedly starting work at Eagle Pines. At the member's meetings in December, they assured us that Eagle Pines was still a go!

I agree that the DI buildings are nowhere near DVC standards. BUT, they are among the oldest on property and I could see them bulldozing the buildings and re-building new ones in their place. The area closest to PI (I think) would be ripe for this sort of developement. It is right on the lake and is close to all the 'newer' construction that was done for the DI.

I do hope, however, that they do NOT bulldoze the Treehouse Villaa. I particularly think they are GREAT accommodations and offer something very different than any other location on property. Even though they are smaller than most DVC accommodations, their location, privacy and quietness are great.

Once again, just my two cents!

Chris

 

[PamOKW]

mentioned that a DCL Bus driver told them that parts of the DI would be 'converted' to a DVC.

Sometimes those bus drivers are the best source of info. Quite a few years ago a bus driver pointed over to the woods between Y&B and All-Star and said "They will be building a resort with a Southwest Theme over there."......voila -- Coronado Springs.

Kamgen I agree that rampant rumor is a bad thing. Everything posted here we should know needs to be taken with "a grain of salt" but when someone puts it on their site they should give some source for their material. It reads like a press release. I usually like Deb's site but I question this week's newsletter that spoke of the parks being dirty and then following up with this info.

 

[sgtpet]

I am so excited, I wonder whether they will presell DI. If so what will be the incentives. Anybody know?

 

[Firefighter Mickey]

Th incentive will be another increase in price just before it goes on sale.

Seriously though, DVC doesn't really need to do much in the way of incentives - the only reason they do MB is because they (DVD) gets something out of it.

 

[KirstenB]

I've never been inside any of the DI buildings, so I want to make sure I understand...these are the contemporary, cedar-sided dwellings on the golf course, near the Treehouse Villas, right? They look okay to me from the outside. Maybe they could just update the interior and exterior, and at least keep the basic framing, rather than bulldoze the whole structure. It does make sense rather than having to clear all new ground, etc.

 

[DebbieB]

Beach Club Villas may be sold out by late 2003 or early 2004. I don't know what the projected date for Eagle Pines was, but maybe they figure they can renovate DI and have it ready to sell by the time Beach Club Villas sellout. It would take less time to renovate DI than to build Eagle Pines from the ground up.

 

[Chuck S]

The following is pure speculation and "what ifs" on my part.

1) DVD could build some new buildings "attached" to the current DI resort, similar in the way the BWV and VWL are "attached" to their rental resorts -or-

2) DVD could rehab the existing buildings, making a moderate DVC resort. BY charging fewer points per night and utilizing existing buildings, they could drop the minimum buy-in at this resort to less than 100 pts. (allowing DVC to market to a wider range of potential owners) It would provide an alternative for those people that check out of the current DVCs to save weekend points, or allow extended stays for folks that own fewer points. However this would do two things - it would make it difficult for owners at DI to stay at one of the current DVC resorts except for very short intervals and it would make the current 11/7 month window even more important for all DVC Resorts. -or-

3) Create the much rumored DVC-II as moderate style units, having it completely separate from the current DVC system of resorts and not have a direct interchange of points between the two DVC entities, again allowing DVC to market to a wider range of potential owners. They would have their own point systems and purchase price per point. -or-

4) The DI thing could be a complete rumor, or DVC could change plans like they have after previous press relases. Just like they did after announcing the Newport Beach, CA units. In short, don't believe it 'til you see it.

JMO,

 

[Beth]

Is it possible she's taken this info off of her site?

I still see the "DVC News Flash" link on her home page - it takes me to the same page kcritter has above - but, for the life of me, I can't find any of the info you guys are describing...

 

[DVC Chris]

WDWMAGIC has a similar article....

http://www.wdwmagic.com/resorts.htm

 

[Werner Weiss]

This is clearly still a rumor, not official news.

It may happen. It may not happen. As others have pointed out, there doesn't appear to be any official news in the print or online news media. If anything, this could be a leak of some real internal Disney information. Or, of course, it could turn out to be a hoax that's been planted in various places -- including the DIS News and Rumors board, WDWMagic, and Deb's WDWIG -- to make it seem corroborated.

Yes, it's a believable rumor. Let's assume that Disney Vacation Developemnt (DVD) has determined that BCV is likely to sell out before the as-yet-unnamed DVC resort at Eagle Pines Golf Course is ready. And we know that the Orlando Sentinel ran an article in November saying that the Villas at Disney Institute were shut down due to lack of guest demand. Now, imagine if DVD thoroughly renovates some portion of the Villas, and perhaps adds new pools and tears down some building that don't lend themselves to renovation. You could have a new DVC resort in half the time and at half the cost of building from the ground up.

 

[ralphd]

Still think it is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ralphd

 

[Orky15]

perhaps I'm especially guillible, but I buy it!

 

[Shadeaux]

Looks like this is for real:

http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?day0/220242259&ticker=

 

[jjcollins]

Can't say we would interested in adding on at the Disney Institute.


jj......