Dance mom's are wack

[CurlyGirl]

No Vivi...

It's a good thing they don't make costumes Cathy's size as I'm sure she'd be in the mag, trying to upstage the kids, no doubt.

OMG -- I laughed so hard at these comments that I startled my sleeping kitty!

 

[JaneBanks]

They were the worst. What a skanky routine.

How can you tell whether or not they were the "worst" or the routine was "skanky" (they are only children, how can you call what they do skanky?) if they barely show us the routine in the first place?

I've read that you think these girls cannot dance, that they are mediocre at best but I really do not see where you are coming from. Plenty of people on this thread have told you that these girls are very talented at what they do. It seems like you just like to criticize them just for the sake of it.

 

[disneyjunkie]

While I wasn't a fan of the actual routine, or the song... I get what Abby was saying. I don't think it was typecasting, I think it's true- the other girls that do the "ethnic" dances that Nia can do. Meanwhile, Nia can do everything the other girls do and then some. She had a Bollywood number last week that I'm sure could be argued as stereotypical but nobody was complaining because Nia won first place.

I think the moms need to choose their battles a little better. The "Electricity" dance I saw the issue with. Even then, the moms should have spoken up before the competition. If the kids had placed, they wouldn't have been complaining.

That is, if the producers haven't been provoking them, which I wouldn't doubt.

I think Abby is typecasting Nia.

Did anyone notice that during the practice for the Modeling, Nia was the only one she asked about the meaning of her name?

I think it's a good thing that Holly allowed Nia to do that LaQuifia "dance" to prove a point to Abby. The dance was awful and sterotypical. She didn't place that week, but won first place the following week.

But, I don't know anything about competitive dance, but 8-9 years old may too young to start teaching "ethnic" dance. Shouldn't they be polishing the basics?

My nieces(6 and 12) dance. Their school starts teaching African dance (and drums) at 5.

That LaQuifia "dance' didn't have any African dance elements. My nieces watched the show with me and kept saying "where are the African steps"

How can you tell whether or not they were the "worst" or the routine was "skanky" (they are only children, how can you call what they do skanky?) if they barely show us the routine in the first place?

I've read that you think these girls cannot dance, that they are mediocre at best but I really do not see where you are coming from. Plenty of people on this thread have told you that these girls are very talented at what they do. It seems like you just like to criticize them just for the sake of it.

Each week I think the main reason Abby agreed to do the show is to promote her and Maddie. The week the guy from NY was on, Maddie's mom said "he's here to see Maddie!" WTH???? What about the other dancers.


I'm wondering if Vivi is a better dancer than we all think she is. If she's a bad as we all think, why would Cathy take her to the show down? It seems to me she would have her top dancers there to beat Abby's kids. Why take Vivi?? I think she may have hustled Abby to get an up close look at her dancers.

I could be wrong. Maybe Vivi really can't dance and Cathy is just a space cadet.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

How can you tell whether or not they were the "worst" or the routine was "skanky" (they are only children, how can you call what they do skanky?) if they barely show us the routine in the first place?

I've read that you think these girls cannot dance, that they are mediocre at best but I really do not see where you are coming from. Plenty of people on this thread have told you that these girls are very talented at what they do. It seems like you just like to criticize them just for the sake of it.

I can say the were the "worst" because their routine stunk. I can say the routine was "skanky" because it was. I don't need to see the entire routine to tell that little girls in next to nothing straddling a chair and contorting to a song about being someone's "Fantasy Girl" is skanky.

The girls are the victims here to my mind. They look like hard working kids, I have no problem with the kids. I DO have a problem with their witch of a "teacher" and their doormat mothers who let her treat them that way and put them in those awful outfits to writhe on a chair. I didn't realize she was preparing them for Burlesque.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

I think Abby is typecasting Nia.

Did anyone notice that during the practice for the Modeling, Nia was the only one she asked about the meaning of her name?

I think it's a good thing that Holly allowed Nia to do that LaQuifia "dance" to prove a point to Abby. The dance was awful and sterotypical. She didn't place that week, but won first place the following week.




My nieces(6 and 12) dance. Their school starts teaching African dance (and drums) at 5.

That LaQuifia "dance' didn't have any African dance elements. My nieces watched the show with me and kept saying "where are the African steps"

The Laquefa dance I didn't think was supposed to be African in the slightest, it was supposed to be black. African-American. And it wasn't even that, it $ucked big time.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

The Laquefa dance I didn't think was supposed to be African in the slightest, it was supposed to be black. African-American. And it wasn't even that, it $ucked big time.

I agree. I was embarrassed for the kid. Just to be clear, I don't think the girls lack talent, I don't know much of "dance" I just know what I like when I see it. I haven't liked anything I've seen so far. Is it that hard to work up a good dance routine? I mean, if it's your job, shouldn't you be able to do a routine that actually looks good and doesn't have them cavorting around in cheap outfits doing a glorified lap dance?

I think the girls work hard and deserve better. This Abby woman may be cranking out dancers, but I'm not convinced they are high quality ones.

 

[disneyjunkie]

The Laquefa dance I didn't think was supposed to be African in the slightest, it was supposed to be black. African-American. And it wasn't even that, it $ucked big time.

OMG that's even worst. I've never heard of black or African-American dance as a genre.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

OMG that's even worst. I've never heard of black or African-American dance as a genre.

I am not sure it is the name, but I have heard of it. I'm surprised you haven't. It is a legitimate form of dance as any other genre. It is very neat.

I actually took a class once as a kid. I was not very good.

You can google african dance you tube to see some samples. My video player on my computer has issues, otherwise I would post a few. I just hesitate to post something when I cannot see the whole thing though.

The dance Nia was doing--was not really what I had in mind when I heard that Abby Lee was having her do that style of dance. It kind of was more like Soul Train with acrobatics.


Speaking of typecasting--sinful was not what I deemed an "appropriate" dance for the girls, but I thought it was ludicrous that the moms were carrying on as though Abby Lee was sending a message. I agreed with Maddy's mom on that one.

 

[mjkacmom]

OMG that's even worst. I've never heard of black or African-American dance as a genre.

Really? We have a very good dance studio we've been to, and they have a great African dance program:

Wednesday - Prep/Fall
5:00-6:00 pm Modern L-1 Basic Yellow
5:30-7:00 pm Contemporary Modern/Jazz Adv Green
6:15-7:15 pm Tap L-1 Blue 6:30-7:30 pm
Ballet Basic Purple
7:30-8:30 pm Tap L-3 Blue
7:30-8:30 pm Ballet Level 1/2 Purple
7:45-8:45 pm West African Prep/Adult Green

This is just a small section of their junior schedule. It is in a prominant, very diverse community.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Soul train with acrobatics, LOL!

 

[disneyjunkie]

Really? We have a very good dance studio we've been to, and they have a great African dance program:

Wednesday - Prep/Fall
5:00-6:00 pm Modern L-1 Basic Yellow
5:30-7:00 pm Contemporary Modern/Jazz Adv Green
6:15-7:15 pm Tap L-1 Blue 6:30-7:30 pm
Ballet Basic Purple
7:30-8:30 pm Tap L-3 Blue
7:30-8:30 pm Ballet Level 1/2 Purple
7:45-8:45 pm West African Prep/Adult Green

This is just a small section of their junior schedule. It is in a prominant, very diverse community.

I am not sure it is the name, but I have heard of it. I'm surprised you haven't. It is a legitimate form of dance as any other genre. It is very neat.

I actually took a class once as a kid. I was not very good.

You can google african dance you tube to see some samples. My video player on my computer has issues, otherwise I would post a few. I just hesitate to post something when I cannot see the whole thing though.

The dance Nia was doing--was not really what I had in mind when I heard that Abby Lee was having her do that style of dance. It kind of was more like Soul Train with acrobatics.


Speaking of typecasting--sinful was not what I deemed an "appropriate" dance for the girls, but I thought it was ludicrous that the moms were carrying on as though Abby Lee was sending a message. I agreed with Maddy's mom on that one.

Are you kidding. That crap Abby had Nia do was nothing like African dance. Can you imagine an Alvin Aliey or Chuck Davis dancer doing THAT

Of course I've heard of African dance. I've never heard of black or African-American dance.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Are you kidding. That crap Abby had Nia do was nothing like African dance. Can you imagine an Alvin Aliey or Chuck Davis dancer doing THAT

Of course I've heard of African dance. I've never heard of black or African-American dance.

You had me scratching my head for a moment.

In that case, I agree with you.

But with SYTYCD, I have come to know that there are MANY "dance" styles I have not heard of. I still don't get Krump. But hey--it is an acknowledged style even if I can't figure it out. (I think that is the angry hip hop...may be perfect for Abby Lee . Maybe she would be "buck". Her and the dance moms...krumping...)

 

[disneyjunkie]

You had me scratching my head for a moment.

In that case, I agree with you.

But with SYTYCD, I have come to know that there are MANY "dance" styles I have not heard of. I still don't get Krump. But hey--it is an acknowledged style even if I can't figure it out. (I think that is the angry hip hop...may be perfect for Abby Lee . Maybe she would be "buck". Her and the dance moms...krumping...)

I didn't even think of Krump. Maybe Abby is looking at street dances and labeling them ethnic.

I grew up watching Soul Train. That is where we went to learn the latest dances. Now kids go to BET and MTV for that.

My sister and BIL refuse to pay for my nieces to take hip hop. Each year my sister tells them "I'm not paying for something you can learn with family and friends for free!" They take African, Ballet, Horton, Dunham, Jazz...

 

[Tricia1972]

Don't let the appearance fool you--some dance costumes aren't that great in quality. I don't know one catalogue from the other, but I do know that we have had workmanship issues with costumes before that made you wonder who in the world was making these things.

Abby Lee's costumes are custom--and it seems they are just as guilty of quality issues ever now and again.


I only noticed 2 girls (Maddie and Brooke) in the catologue.

Nia and Paige are also there

I saw Mackenzie in there too. She's adorable!

(I also can't turn away from the train wreck)

 

[HonnyDipp]

I'm sick in bed this weekend and I've been watching this mini marathon. I'm DISGUSTED with the adults on this show. Beyond sad.

 

[mjkacmom]

Are you kidding. That crap Abby had Nia do was nothing like African dance. Can you imagine an Alvin Aliey or Chuck Davis dancer doing THAT

Of course I've heard of African dance. I've never heard of black or African-American dance.

Then your head is in the sand. Breakdancing, hip-hopping, krumping, popping, b-boying - all represented on So You Think You Can Dance. Dance, like music, is an art, and is always evolving:

B-boyingFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search
"Breakdance" redirects here. For other uses, see Breakdance (disambiguation).
B-boying


Ryan Grasell in Faneuil Hall, Boston, MA.
Genre Hip-hop dance
Inventor N/A - Street dancers from New York City
Year 1970s
Country United States
Competitions Battle of the Year
The Notorious IBE
R-16 Korea
Red Bull BC One
UK B-boy Championship

B-boying, often called "breakdancing", is a popular style of street dance that was created and developed as part of hip-hop culture among African Americans and Latino youths in New York City.[1]:125, 141, 153 The dance consists of four primary elements: toprock, downrock, power moves and freezes/suicides. It is danced to both hip-hop and other genres of music that are often remixed to prolong the musical breaks. The musical selection for b-boying is not restricted to hip-hop music as long as the tempo and beat pattern conditions are met. A practitioner of this dance is called a b-boy, b-girl, or breaker. These dancers often participate in battles, formal or informal dance competitions between two individuals or two crews. Although the term "breakdance" is frequently used, "b-boying" and "breaking" are the original terms used to refer to the dance. These terms are preferred by the majority of the art form’s pioneers and most notable practitioners.[2][3]

 

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

I'm sick in bed this weekend and I've been watching this mini marathon. I'm DISGUSTED with the adults on this show. Beyond sad.

Same here...feel better.

My niece has danced with ABT and been in Billy Elliot for the last 2 years. Many of the schools were know for questionable costumes.
I sat through so many dance competitions and costumes but that blue costume from the last show was disgusting for those little girls not to mention the choreography.

The thing that gets me is the Moms have a fit after the dance. They paid for the costumes, watched rehearsals & dress rehearsals. How could they not stand up to "Ursala" prior?

 

[Buckalew11]

What happens to these girls at school after being on TV like this? I just can't imagine.

 

[castmember19]

What happens to these girls at school after being on TV like this? I just can't imagine.

I've been wondering about school as well. I can't remember which episode it was but Maddie said something among the lines of dancing from six to ten, and not getting home most nights until eleven forty five. It left me wondering when she had time to do homework or even sleep properly? I wonder if she's homeschooled.

Chloe did say she had a ton of homework in one episode.

One mother did say that they sometimes but dance before school but I can't remember who it was.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Then your head is in the sand. Breakdancing, hip-hopping, krumping, popping, b-boying - all represented on So You Think You Can Dance. Dance, like music, is an art, and is always evolving:

B-boyingFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search
"Breakdance" redirects here. For other uses, see Breakdance (disambiguation).
B-boying


Ryan Grasell in Faneuil Hall, Boston, MA.
Genre Hip-hop dance
Inventor N/A - Street dancers from New York City
Year 1970s
Country United States
Competitions Battle of the Year
The Notorious IBE
R-16 Korea
Red Bull BC One
UK B-boy Championship

B-boying, often called "breakdancing", is a popular style of street dance that was created and developed as part of hip-hop culture among African Americans and Latino youths in New York City.[1]:125, 141, 153 The dance consists of four primary elements: toprock, downrock, power moves and freezes/suicides. It is danced to both hip-hop and other genres of music that are often remixed to prolong the musical breaks. The musical selection for b-boying is not restricted to hip-hop music as long as the tempo and beat pattern conditions are met. A practitioner of this dance is called a b-boy, b-girl, or breaker. These dancers often participate in battles, formal or informal dance competitions between two individuals or two crews. Although the term "breakdance" is frequently used, "b-boying" and "breaking" are the original terms used to refer to the dance. These terms are preferred by the majority of the art form’s pioneers and most notable practitioners.[2][3]

Thanks for the history lesson, but I grew up doing those dances(not krumping) and it didn't cost my parents one dime for me to learn them. I didn't/don't know any kids that couldn't/can't do those dances.

That is just plain old dancing that eveyone I know grew up doing. It's like jumping double dutch. You didn't pay to learn it, you just went out and learned from the other kids on the block.