'cutting' in line

[mmccoy]

You baaaaaaaaadddddd girl!

I understand your point of view, but if you remember one of those things your mom used to say, "What if everybody....".

Sure, not everyone's going to hold places, etc, but if enough people did it, the queue would get quite chaotic.

Just think in terms of, "Would Walt Like It?"

 

[jann1033]

Originally posted by Feelin' Goofy
I'm sorry 3 or 38 people line cutting is wrong the only time I see that that it is right is if you are already in line and the small child needs badly to go to the restroom. We teach children in preschool not to cut line then they get confused when they are told to do this at WDW. If they throw a fit about the wait then you don't make them wait IMO you are not doing them or yourself any favors.

agreed, it usually is a group of teen aged kids ( or a few times grown adults ) i have seen who pretend they are with someone else and keep moving up the line. this happened a number of times our last trip ( when the wait was all of 10 mins anyway) and one group of 6 did it everytime they were on the same attraction as us at MGM ( they also pretended not to understand english if someone told them the line was "back there")..which also shows how much it benefited them since they got on maybe 5 mins ahead of us at most things. the point is though it's unfair, arrogant and rude

 

[ChuckGA]

chrisn,
I do understand your warning to others as I had thought to post one as well. You never know when trying to catch up if you will run across a person who decided at that moment they have had enough of the "catching up" and get real ugly and possibly violent. I also would not recommend to a person in line that they attempt to stop the person moving up for the same reason. There have been posts here already from both sides that indicate some people have no problem using physical violence to protect their "right".

However I disagree with you that you had a legitimate child issue in this case because you were not already in line.

This happened at Islands of Adventure. DD was getting a hair wrap that I thought was almost done so DH wanted to get a head start in line at Posideon's Fury and told us to just "catch up" when we were done.

It is clear DH wanted to (and did) get in line without you so he would get on the ride sooner and that is the definition of place holder. My DW tried the same thing once while I was parking the stroller at Spaceship Earth. In that 60 seconds about 50 people got in line and I refused to cut in front of all those people between us for all of the reasons stated above, so they waited. I know others would say that is silly and I should have just caught up because it was no big deal. Maybe it is not a big deal, but I try to live by the rules I hope other people to live by.

Chuck

 

[DisneyMim]

I never have a problem with one or two people trying to catch up with others, I do however have a huge problem with entire families cutting to get to the one person waiting in line. We have always taught our kids that they have to wait in line and mine have been doing this since they were very wee. ALSO, along with this I can't stand people who try to push their way past me and don't say "excuse me". I won't let anyone, child or adult get by me without saying "excuse me". Where are your manners???:??

 

[Bojangles]

It doesn't matter on a lot of rides. I don't appreciate it with the rides that have narrow queue lines, though.

 

[dansyr]

I don't see a problem if a child has to go to the bathroom or there is an emergency situation, but if someone is just holding a spot for someone because they don't feel like waiting or if they're going to get a drink...that is line cutting.
If my party needs a drink we'll all go get the drink and then get in line. It is only fair

 

[BonnieA]

If you want to do the ride as a family, then get in line as a family. That includes stroller parkers and fast pass runners. Why can't you just wait for them and get in line together?

 

[IrishTimL]

BonnieA,
you are 100% correct!

 

[candykisses]

I don't appreciate place holders. I understand the bathroom emergencies, or someone going to get a drink BUT I think it's rude for someone to wait in line while the other goes for a fast pass.

I also think it's bad manners if someone waits in line while the other parent takes the kids to ride something to keep them amused and then get back in line. If the wait is too long use fast pass or try it another time.

I don't think one person in the group should que up when the rest of their party isn't ready. When the rest of the party gets there, the first person should go back with the party since it's so important to be together.

 

[Daxx]

I'm curious how the 38 people managed to get by everyone else still in the line?

Oh, they'd come in about 10 at a time every couple of minutes ... some would come a bit before the their turn and others would jostle the crowd just as their party was at the head of the line. It was very annoying and people would have to back up or push ahead for them to fit in. People were complaining out loud (but not to a CM) and they weren't embarrassed or anything. These weren't just kids -- a combination of kids and adults.

Similar thing happened while waiting in line for character autographs (where there's no roped queue) ... a boy was standing in line. Just as it was his turn to go up, his 3 siblings came running up from sitting on the side. They all had autograph books and it took awhile for them to get things done. Oh, it made DH so mad that the other siblings didn't wait in line. And, they weren't little ... they were prob. 14, 12, 10 & 8 yo. Of course, there was no parent to be seen. And, you know those characters have only so much time ... and here you are waiting patiently w/your party in the line, but these kids come and descend like vultures. Unfortunately, there was one CM for 4 characters. I can see one child running up ... but 3???

I told DH to be patient b/c it the damage was done and you couldn't undo it.

 

[NickyRe]

We just returned from WDW, we had an awesome time by the way....we are a family of five and a few times it was necessary to take one of our children to the bathroom but other than that we always wait in lines together but I never give it a second thought if a few people get in line with other family members in front of us, just doesn't bother me at all, now if a group of 30 were to do it I'm sure it would ruffle my feathers but other than that I really didn't give it much thought until I read this thread.

Nicky

 

[jann1033]

of course this doesn't even mention the aggressive place grabbers who would literally shove their group of 4-6 " between" my husband and i while we were walking side by side through the line. were they afraid the attraction was going to close in the 2 seconds between the time we would have gotten on and they would haven gotten on? were we invisible? did they think we were hobbling to slowly?

 

[donmil723]

What I hate is when they hold the line at the entrance like at Space Mountain and the line ends up going way into the crowd in tomorrowland. It's hard to tell who is in line and who is standing around talking, or waiting for someone, etc. I was accused of line cutting once in this situation. I heard someone behind me make a snide remark and I asked if she was talking about me. She said she was and I apologized and let her group in front of me. I felt bad but really couldn't tell where the end of the line was. I thought I had gotten to the end but apparently hadn't. Disney needs to let the lines into the building so they don't go out into the open areas so problems like this can be avoided.

Donna

 

[SkylarKD]

Originally posted by donmil723
It's hard to tell who is in line and who is standing around talking, or waiting for someone, etc. I was accused of line cutting once in this situation. ... I felt bad but really couldn't tell where the end of the line was. I thought I had gotten to the end but apparently hadn't.

This happened to me at the movie theatre the other night. We accidentally cut in the line for the automated ticket machine - it looked like there were 2 lines & we thought one of them was the line to buy tickets from the counter. How embarassing! The person behind us didn't say anything mean to us, he just said to someone next to him, loud enough for us to hear, "Is this the line?", to let us know. Embarassed, we left & got tickets later. *L*

 

[mmccoy]

Hey, Donna.

We had the same thing happen to us at BB, although it was because the line was so short! First thing in the morning, we were waiting in line for the ski lift. People were kind of bunched up in all directions, and without knowing it, we cut ahead of another family. The woman made a comment and gave us a disgusted look. I apologized, and we got out of the way. I, too, felt bad.

 

[Feelin' Goofy]

3 or 38.

It does not matter line cutting is line cutting. I once had a middle age man tring to catch up to his family in line that had to have been there for at least 30 min said that he had been to the restroom. This was after several others had aready shoved through. My point is that it needs to be an emergency from a small child that can not hold it other than that if you get out of line you should go to the back of the line or wait for your family as they get off the ride.
It bothers me to see even the few Dis'ers that say that they would hold lines even if it is to get a drink or whatever where are the Morals?. We stay together no matter what If one of us get out of line with a child we get in the back of the line no matter how long the line then the others wait at the exit (Period).

 

[kimbamickey]

I do not mean to offend anyone, but is vacation really supposed to be this stressful? Goodness! I am really not bothered by people holding a spot in line for their family/friends (and to think that only teenagers do it is ignorant.) Now the 40 people getting in line is excessive, but I think that is the exception. See I was brought up with the understanding that life is not fair. And occasionally I get annoyed about some kind of unfairness (I am human), but I have to remind myself that life is in fact not fair. So if you think less of me as a person for putting up with this “atrocity,” then I apologize for my existence. In today’s society we are taught that wasting time is unacceptable; we always have to be doing something to be more efficient. If people want to make the most of their time by having one person stand in line while the other goes and gets a drink, I do not see that as a terrible crime. It is sad that we have to be so rushed, but isn’t that what we have been taught? One other point- do adults not have bathroom emergencies? Why is it only acceptable if a small child has a bathroom emergency?

 

[BoyLovesBuzz]

As I just posted on the other line cutting thread, this really does not bother me. I think it is wrong to do, but I really don't care.

As far as bathroom "emergencies". With the exception of some rare medical conditions, there are no bathroom "emergencies".

If you standing next to a rest room, its not an emergency. If you are in your own home its not an emergency. Why does it become an emergency when you are standing in line? I'll tell you why, its because you don't want to be inconvenienced with leaving the line and starting over. Instead you would rather force the 20 or 200 people behind you to incur your inconvenience, regardless of how minor it may be.

Why is that ok?

The fact that I choose to accept your inconvenience is irrelevant to the argument of is it ok.

 

[2tinksmom]

I agree with kimbamickey. I'm there to have a good time and enjoy myself. I'm not gonna get bent out of shape just because a few people want to catch up with others in their party and I really don't care what their reason is.
Michele

 

[Castlebound]

Since we live near the Six Flags in St. Louis we have had to deal with line cutters forever and it gets old fast. I have seen people of all ages act like they are meeting up with someone farther up in line only to later see them get on and off that ride by themselves. The worst I have seen was a dad and a little boy of about five doing this. What a great thing to teach a child! You don't have to wait if you lie. So yes we are the kind of people who will not let you pass if you can't point out the group you are with from where we are and they let us know that you are with them.
Our kids learned from their very first trip to Six Flags that if you couldn’t wait in line for the ride then you couldn’t ride the ride. It is called patients and it is something that everybody needs to learn. There have been times when my husband or myself have had to get out of line with one of our kids and wait for the others to ride without us. Our thought has always been that we chose to have children and nobody chose that for us. So we deal with the inconveniences that sometimes happen with children and don't expect other people to have to deal with it. If the park has special programs set up to reduce the wait time(like the fast pass or child swap at WDW) then use it. I think that is it rude for people to think that everybody in line behind who ever they have hold their spot should understand them cutting in line just because are now ready to get in line.