Damar Hamlin - prayers

[mumto3girls]

I had a lot of friends at the game too. They were all shook.

I am so glad they postponed the game. All you needed to see was the players faces to know this was not your typical sports injury. Seeing Josh Allen on the bench staring in disbelief and numerous players crying … it was tough to watch from home.

And bless those players for creating privacy for Damar Hamlin. Nobody needed to witness the life saving efforts they were providing. And yes, I’m grateful they didn’t show him collapsing over and over again. There was no need. (I’m still mad at NBC for showing that luge accident that killed an athlete at the 2012 Olympics. It’s grotesque, and terribly cruel to his family.)

I haven’t always been keen of Bengals fans - they threw beer bottles at Ben Roethlisberger before - but they redeemed themselves with this. They realized the gravity of the situation and took this kid into their hearts.

I know this situation had no positives, but it is wonderful to see that our country got it right and realized this young man was more important than a football game. Sadly, if you would’ve given me this scenario before yesterday I wouldn’t have believed that no one was mad about ending the game. Thank goodness common sense still exists … our society scares me at times with priorities, but we got this right.

My prayers are with this young man for a full and speedy recovery. From what I have seen and read, he sounds like a class act.

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Great post. I also was impressed with the players on both teams, coaches and fans. And I am very much hoping this young man makes a full recovery as quickly as possible. I wasn’t really aware of him before this, but my husband was and he is, for us, a hometown kid who has already tried to do a lot to improve the lives of others. I have been thinking a lot about his mom today and how she is coping.

 

[AgentMama]

Have been reading a lot about Damar's injury and treatment. Sounds like the sedation could also be as they treat him to try to prevent reperfusion injury. Obviously without another update, everything is speculation, but I can't stop thinking about this poor kid and hoping for the best possible outcome for him.

People definitely have very strong feelings about the safety of the game. Safety in sports and our everyday lives is such a constant evolution, and while I feel like there have been some major misses this year on safety protocols (Miami's QB with concussions, and just this weekend another player who clearly had a concussion with a teammate calling it out on the line of scrimmage), this incident seems like a freak accident. I once read that playing in the NFL is equal to being in a major car accident every week. I have no idea how some of the players get up after some of the hits they makenor take. But the tackle he made on Higgins seemed "normal".

The speed of which everyone recognized there was a serious incident and acted to help, hopefully will provide the best outcome.

I keep hoping to have a more definitive, positive update soon.

 

[kymom99]

Have been reading a lot about Damar's injury and treatment. Sounds like the sedation could also be as they treat him to try to prevent reperfusion injury. Obviously without another update, everything is speculation, but I can't stop thinking about this poor kid and hoping for the best possible outcome for him.

People definitely have very strong feelings about the safety of the game. Safety in sports and our everyday lives is such a constant evolution, and while I feel like there have been some major misses this year on safety protocols (Miami's QB with concussions, and just this weekend another player who clearly had a concussion with a teammate calling it out on the line of scrimmage), this incident seems like a freak accident. I once read that playing in the NFL is equal to being in a major car accident every week. I have no idea how some of the players get up after some of the hits they makenor take. But the tackle he made on Higgins seemed "normal".

The speed of which everyone recognized there was a serious incident and acted to help, hopefully will provide the best outcome.

I keep hoping to have a more definitive, positive update soon.

My brother was in his 60s when he went into cardiac arrest at the gym. He was using a stationary bike to prepare his legs for knee replacement. He said he was not overly exerting himself. He slumped over and luckily for him, an off duty fireman was on a treadmill nearby. He immediately started CPR, they used the paddles and got him quickly into an ambulance and to the hospital. He was put on a vent and sedated. We were told he was very critical and his kids drove in from out of town. It took a little time but he made a complete recovery. They still don’t know what caused him to go into arrest. No blockages, nothing. He now has a defibrillator.

 

[soccerdad72]

There are reports out there saying that they’re starting to wean him off oxygen. Sounds promising.

 

[ChrisFL]

I'm overwhelmed by the amount of the support shown so far in so many places for him...feels like a true coming together/healing moment for people right now.

 

[Moliphino]

My brother was in his 60s when he went into cardiac arrest at the gym. He was using a stationary bike to prepare his legs for knee replacement. He said he was not overly exerting himself. He slumped over and luckily for him, an off duty fireman was on a treadmill nearby. He immediately started CPR, they used the paddles and got him quickly into an ambulance and to the hospital. He was put on a vent and sedated. We were told he was very critical and his kids drove in from out of town. It took a little time but he made a complete recovery. They still don’t know what caused him to go into arrest. No blockages, nothing. He now has a defibrillator.

My dad was 70 walking through the hospital on his way to donate blood when he had his cardiac arrest (sudden complete blockage of an artery) and collapsed in front of the gift shop. There was an ER doctor walking right behind him who jumped into action immediately or he probably wouldn't be here today. He was sedated and on a ventilator for about a day. Once he woke up he had a memory like Dory for a few days.

 

[kymom99]

My dad was 70 walking through the hospital on his way to donate blood when he had his cardiac arrest (sudden complete blockage of an artery) and collapsed in front of the gift shop. There was an ER doctor walking right behind him who jumped into action immediately or he probably wouldn't be here today. He was sedated and on a ventilator for about a day. Once he woke up he had a memory like Dory for a few days.

My brother was very combative for a while. He was on the ventilator more than a day. In fact they inserted the defibrillator while he was still on it and still under sedation. Every time they tried to remove the sedation he got combative. He also had broken ribs from the CPR. He was in a bad way for a bit. After he was off all the supports they sent him to a rehab. This all happened in the weeks between thanksgiving and Christmas 3 years ago (pre Covid). He and my SIL hosted Christmas that year.

 

[Disney loving Iowan]

Rough day yesterday between what happened to Hamlin and Jeremy Renner. Sounds like Renner is doing well. Hopefully both of them will fully recover.

 

[Babs Johnson]

I've read people taking the league to task for waiting almost an hour to postpone the game. To that, all I have to say is "hindsight is 20/20".

I read one story from a Seattle Seahawks reporter absolutely eviscerating the NFL in generał and Roger Goodall in particular for not canceling the game immediately After the incident. Practically every comment on the article agrees with you.

As for showing replays, I don’t think it was particularly gruesome to watch. A run of the mill tackle and the player collapsing soon after getting up. I’ve seen much worse injuries replayed ad nauseum.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

My brother was in his 60s when he went into cardiac arrest at the gym. He was using a stationary bike to prepare his legs for knee replacement. He said he was not overly exerting himself. He slumped over and luckily for him, an off duty fireman was on a treadmill nearby. He immediately started CPR, they used the paddles and got him quickly into an ambulance and to the hospital. He was put on a vent and sedated. We were told he was very critical and his kids drove in from out of town. It took a little time but he made a complete recovery. They still don’t know what caused him to go into arrest. No blockages, nothing. He now has a defibrillator.

My dad was 70 walking through the hospital on his way to donate blood when he had his cardiac arrest (sudden complete blockage of an artery) and collapsed in front of the gift shop. There was an ER doctor walking right behind him who jumped into action immediately or he probably wouldn't be here today. He was sedated and on a ventilator for about a day. Once he woke up he had a memory like Dory for a few days.

I’m glad they’re both ok. These types of cases are very common and make up much of what we see in cardiac care. But we also see those rare and unusual cases like this one being discussed - a little bit of everything under the sun.

I remember one person this happened to while he was in an underwater cave in a non-US country. His diving buddies managed to get him out and resuscitate him, and he was flown home on a medi-vac flight. The minor problem he had with his heart was fixed and he walked out saying he couldn’t wait to dive again! Someone was watching over him that day!

I admitted a man in his 50s one night, he was from another country. On a work trip, he was at a dinner with coworkers when he cardiac arrested. They started CPR, activated the EMS and got him to the hospital. He kept saying he couldn’t believe it. Funny thing was that, the day before, he’d been in a third world country. Had it not happened in Boston the outcome may have been very different.

There is this other story in the news, a young guy in his 30s cardiac arrested on the sidewalk after having dinner with his wife. (It’s in the news because apparently they‘d left their two young children alone in a hotel room and now the wife is under arrest for that!) It’s too bad he wasn’t one of the lucky ones who could be resuscitated. You just never know.

https://radaronline.com/p/dax-tejera-widow-claims-couple-left-children-at-hotel/

 

[EACarlson]

In the small amount of good to come from this incident department: Hamlin's charity has raised over $5,000,000 in the 35 hours since his injury. That will buy a lot of Christmas presents and a lot of school supplies for kids in his hometown.

 

[Moliphino]

My brother was very combative for a while. He was on the ventilator more than a day. In fact they inserted the defibrillator while he was still on it and still under sedation. Every time they tried to remove the sedation he got combative. He also had broken ribs from the CPR. He was in a bad way for a bit. After he was off all the supports they sent him to a rehab. This all happened in the weeks between thanksgiving and Christmas 3 years ago (pre Covid). He and my SIL hosted Christmas that year.

My dad's was just before covid really hit the US (February 2020), another blessing because there were no covid restrictions in place at the hospital yet. I think the broken ribs were the most painful part for my dad, partly because he could never remember to hug the little pillow they gave him to hold the ribs in place when he coughed (because of the short term memory issues after sedation).

 

[crazymomof4]

There are reports out there saying that they’re starting to wean him off oxygen. Sounds promising.

The uncle reported that they dropped the % of oxygen delivered from 100% to 50%. 100% is commonly delivered pre and post intubation but it's never a long term option. Room air is 21%. So, 100% O2 is A LOT higher and very damaging to lung tissue. Keeping him at that % could lead to complications that would severely derail his hopes for recovery. Doctors *have to* dial the % down and 50% is common for ventilated patients. It's a shame the media is leading with "Positive update on ....". I hope for and check several times a day for some positive news on this young man but the % decrease is standard (and required) practice. Unfortunately not a sign of early improvement.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

The uncle reported that they dropped the % of oxygen delivered from 100% to 50%. 100% is commonly delivered pre and post intubation but it's never a long term option. Room air is 21%. So, 100% O2 is A LOT higher and very damaging to lung tissue. Keeping him at that % could lead to complications that would severely derail his hopes for recovery. Doctors *have to* dial the % down and 50% is common for ventilated patients. It's a shame the media is leading with "Positive update on ....". I hope for and check several times a day for some positive news on this young man but the % decrease is standard (and required) practice. Unfortunately not a sign of early improvement.

Good explanation, thanks

 

[TLSnell1981]

The uncle reported that they dropped the % of oxygen delivered from 100% to 50%. 100% is commonly delivered pre and post intubation but it's never a long term option. Room air is 21%. So, 100% O2 is A LOT higher and very damaging to lung tissue. Keeping him at that % could lead to complications that would severely derail his hopes for recovery. Doctors *have to* dial the % down and 50% is common for ventilated patients. It's a shame the media is leading with "Positive update on ....". I hope for and check several times a day for some positive news on this young man but the % decrease is standard (and required) practice. Unfortunately not a sign of early improvement.

Standard procedure is being tolerated by Hamlin and his vitals are being reported as normal. His family will take this as a positive sign no matter how slight the "improvement" or "stable" he is at the moment. I've read they performed CPR for almost ten minutes before his heart restarted. Although I'm not sure how long it took to begin CPR. Regardless my thoughts and prayers are with #3 and his loved ones.

 

[crazymomof4]

Standard procedure is being tolerated by Hamlin and his vitals are being reported as normal. His family will take this as a positive sign no matter how slight the "improvement" or "stable" he is at the moment. I've read they performed CPR for almost ten minutes before his heart restarted. Although I'm not sure how long it took to begin CPR. Regardless my thoughts and prayers are with #3 and his loved ones.

Yes. I too am concerned with how long he was in a hypoxic state. CPR certainly saves lives but it can't deliver the level of circulation/oxygen that the body (esp the brain) needs. Post-hypoxic events carry with them their own set of complications, some major. He has youth + we can assume, better than avg fitness/health on his side. Hoping for some really good news soon. I feel for his family.

 

[C&Jx2]

Yes. I too am concerned with how long he was in a hypoxic state. CPR certainly saves lives but it can't deliver the level of circulation/oxygen that the body (esp the brain) needs. Post-hypoxic events carry with them their own set of complications, some major. He has youth + we can assume, better than avg fitness/health on his side. Hoping for some really good news soon. I feel for his family.

I often have patients with hypoxic brain injuries. His age is in his favor but he was down for 10-20mins (I see conflicting reports). That’s not great…Those kinds of injuries don’t have a great prognosis.

 

[leahgoogle]

I often have patients with hypoxic brain injuries. His age is in his favor but he was down for 10-20mins (I see conflicting reports). That’s not great…Those kinds of injuries don’t have a great prognosis.

I mentioned this to my husband while the game was suspended. It is concerning for sure

 

[crazymomof4]

I often have patients with hypoxic brain injuries. His age is in his favor but he was down for 10-20mins (I see conflicting reports). That’s not great…Those kinds of injuries don’t have a great prognosis.

Yep. As a healthcare professional, sometimes you hate that the facts are there, racing through your head. You fear you will come across as a pessimist. You'd much rather be blissfully unaware! I really really hope his story ends as one of those "remarkable, unheard of recoveries"! His age is smack in the middle of my youngest two kids. So I keep thinking how, in the eyes of his mom..... That's her baby!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

he was down for 10-20mins (I see conflicting reports).

Gosh I just can't imagine being down for 20mins. I thought 10mins (or thereabouts) was already awful.