Dan Murphy, what are you doing???

[WonderfulDreamer2]

And people complain about children being on here and posting...are we not adults ...then lets satrt acting like one...holy crap to get your feelings hurt because you were ignored in a thread...to complain about people being "cliquey"...are you all serious...I have been on and off the Dis since 2001 and have chosen to post on certain threads and chosen to ignore certain threads...in Sept. of 2005 I posted on the original Lush Ladies thread and found a great group of people that I enjoy posting with both here and on other boards...does that make me part of a "clique"...I think not...to me it just means that I found a group of people that I have something in common with...it is mostly laughter...these people make me laugh and we have a good time together both on the Dis and elswhere...for the prior 4 years I just posted regularly on the Transportation, Resort and Theme Parks boards...if someone didn't agree with my opinion on the advice I gave or ignored my posts I didn't run off and pout or flood the board with childish threads...I chalked it up to human nature that all people don't agree...when I started posting on the CB alot of my threads and post were ignored or faded away quickly...again I did not take my ball and go home...I just kept posting because it was fun and relaxing...to all the so called "cliquey" people with your own threads I say more power to you, keep posting and chatting with the people that have the same common interests as you...and to all the Lushes...THANK YOU for making me laugh

Both you and Tigger & Belle make EXCELLENT points. I agree. The people here need to grow up and get over themselves. The world revolves around everyone....not just a certain few who have decided they should have say over whats allowed on a COMMUNITY board and what is not. More power to those who have made good friends here and know how to be adults about the whole situation.

 

[aplejax76]

Both you and Tigger & Belle make EXCELLENT points. I agree. The people here need to grow up and get over themselves. The world revolves around everyone....not just a certain few who have decided they should have say over whats allowed on a COMMUNITY board and what is not. More power to those who have made good friends here and know how to be adults about the whole situation.

Exactly

 

[luvmydogs]

I agree. When you try to jump in, you get yelled at for not reading what was said 3 pages ago.

Now, if you're going to post an opinion like this, then let's be truthful about what actually happened. You posted on one thread a negative opinion of those on another and then were suprised when those you commented on defended themselves. You did not post to "just jump in." You posted your comment to deliberately push buttons--that was extremely obvious. And as I've asked you several times before, would you mind explaining that double standard as to why you can post so negativly about us, but we can't respond in kind?

 

[L107ANGEL]

And people complain about children being on here and posting...are we not adults ...then lets satrt acting like one...holy crap to get your feelings hurt because you were ignored in a thread...to complain about people being "cliquey"...are you all serious...I have been on and off the Dis since 2001 and have chosen to post on certain threads and chosen to ignore certain threads...in Sept. of 2005 I posted on the original Lush Ladies thread and found a great group of people that I enjoy posting with both here and on other boards...does that make me part of a "clique"...I think not...to me it just means that I found a group of people that I have something in common with...it is mostly laughter...these people make me laugh and we have a good time together both on the Dis and elswhere...for the prior 4 years I just posted regularly on the Transportation, Resort and Theme Parks boards...if someone didn't agree with my opinion on the advice I gave or ignored my posts I didn't run off and pout or flood the board with childish threads...I chalked it up to human nature that all people don't agree...when I started posting on the CB alot of my threads and post were ignored or faded away quickly...again I did not take my ball and go home...I just kept posting because it was fun and relaxing...to all the so called "cliquey" people with your own threads I say more power to you, keep posting and chatting with the people that have the same common interests as you...and to all the Lushes...THANK YOU for making me laugh

Another excellent post and we kinda like you too

 

[Tigger&Belle]

I hope I do not offend anyone! That being said, I don't understand why people are getting upset. Dan Murphy started a thread for old time Disers. Tons of posts. Why is that one acceptable and the old drivel thread is not?

What I'm hearing is if you approve of the subject matter its ok on the CB. If not you need to go to a different board.

Then what is acceptable subject matter?

That's exactly what it appears to be. Not with all the posters, of course and probably not with most.

Why does the Chicago thread seem to bother some people??

I have no problem with the Chicago thread! I have no problem with the DIS oldtimers thread. I have no problem with any of the threads, whether they are long "club" type threads or short informational threads. I do wish that the game and exchange threads would be on a different forum because if would be easier for all involved to find what they are looking for (the people who are looking for those threads and the people are not looking for them). But if they stay on the CB, I'm fine with that.

All I'm asking is for the rules to be applied equally and for this passive/aggressive crap to stop. We're talking grown adults who should have some maturity. I expect my 12yo to communicate better than this.

I only brought up the Chicago thread to show that there are lots of long, chatty type threads--I think that they are all wonderful and serve a purpose!
If I'm ever going to be in Chicago, which is a possibility this coming December, I will join in and see if there is a meet planned, etc.



Mayor, Great post!!!

Both you and Tigger & Belle make EXCELLENT points. I agree. The people here need to grow up and get over themselves. The world revolves around everyone....not just a certain few who have decided they should have say over whats allowed on a COMMUNITY board and what is not. More power to those who have made good friends here and know how to be adults about the whole situation.

Thanks!



I still think that so much of this "it was so much better way back when" sounds so much like my mother describing her childhood. I'm sure that there were better things about those days, too, but she seemed to forget the depression, not knowing if there was going to be food on the table, sickness that would take a life, and all the uncertainty. My father seemed to forget his brother that was taken and put in a boys home because his parents couldn't afford to keep both children. But yes, those were the good ole days, weren't they. The kids had respect for their elders, didn't talk back, did what they were told. Yep, great days they were.

No doubt I have fond memories of my childhood that I pass along to my children, mainly the fact that my father was alive then, but I also realize that I'm currently living the gold ole days with my kids. Yes, it was fun when I was a kid, but there were negatives then, too.

Why can't we look back at the earlier DIS days with fondness, but still enjoy what is here and make new happy memories. If a person continually dwells on what they don't have, they're likely to miss the fun times they could be having. Reminds me of the stereotypical grouchy neighbor, staring outside from his couch, just waiting for his flowerbed to be stepped in, as opposed to being the smiling man sitting on the porch, visiting with the neighbors. I'd rather be the one outside visiting with my neighbors.

 

[beattyfamily]

You go Dan!

ITA with the point you were making!!!!

 

[SwedishMeatball]

And people complain about children being on here and posting...are we not adults ...then lets satrt acting like one...holy crap to get your feelings hurt because you were ignored in a thread...to complain about people being "cliquey"...are you all serious...I have been on and off the Dis since 2001 and have chosen to post on certain threads and chosen to ignore certain threads...in Sept. of 2005 I posted on the original Lush Ladies thread and found a great group of people that I enjoy posting with both here and on other boards...does that make me part of a "clique"...I think not...to me it just means that I found a group of people that I have something in common with...it is mostly laughter...these people make me laugh and we have a good time together both on the Dis and elswhere...for the prior 4 years I just posted regularly on the Transportation, Resort and Theme Parks boards...if someone didn't agree with my opinion on the advice I gave or ignored my posts I didn't run off and pout or flood the board with childish threads...I chalked it up to human nature that all people don't agree...when I started posting on the CB alot of my threads and post were ignored or faded away quickly...again I did not take my ball and go home...I just kept posting because it was fun and relaxing...to all the so called "cliquey" people with your own threads I say more power to you, keep posting and chatting with the people that have the same common interests as you...and to all the Lushes...THANK YOU for making me laugh

You're my hero.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

You go Dan!

ITA with the point you were making!!!!

So what kind of threads would pass your test of community forum worthy threads? And what if I don't like your choice? Can I veto and take some of your choices off? And if poster C doesn't like our narrowing list--can they remove some? Gets to be a very narrow list of acceptable topics. That's fine on the other forums where there are specific topics, but here in a general area, I don't get it. It's a slippery slope.

 

[FSUMARCHIEF]

I posted this on the other "What's going on with Dan Murphy Thread", and just thought I would post it on here too. I put it here too because some of the same comments about cliques and such have appeared on this thread as well, and I just wanted to have my say...



I tried to resist temptation and not post on here, but I just can't help myself. First, let me identify myself, because I'm certain most folks posting on this thread don't know me. I am a part of the Maelstrom folks. I haven't been a part of the DIS community that long - I certainly wasn't "here way back when."

Here's my thoughts. I came here because my wife had found the DIS and told me about it. When I first started, I lurked exclusively on the Theme Parks board, Resorts Board, and the Dining Board. Then she put me onto a very entertaining trip report. I never came to the community Board until a particular thread was moved over here because it was no longer appropriate for the Trip Report Board. Frankly, I didn't come to the CB because it scared me. There were/are some really funky topics over here. But, to each his own, right?

Now that I am here, I don't click on the threads that don't interest me. I click on the ones that do. Interestingly enough, I have found a place on the Maelstrom threads where I have met people that I consider friends. My wife and I have had lunch with a couple of them them. One of them has been to my church. More lunches are scheduled and a big meet at Disney World is on the calendar.

WHat could be more appropriate for a community board than that? In my mind it would seem that a community boad is a place to build community - to build friendships. All the "old posters" seem to have that and want to go back to the way things were. When all that has happened with the 'shameful' clique threads is that the same type of relationships they built years ago have now been built by new people.

It reminds me of things that happen in my church. When those who have been there for a long time say things like, "We've never done it that way before." Or "I don't like having all these new people here, cause I don't know anyone." Well, it's a load of garbage to me. The whole purpose of a church is to build God's Kingdom - which requires new people. What has caused people to turn away from churches is because the long time people don't want the new people around cause it makes them lose their control and influence, and position. To me that is ridiculous - and I don't do well with that kind of attitude - which is probably why I couldn't resist posting on this thread.

Has the Maelstrom thread become a clique? Maybe? I don't see it that way - From my memory of things, most new posters have been welcomed with open arms. With the possible exception of posters who post like 50 times in 1 hour. That is a little annoying.

What I'm trying to say is this. All these little comments about clique threads and such - isnt' the community board supposed to build community? It has for me. All the complaints about the Board not being the way it was - to me sounds like those folks in my church who complain because the fact that we have tons of children means that the floor gets marked up and things get broken every once in a while.

If things don't change, then they die with those who began them. Change, sometimes is not a bad thing. I am one who has benefitted from the "changes on the CB." Perhaps I'm one to whom a little bit of blame could be tossed at.

Short and simple, if you don't like a thread, the only person forcing you to click on it is you.

I wonder how many flames I'll get?!

Blessings!
Mark

 

[cardaway]

To the people who have seen it before it all isn't that much different.

God bless most of you.

 

[auntpolly]

I would just like to say that even the word "clique" gives me bad flashbacks of all the people who made high school terrible -- people that really want to be part of a clique need to grow up. Sorry.

That doesn't mean you can't have friends here -- I think so many of the friendships I see here are so sweet. It's just that when they start looking like power trips with the "popular crowd" -- oh well, I was happy to leave that behind when I left HS and I'm not interested in reviving it now.

Not all the threads that people might refer to as "clique" threads are like this, but sometimes it's like, hey you aren't the only people here, ya know? Specially when they hijack another thread and turn it into a clique thread.

Whatever Dan was doing, I thought it was hilarious -- and I don't even know he meant it to be.

 

[disykat]

I pm Dan and talked to him and he was trying to make a point that a few years ago the DIS was a fun place where everybody chitchatted and stuff and now there are all sorts of groups and fighting going on that he got tired of it all and that is why I think he did what he did today, to try to bring us all back together like they were in the past.

Yes! In that case, I'm totally with you! It's not about the long club threads. It's easy to stay away from those. But when you start clicking on threads thinking you're going to be discussing something and discover it's a small group of people making inside jokes - it gets old. That's what pms and IMs are for!

I agree with others. When I first started here in 2000, there were lots of friends - but they managed their friendships in a way that welcomed others and kept other stuff to chat and pms. I think a large group of people have changed that.

It may be whining, but apparently I'm not alone feeling that way.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

I would just like to say that even the word "clique" gives me bad flashbacks of all the people who made high school terrible -- people that really want to be part of a clique need to grow up. Sorry.

That doesn't mean you can't have friends here -- I think so many of the friendships I see here are so sweet. It's just that when they start looking like power trips with the "popular crowd" -- oh well, I was happy to leave that behind when I left HS and I'm not interested in reviving it now.

Not all the threads that people might refer to as "clique" threads are like this, but sometimes it's like, hey you aren't the only people here, ya know? Specially when they hijack another thread and turn it into a clique thread.

Whatever Dan was doing, I thought it was hilarious -- and I don't even know he meant it to be.

Well I think that Rob would be having a swell time on the CB and running all over the place hijacking threads with his hilarious one liners. Then he'd kick back after some good belly laughs and ask somebody to pour him a drink. Now Laura, well I imagine her whining and carrying on about how nobody will talk to her and she doesn't feel like she fits in and boofrigginhoo. Anyway, just my opinion of what I think they'd do.

 

[auntpolly]

Well I think that Rob would be having a swell time on the CB and running all over the place hijacking threads with his hilarious one liners. Then he'd kick back after some good belly laughs and ask somebody to pour him a drink. Now Laura, well I imagine her whining and carrying on about how nobody will talk to her and she doesn't feel like she fits in and boofrigginhoo. Anyway, just my opinion of what I think they'd do.

Who's Rob? I'm not even sure what you are talking about -- not in the clique, ya know.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

Who's Rob? I'm not even sure what you are talking about -- not in the clique, ya know.

Its in your own sig.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Who's Rob? I'm not even sure what you are talking about -- not in the clique, ya know.

Holy crap, are you blonde??

 

[auntpolly]

oh, that Rob. Ok, I guess he'd have fun doing that....

 

[grinningghost]

I wasn't around last night to experience all this insanity, but I've certainly heard about it.

My thoughts are, the clique threads are great. They have a place here. Some have been going strong for years and people have developed friendships from them. These types of threads also keep the in-jokes and private innuendo out of the general thread count.

It's when the in-jokes migrate into regular threads that things get messy. There's simply no need for that. Yes, everyone occasionally hijacks a thread, usually without even realizing it - but that's excusable, because it's not blatent and constant.

It's when people purposely use a thread to play "inside" games with each other - that's just not cool people.

I'm no mod, but sometimes, I wish I were.

If Dan appeared to be taking over the board, I'm sure it was to prove a point. He's been around a long time, and has seen the board morph in and out of normalcy several times - I think he's just growing tired of it.

 

[KristaTX]

It reminds me of things that happen in my church. When those who have been there for a long time say things like, "We've never done it that way before." Or "I don't like having all these new people here, cause I don't know anyone." Well, it's a load of garbage to me. The whole purpose of a church is to build God's Kingdom - which requires new people. What has caused people to turn away from churches is because the long time people don't want the new people around cause it makes them lose their control and influence, and position. To me that is ridiculous - and I don't do well with that kind of attitude - which is probably why I couldn't resist posting on this thread.

Has the Maelstrom thread become a clique? Maybe? I don't see it that way - From my memory of things, most new posters have been welcomed with open arms. With the possible exception of posters who post like 50 times in 1 hour. That is a little annoying.

What I'm trying to say is this. All these little comments about clique threads and such - isnt' the community board supposed to build community? It has for me. All the complaints about the Board not being the way it was - to me sounds like those folks in my church who complain because the fact that we have tons of children means that the floor gets marked up and things get broken every once in a while.

If things don't change, then they die with those who began them. Change, sometimes is not a bad thing. I am one who has benefitted from the "changes on the CB." Perhaps I'm one to whom a little bit of blame could be tossed at.

Short and simple, if you don't like a thread, the only person forcing you to click on it is you.

I wonder how many flames I'll get?!

You won't get any flames from me. I feel the same way, and have even discussed this with my husband and made the church comparison. The DIS is simply an assembly of people much like a town or a church or a workplace or a school. As the group grows, sub-groups will form and arguments will be had, but hopefully overall it is a good, fun, and welcoming place to be.

I don't mind some chit chat or just plain goofy threads, but I do get tired of topical threads being taken over and off topic by jokesters and chit-chatters. And I do wish my threads about "real" topics didn't get bumped down to page 2 or 3 so quickly because of all the stickies plus the games plus the conversation threads. It is solely the total # of those threads that is a problem for me - not the threads in and of themselves.

I wish there was a place to move threads that get over a set # of pages up at the top where the birthday/Katrina/military threads are - like maybe threads over 100 pages are moved over there (i.e. games, groups). If people want to be a part of those threads, they'll know where to find them.

HOWEVER, more than the minor inconveniences of threads getting lost or taken over, I get even more tired of hearing people complain about how things just aren't the same as they used to be on the CB, on the DIS, in chat, etc. I've been around for quite a while, and I have probably met a hundred or more DISers. I'm real life friends with many from around the country, I'm friendly acquaintances with dozens of others, and I plan our local DIS meets. But when that kind of talk about the "glory days" of the DIS comes up, it just makes me roll my eyes . Talk about making a huge # of people (including me) feel like unwanted outsiders.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

My thoughts are, the clique threads are great. They have a place here. Some have been going strong for years and people have developed friendships from them. These types of threads also keep the in-jokes and private innuendo out of the general thread count.

It's when the in-jokes migrate into regular threads that things get messy. There's simply no need for that. Yes, everyone occasionally hijacks a thread, usually without even realizing it - but that's excusable, because it's not blatent and constant.

It's when people purposely use a thread to play "inside" games with each other - that's just not cool people.

That pretty much parallels my take on things too