'cutting' in line

[phamton]

I don't have a problem when someone leaves the line and then comes back, as long as they were in line already. I don't like it when family members catch up to someone who has been holding a spot. My opinion is that you all get in line together. If you have to park your stroller and your party is already in line, then they should join you at the back of the line when you get there.

I very seldom say anything though. Only twice have I spoken up. Once was at Dinosaur when a girl of about 7 years old, inched her way up to the front of the line and then called her family to join her. I told her that she should go back to where her family was. She didn't and her family of 5 joined her in front of us. I whispered to the CM and she made them wait. The second time was at the Mummy at Universal. One man was in front of us for several minutes with no one behind us. Then his 4 friends came up behind us. They then walked in front of us to join their friend. When it was time to the load the cars, I told the ride Op that we were in front of them, so he loaded us next.

 

[Feelin' Goofy]

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Why is it only acceptable if a small child has a bathroom emergency?

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I don't think people like to try to explain the getting out of line deal to thier kids so I can overlook this but IMO when they get about 3 or 4 they should be tought that they will have to wait all over again and the emerency will be a lot less. Adults should know better.Even if you have to go a lot to the RRoom then go before you get in line (yes I am one that has to go very often and you wont chatch me shoving through a line) Also apparently a lot of the ones that say that that the large groups only happen once per visit haven't been during spring break as this does happen more than once per day for any family and this does cut into your ride time that you have paid as much for as they do!

 

[Wild4WDW]

The only time this was a real problem for me there was a group of teenage kids following a group leader with a flag. The teenagers were spread out over approx 50 yards. My family & our friends, totalling 10 people, got in the Runaway Train line after the first 5 in this group since the others were farther behind. The teenagers behind us kept trying to get past us but we refused to let them by, the first 5 should have moved back with their group not the other way around. Once we got under the cover & the lines began to zig zag all the teenagers ended up crawling over & through the line dividers, eventually the entire group of at least 30 people ended up in front of us. This was definetly my worst Disney experience and certainly gave me a sense of "line rage". The rest of that day we tried as well as possible to avoid the flag carrying groups.
With that being said, I have never stopped 1 or 2 people from catching up to a group, even though it annoys me.

 

[frogfuzz]

Wild4..Oh the flag carriers.....I hate it when they get to the entrance and block the entrance and hold all back and let their party thru. And convientley do not speak English .

 

[jann1033]

I could be mistaken but I thought disney said "no line cutting"( since this is the only amusement park we go to and i remember reading it, i'm guessing it was here) so it seems like that is the answer.
i just don't understand why it would not show a lack of common courtesy...why would a group of 2 or 30 enter a line when their whole group wasn't there if they wanted to ride together. they have a line so people get on the ride in the order they got there. if not why bother to line up at all. if you get in line and your family comes later, go back through the line and wait with them, or better yet don't get in line till everyone is there .why should everyone who got there and waited. like they are supposed to, have to wait longer for some line jumping late comers to ride first. if something happened and we had to have some of our party get out of line we would either all get out or they would ride later( gives us a chance to go again ) i just don't see why others would feel they are entitled to skip ahead..do they do that at the bank or supemarket???
and most kids can sit long enough to watch a tv program or video without having to go to the rush to the bath room midway so take them before lining up, problem solved! if the kid has that weak a bladder, take them to the Dr.

 

[donmil723]

SkylarkD and mmccoy--Thanks for letting me know I wasn't the only one this has happened to. Your replies made me feel better.

Donna

 

[Kay1]

I disagree with the anti-bathroom posters. It's true one can use the bathroom before getting in a line, but what if the ride goes down and one chooses to wait for its repair? That wait can go on for quite some time. I would never begrudge someone taking a quick bathroom break then coming back to his or her spot. What's it to me?

 

[Feelin' Goofy]

the major amount of people leave (I have seen this at Spring Break) and there are usually only a handful of people left so I would see no problem as you would not climb over and around a lot of people. But if the crowd comes back before they do then it is the same as the other people that left and came back to wait again - the one that got out of line should wait too.

How would people feel if they camped out all nite for a special event and thought they would get their tickets then a line holder called in his/hers buddies and they got the last tickets. Think about this.

 

[gjerseygirl]

Originally posted by ChuckGA
I think that is an very unfair characterization of people who have been standing in line properly and are wondering what makes you so special that you can cut in front of them. I'm glad you will not try to "get a head start" again (who needs FOTL or FP, just use place holder) but I hope you also realize that you were not an "honest soul" in that situation but a run of the mill place holder / line cutter. If you had left the line for child related issue / emergency that is a completely different situation.

Chuck

While I agree that Chrisn's DH should have waited for for the entire party to get on line, I think her characterization of the people was very fair. She and her DD did not deserve to get abused or cursed at and anyone who thinks that that is okay, should not be going to Disney. That's not the type of people we want coming there, so stay home, or go to Six Flags wit the riff raff, there's lots of cursing and fighting going on there.

On that note (sorry, couldn't let that one go by without a comment) I plan on doing lots of baby swapping. My 7 year old will not be going on alot of the rides that the rest of us will be going on. So how does that work? Am I supposed to leave him standing in the corner by himself while the rest of us ride the ride together, or do one of us have to ride alone all the time? If a family member gets back on after they ride to ride with the person that didn't go on yet, are people going to pitch a hissy??

 

[tinawv]

Originally posted by gjerseygirl
That's not the type of people we want coming there, so stay home, or go to Six Flags wit the riff raff, there's lots of cursing and fighting going on there.

This also seems to be an unfair characterization to me. I have been to a Six Flags, and do not consider myself riff raff. You can find this anywhere. As far as people holding places for only 1 or 2 people, if several families do this you could be back 20 or 30 spaces before you know it. I do understand the emergency situations, and that is no problem for me. When we were at WDW, if we couldn't go on the ride at the same time we just waited until we were all able to. No matter how you look at its not fair. I think ChuckGA hit it right on the dot.

 

[The Sweetness]

How would people feel if they camped out all nite for a special event and thought they would get their tickets then a line holder called in his/hers buddies and they got the last tickets. Think about this. [/B]

I completely disagree that DH or DD leaving the line (if its a long one) to use a restroom or get a Coke is the same as that. Unless a CM tells us that this isnt allowed, I will continue to do it, and certainly not mind if others do the same.

 

[Autumngirl]

I think the problem is....95% of the castmembers WON'T say anything unless prodded...THAT'S why people in line are saying things....because castmembers aren't doing anything.

We don't line cut... if one person goes to the bathroom, we all wait... if one person gets a soda/water/churro we all wait. And I've watched SM go from empty to 60 people in the time it takes my DH to get out of the bathroom... frustrating ...yes.... but it doesn't give me the right to "hold" a place in line for him.

I don't think it's right... I think it's rude, inconsiderate and has an air of "entitlement".

For all you line cutters who think it's "ok" or "your right" because someone was holding your place.... you don't have to worry about us saying anything... we won't confront you.... but we make sure that our kids know that was you did was WRONG, RUDE and ignorant, no matter how you dress it up.

 

[jann1033]

Originally posted by The Sweetness
Unless a CM tells us that this isnt allowed, I will continue to do it, and certainly not mind if others do the same.

does anyone know the "official" disney stand on this cause I could have sworn I saw signs posted to the effect that line jumping= park removal...think I remember it due to the fact i thought "about time". i looked in the maps and it wasn't there so maybe I dreamed it

 

[Missy1961]

For the poster asking about baby swap, I believe it works if the chold is too small to ride, not if they don't want to. But this is what happens:
you tell the CM that you want to do baby swap. At least one person stays with the child, but you could have a few wait. You are escorted with the child off to the side (or given a "baby swap" ticket--at least that what happened at Splash Mountain) and after they ride the ride, they meet you were you waited, and then you ride while they wait.

 

[chrisn]

Use it if either your child is too little or is too scared to go. Yes a parent and/or other guardian stays with them. The parent/guardian then switch places. This is how we did it:

Family of four. DH, Me, DD and DS who was 2 the first time we went. DH or I would stay with DS in the swap area then we would switch and DD would get to ride everything twice. Nobody threw a hissy and the castmembers said it was fine because then nobody has to ride by themselves, everyone has a buddy.

 

[chrisn]

We don't go to the movie's often but usually only to the blockbusters like Harry Potter, Spiderman, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars etc. To get a good seat, we have to get to the theater in our area about 2-2 1/2 hours before the show. Usually, we are like maybe the 20th people in line. By the time they actually let us in to queue inside the building, there are 50 people in line because all the families have shown up at the end not wanting to wait. Yes, it's a little irritating but I would never say anything or make nasty comments or confront someone. They also only let one person save 2 seats each. There are some who will try to save an entire row of theater seats. One person saving an entire row is not right. One person saving two seats is not a problem and these rules are posted on the door every time. I guess this boils down to what your personal opinions are. If there is no written rule that flat out says you may not save a spot in line for ANY reason, then it's just a personal decision and you'll have to live with any consequences that arrise. If there is a written rule, then people should not do this, it's a rule but then again, there are always rule breakers out there just like at the movies. I personally do not have a problem with a mom and young child catching up with dad for whatever reason. Drink, potty, ect. but that's just my feeling and I know others have their feelings too and that's what makes "The World" go round. Just don't be nasty for criminy sakes. If you want to roll your eyeballs, then keep it to yourselves and keep your potty mouths closed. I am going to Disney for a fun family "Magical" time and some people can make the fun not so "Magical"

 

[madscrapper]

Wow...I never thought I'd read such comments about making children wait to go to the bathroom. First off, children have a very difficult time "holding it" because they often don't say they have to go until they HAVE TO go. And it's unhealthy for children and adults to "hold it".

I have always been able to visit in WDW in the off-season and the lines are few and far between. Maybe I'd be in favor of making kids have accidents if I visited in the summer months.

As a previous poster said, and I paraphrase, life isn't fair and it's vacation. Someone taking their child to the bathroom or an adult going to the bathroom or getting a drink (in preparation of having to go to the bathroom in the next line) isn't going to make that much of a difference. And yes, there is a difference between that and a group "catching up"

Maybe my children will learn to be tolerant of others and be glad they have don't have "weak bladder

 

[momshark]

I get the feeling that some of these posters with comments about children do not actually have children of their own. When we went to WDW just recently I was the only adult w/ DS6, DD13, and her BF13. Of course we were on the buddy system, so when DS started getting thirsty and whiney 45 minutes into our 60 minute plus wait for Test Track I had to send the girls on a water run for the sake of everyone in line. You see my DS is also ADHD and can become quite vocal. But, we had also been waiting together to start with. Our water bottles were in the stroller, parked at the ride exit, and yes, we had already finished off one large bottle while in the outdoor, 95 degree heat. Oh, and heat = water drinking = potty time.
There are plenty of invisible "emergency" or "medical" reasons for allowing one member of the party out of and then back into the line. I don't think I need to explain to everyone that my son is ADHD or that I have a sensitive stomach that may have a reaction 20 minutes after I eat something (while I'm in line, of course).
To all of those people who allowed my girls to get back into their places in line - THANK YOU!!! To all of those whom we happily allowed back to their places - NO PROBLEM, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
We did not ever have a problem with ourselves or others who were already in line for a good amount of time.

PS - I also met alot of very nice people while in line because we chatted about our trip, rides to go on, special things to do, etc.... It was great!!!

 

[jann1033]

Originally posted by madscrapper
Wow...I never thought I'd read such comments about making children wait to go to the bathroom.


i don't think the issue was ever making kids wait to go ,it was, if you reread the first one , about someone wondering if someone in their group could go get a FP( i'm guessing for another ride, don't believe they specified that) then meet them already in line

then the subject of kids and the potty stop came up...still not about making them wait but should everyone get out of line with them or can they cut back in line, then could they get a drink,hairwrap, what ever, send someone else on ahead then all join him/her in line.

in all the times we were at disney, my kids never had to go mid wait cause we planned "ahead" and went to the bathroom, got a drink what ever, "first" before we actually entered the line...how novel! if I remember correctly doesn't it usually say how long a wait it is from a certain point? so it's not like you got in a line thinking it was 5 mins. and it was 2 hrs. hello do what you need to do first then you won't have to cut in front of the 300 people who actually "stood" in line while you went to the bathroom, got your hair wrap or soda or whatever. problem solved!

 

[maggie1]

I've never jumped into one of these but here goes...I think madscrapper understands what the originator's post is about...was probably just a little taken aback by your comments re: if they can't hold it take the kid to the doctor. I know I was . I am big on bathroom planning myself, but now and then no matter how many bathroom breaks you make, you hear that "mom I have to go...."some calls of nature aren't entirely predictable. I don't know any parent of a pre-schooler who has not run into this at some time or other-if you have not you are lucky. For us, our whole family would leave the line together, but I certainly would not have a problem with another family doing the opposite for a small child, especially when they had been standing next to me all along.

Enjoy your baby's first trip!