Crummy Member Services Experience!

punkin712

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Fair warning...this rant may be long, disjointed and whiny, but I really have to vent.

DH and I booked BWV for 9/22 - 10/2 (DH's birthday) on March 24th. When we called MS (DH and I were both on the phone), we asked if they had any Boardwalk Views available. The MS rep said there was a Studio available so we went through the whole "how many points, etc." stuff. Then, on a whim, I asked if there was a 1-bedroom boardwalk view. To our surprise, the MS rep said they did have it so we jumped on it. At the end of the conversation, the MS rep said "If you want, I can waitlist you for the Studio." DH and I said we definitely preferred the 1-bedroom, thanked her and went about our merry ways. A few days later, we got our confirmation and all was right with the world.

Yesterday, we get another confirmation for the same timeframe, but the reservation is for a studio with Boardwalk view. Of course, by the time we get the mail, MS is closed (another rant for another day) so I planned to call first thing this morning. When I got through, the MS rep said that the 1-bedroom reservation had been cancelled and replaced with the studio reservation because we were waitlisted for the studio!! WHAT?! I explained to the MS rep that we didn't want the studio and she said "When your husband called to make the reservation, he specifically said that he wanted the studio and put you on the wait list." Good thing I was on the phone and knew this wasn't the case. I told her the entire conversation with the original MS rep and she said "Sorry, no 1-bedrooms available now. The best I can do is waitlist you for it." I almost lost it. I asked to speak with a manager and that's when things got really interesting...

A manager named Jean (Boston accent - anyone talk to her before?) gets on the line and says the same thing the other rep did about my husband requesting to be on the waitlist for a studio. I told her I was on the phone and that this absolutely was not the case and that we never asked to be put on the wait list. She kept interrupting me and talking over me (which was VERY annoying) and actually had the nerve to say "Well, if he didn't ask to be waitlisted, then how did the notes get on here that he did?" RIGHT!!! That's what I'd like to know! I told her we were coming down for my husband's birthday and I was planning to surprise him by having some of his family come in for a birthday party and, obviously, this required the additional elbow room of the 1-bedroom. Besides the fact that this was the room we requested in the first place.

So, this dance goes on for about 10 minutes and then Jean finally tells me that a 1-bedroom with Boardwalk view just became available (?!) so she changed the reservation back, but if it wouldn't have been available she wouldn't have been able to do anything for me. I tried to thank her, but she continued to interrupt me so she could say "You know, you really should be more clear when you make reservations next time because if this happens again you might not be so lucky." Can you imagine? I'm ready to thank her and she feels compelled to scold me.

She went on to say "You know, we started recording conversations so when people call and say 'I said this, they said that' we can go back and verify it and sometimes it ends up on our side." I told her that it shouldn't be about "sides" but rather doing the right thing. Of course, she was still talking over me and went on for another 10 minutes about how lucky I was that something was available and how I need to confirm reservations and how I should remember that calls are being recorded now so they can go back and find out who's telling the truth and on and on and on. I was flabbergasted that she was actually talking to me like this. Then, as if to put the final nail in the coffin, she says "You mentioned that you have other people coming in, but there are only 2 people listed on your reservation. What's really going on with that?" I explained that the other family members weren't staying overnight with us (they are staying with DH's mom in Tampa) but would be visiting our room for a party, dinner, etc. I guess she was convinced that I lied about the waitlist thing and was trying to catch me in another lie.

As soon as I get my grubby little paws on the new confirmation, I'm going to contact Carli D'Agostino (anyone have her direct phone number?) to let her know what happened. Like I said, I was very happy to get the reservation back to its original state, but the process was less than pleasant.

Thanks for listening... :love:
 
I'm so sorry Punkin...that's frustrating.

Good for you for asking for a manager and good for you for considering going further after you felt the manager was rude.

Did you suggest they do listen to the recording? :stir: Glad things worked out in the end for you. Let us know what kind of response you get when you make that call.....

Lisa
 
I'm a little confused, if there were a studio and one bedroom at the time of booking and you decided on the one bedroom why would you want to be waitlisted for the studio when you could of had that to begin with?
I would have told Jean to go ahead and pull the tape so she can start apologising to you. I guess she missed the customer service training.
 
Another simple and less expensive solution than recording calls would be to list all requests and wait lists on a reservation confirmation. That way when a member gets the letter and it has something you don't want (or something isn't listed that you do want), you could call and change it immediately.

I'm glad you got the room you needed.

HBC
 

I started to ask Jean why I would waitlist for the Studio if it was available when we called to make the reservation, but I couldn't get a word in edgewise to say it!

As far as the recording of our original call, Jean initially said that they couldn't pull a tape because they just recently started recording calls, but then she said she wouldn't pull a tape because the 1-bedroom was available. It was very confusing.

I almost forgot - I told her that we even had to borrow points from next year so we could book the 1-bedroom and she said "No you didn't." Um, yeah, we did. I explained that at the time we made the reservation, we needed to borrow points but since then purchased additional points. Not that it should matter, right? I just felt like she was so desperate to prove I was lying so she could say they were right.

The plot thickens...I just called MS to see if I could get Carli's direct phone number and the rep said that she could transfer me to her, but would need my name and member number so she could open up my account first. Since I want to get the new confirmation before I lodge a complaint (paranoid, I guess) I said "That's okay. I'll just send her an email." Then, the MS rep said "Why don't you want to give me your name?" Now I'm convinced that there is a red button that lights up every time I call there. I just told the rep that it would be easier to just email her the information. So, I called the general DVC number and the person there gave me Carli's phone number, no questions asked. Although...when I asked if she could confirm that Carli is still the Member Satisfaction Manager, the woman said "Look, I'm in a 9-story office building and I don't know everybody who works here. I just got her number off the phone list."

What's going on?! Is it me?!?! Or, is it officially Terrible Tuesday at Disney? :stir:
 
Wow..How annoying! I would definitely file a report with someone. I had a similar experience at the beach club resort (not DVC) when I had a confirmation for a AP discounted room and the woman chastised me because "I didn't bring it up right away". I was just in horror that this woman was yelling at me on my vacation!

I don't know what is happening to customer service these days.
 
We recently had our first bad experience with Member Services. We wanted a reservation for a 2 bedroom at VWL for November 26th-December 10th. We are taking my parents for one week (they've been before) and my in-laws for a week (their first time)....
We ended up having to waitlist for 4 days.....2 here and 2 there.
After thinking about the possibility that the waitlist would NOT come through we decided to book ANOTHER reservation at OKW for ALL of the days (we could do it without any waitlist days) but we were holding out hope for the lodge b/c both parties we're taking are kinda "lodgy" people.
We intended to cancel the OKW reservation if the waitlist for VWL came through or cancel the VWL reservation if it got to the point we had to bank points before losing them.
Well, the MS rep (a young man) gave DH a VERY hard time about making TWO reservations for the same time period. He was mean about it and said that we were being greedy and that if we wanted OKW we should just go ahead and cancel the broken up lodge ressie. He told us that our actions would make it hard for OTHER people to get what they wanted.
Since when can you not book two rooms? I've heard of ppl booking lots of rooms if they are having a big gathering of ppl! :confused3
Finally, the young man said he would have to check with his supervisor to see if we could book two rooms for the same dates. He came back and acted like they would make this exception for us THIS time, but that we shouldn't try to do it again (b/c, again, we might not be so lucky.)

Since then, both of our waitlists have come through (2 days here, 2 days there) and we have cancelled the OKW ressie. But DH wasn't so pleased with the attitude of the MS rep. :( :(
 
We've never had anything but happy conversations with MS, but I would sure contact Carli D'Agostino on both of these. If the situations were just cases of a great CM having a bad day, that will come out in the wash. If not, your complaints will possibly help relocate someone who is in the wrong position.

In OP's case, it will be a simple matter to pull the tapes and "see who's telling the truth." :rolleyes: Actually, it won't be because I'm sure with their call volume they only archive the calls for 24 hours if they record them at all. In any event, the confrontational, accusatory tone of the supervisor should not go unreported. No matter what the situation is, that's not the way those conversations should go.

The second case is less severe, but I'd report it too. It's none of the CM's business if you want to make two ressies at the same time. And it's certainly not his role to pontificate about whether or not you are using your points in the most beneficial manner for all of mankind. If you have the points, you get the ressie...what's the hard part? A lot of people make backup reservations at their home resort -- and a LOT of CM's suggest that!

Sorry you both had bad experiences. We've always had great help from MS, and I don't think we have just been lucky.
 
It wasn't that great w/MS yesterday either. I closed on a resale and called to see if the points were available yet and got a snippy gal that said the contract was now under my name but the points had not been transferred because no one could enter the info. in the system as they were "too busy with calls like these". Sorry...I thought that's what MS is for! It's the first time I've spoken with anyone that was so abrupt. Do you think they are short-handed and it's causing a lot of tension?
 
calypso*a*go-go said:
It wasn't that great w/MS yesterday either. I closed on a resale and called to see if the points were available yet and got a snippy gal that said the contract was now under my name but the points had not been transferred because no one could enter the info. in the system as they were "too busy with calls like these". Sorry...I thought that's what MS is for!
Actually, MS's job IS to handle "...calls like these!" The job of setting up accounts and entering the points into the accounts is a completely different department. Ms. Snippy was being neither truthful :sad2: nor courteous. :sad2:
 
Don't these people work for us? Do they know that? I think a little more training is needed for these people. I don't go in for all this snippy attitude!!!
 
sean-1966 said:
Don't these people work for us? Do they know that? I think a little more training is needed for these people. I don't go in for all this snippy attitude!!!
We have been members for nearly 10 years with lots of calls to MS, and I have never experienced a "snippy attitude" as you put it. Everyone has bad days, but I think the OP had more than their share of problems with this particular incident. Too bad the "manager" decided to take the same path as the original agent.
 
Sorry you guys had to deal with this. I am glad you are pursueing this. There is no excuse for attitudes like that.

Hope your husband has a great birthday though.
 
I think you should continue to pursue this. I think any one that encounters rudeness should make a point to give negative feedback. You know what? Yesterday I talked to a customer service agent on my AMEX account. He was friendly, he was helpful (I think) and he was courteous. The trouble was I couldn't understand much of what he was saying. I asked him where he was talking from and he said India. So many customer service jobs are going over to India! I sent an e-mail to AMEX telling him about the difficulty I had understanding their rep and stated that it might be a potential problem going forward.
 
punkin712 said:
She went on to say "You know, we started recording conversations so when people call and say 'I said this, they said that' we can go back and verify it and sometimes it ends up on our side."
Is MS located in Florida? I believe Florida law prohibits the recording of telephone conversations unless all parties agree to it. Was there any announcement on your original call that phone conversations may be recorded?
 
DisneyTarheel said:
Is MS located in Florida? I believe Florida law prohibits the recording of telephone conversations unless all parties agree to it. Was there any announcement on your original call that phone conversations may be recorded?

I don't remember hearing anything to the effect of "this call may be recorded", so maybe it's just a scare tactic.

I think it's illegal in a few states, right?
 
punkin712 said:
I don't remember hearing anything to the effect of "this call may be recorded", so maybe it's just a scare tactic.

I think it's illegal in a few states, right?
I hope they're not using scare tactics! That doesn't seem very Disney-like. I spoke to someone in MS about a cruise today, and I swear that he started off a little defensive, kind of like he thought I was going to complain about something. But the more we talked, the more he warmed up. He was downright chatty at the end.

People in MS really need to be the patient-type because I think it's a very confusing system, with banking and borrowing and reservations points and use year and wait lists, etc. I think I've finally got it all sorted out, but it took me a good two years to do so!
Shannon
 
calypso*a*go-go said:
It wasn't that great w/MS yesterday either. I closed on a resale and called to see if the points were available yet and got a snippy gal that said the contract was now under my name but the points had not been transferred because no one could enter the info. in the system as they were "too busy with calls like these". Sorry...I thought that's what MS is for! It's the first time I've spoken with anyone that was so abrupt. Do you think they are short-handed and it's causing a lot of tension?

Lisa,

Congrats on the resale!!!!! I am so happy for you guys!party:
 
dianeschlicht said:
We have been members for nearly 10 years with lots of calls to MS, and I have never experienced a "snippy attitude" as you put it. Everyone has bad days, but I think the OP had more than their share of problems with this particular incident. Too bad the "manager" decided to take the same path as the original agent.

Never had a problem either. I always call in the afternoon if I can.
 













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