Cruises - Have Passport Regulations Changed?

montblanc

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Hi,

Do I need a passport for myself and my daughter when we go on a Disney cruise? I have heard that changes are afoot. Planning a cruise in 2006, if the money is there, lol.
 
As it stands now, you would both need a passport.

The proposed regulations, which are currently moving forward, would require a passport for all US citizens returning to the US from the Caribbean effective 1/1/2006.

However, there is a chance that the regulations could change. At this point I don't believe that DCL or other cruise lines are saying passports are required for 2006. They will probably wait until about four months before the rules go into effect. I believe they are holding back in case they change, they don't want to tell all their passengers that passports are required and then have it turn out to not be the case. I am sure that they will notify future passengers with plenty of time to obtain passports.

With that being said, it would be wise to include the cost of passports in your budget as there is a good chance that they will be required. Passports are always a good idea, but you could hold off obtaining them until about four months before your cruise just to see what happens. You can usually obtain a passport in much less time than four months, but four months gives you a cushion, in case there are problems.

What you should do right now is make sure that you have valid certified state issued birth certificates for you and your daughter. One way or another you are going to need them. This way you have them if you have to apply for a passport. (and having two official copies, one to send in for your passport and one to hold onto, is not a bad idea either)
 
I received an email from All Seasons Travel last week saying basically we will be required to have passports beginning 1/1/06....
 

I’m constantly seeing on these boards that passports won’t be needed until 1/1/06. In my never ending paranoia and want to be sure nothing goes wrong, I decided that we’re going to go get our passports renewed even though we’re on the 5/28/05 cruise to Mexico.

We made an appt online about a month ago and the earliest appt date we could get was for today (5/17/05)

At the post office we’re told that with the processing time, there is no way we could get our passports done in time thru them. But the counter person is nice enough to give us the # to the actual gov’t office so that we could get it taken care of quicker since the situation is pretty urgent.

Just to play it safe I mention that we’re just going to Mexico. She said it doesn’t matter, if we are traveling abroad WE WILL NEED A PASSPORT.

So after going thru the massive automated system on the phone trying to get a real live person (turns out you just CANT) I find out that as of right now & up until we start our cruise, at the moment, there are no appt’s available.

So now we must call each morning to see if a cancellation occurred and if we can jump in and take care of business.

If we luck out and get an appt, our passports will need to be expedited (for an additional fee) so we’re looking at about $145 a passport.
 
imitationcrab2000, I think you were misinformed. The government travel site says that under the proposed travel initiative a passport will be required "for all air and sea travel to or from Mexico and Canada" beginning on December 31, 2006. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2224.html

The previous page states "this is a change from prior travel requirements," so I think someone didn't know what they were talking about. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html

I wouldn't take my word for it, but the story you were told seems fishy. You may be encouraged to have one, but I don't think it's required.
 
mousebrat said:
imitationcrab2000, I think you were misinformed. The government travel site says that under the proposed travel initiative a passport will be required "for all air and sea travel to or from Mexico and Canada" beginning on December 31, 2006. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2224.html


I fully understand what you're saying, it's what i've been hearing on this board the whole time, I also checked the link for travel.state.gov and saw what they said. but to be told verbally, otherwise, by a person who issues passports all day long is sort of disturbing. so now i'm emailing the gov website to get the real clarified answer.
 
imitation:

You were speaking to a postal employee not a State Department employee. The State Dept. has released this information not only through the website but in general press releases as well. I know hearing this coming from someone you think to be "in the know" is convincing, but I would have to agree with mousebrat that you are fine with just the BC and license until 01/01/06 for travel. S/he at the post office doesn't issue passports all day long. They accept the paperwork and checks and send them to the passport agency. I would certainly try and get the passport at the passport agency if possible, but don't feel that you will be barred from traveling if you don't have it this month. Good luck and I hope someone of authority in the State Dept. can confirm this for you.
 
I need to renew my passport anyway so I'll be going down to the US Passport Office in Washington, D.C. to clarify everything.
 
montblanc said:
I need to renew my passport anyway so I'll be going down to the US Passport Office in Washington, D.C. to clarify everything.

I'm waiting for them to reply to an email I sent them yesterday
 
this is the official word I got emailed back to me from "The Man"

The Government of Mexico requires that all U.S. citizens present proof of citizenship and photo identification for entry into Mexico. While U.S. citizenship documents such as a certified copy of a U.S. birth certificate, a Naturalization Certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad, or a Certificate of Citizenship are acceptable, the U.S. Embassy recommends traveling with a valid U.S. passport to avoid delays or misunderstandings. U.S. citizens have encountered difficulty boarding onward flights in Mexico without a passport. U.S. citizens boarding flights to Mexico should be prepared to present one of these documents as proof of U.S. citizenship, along with photo identification. Driver's permits, voter registration cards, affidavits and similar documents are not sufficient to prove citizenship for readmission into the United States.

U.S. citizens do not require a visa or a tourist card for tourist stays of 72 hours or less within "the border zone," defined as an area between 20 to 30 kilometers of the border with the U.S., depending on the location. U.S. citizens traveling as tourists beyond the border zone or entering Mexico by air must pay a fee to obtain a tourist card, also known as an FM-T, available from Mexican consulates, Mexican border crossing points, Mexican tourism offices, airports within the border zone and most airlines serving Mexico. The fee for the tourist card is generally included in the price of a plane ticket for travelers arriving by air.

Tourists wishing to travel beyond the border zone with their car must obtain a temporary import permit or risk having their car confiscated by Mexican customs officials. To acquire a permit, one must submit evidence of citizenship, title for the car, a car registration certificate, a driver's license, and a processing fee to either a Banjercito branch located at a Mexican Customs office at the port of entry, or at the Mexican Consulate in Austin, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Bernardino, or San Francisco. Mexican law also requires the posting of a bond at a Banjercito office to guarantee the departure of the car from Mexico within a time period determined at the time of the application. For this purpose, American Express, Visa or MasterCard credit card holders will be asked to provide credit card information; others will need to make a cash deposit of between $200 and $400, depending on the age of the car. In order to recover this bond or avoid credit card charges, travelers must go to any Mexican Customs office immediately prior to departing Mexico. Disregard any advice, official or unofficial, that vehicle permits can be obtained at checkpoints in the interior of Mexico. Avoid individuals outside vehicle permit offices offering to obtain the permits without waiting in line. If the proper permit cannot be obtained at the Banjercito branch at the port of entry, do not proceed to the interior where travelers may be incarcerated, fined and/or have their vehicle seized at immigration/customs checkpoints. For further information, contact Mexican Customs offices about appropriate vehicle permits.

Upon arrival in Mexico, business travelers must complete and submit a form (Form FM-N 30 days) authorizing the conduct of business, but not employment, for a 30-day period. Travelers entering Mexico for purposes other than tourism or business or for stays of longer than 180 days require a visa and must carry a valid U.S. passport. U.S. citizens planning to work or live in Mexico should apply for the appropriate Mexican visa at the Mexican Embassy in Washington, DC or nearest Mexican consulate in the United States.

Mexican law requires that any child under the age of 18, of any nationality, traveling into or out of Mexico must carry notarized written permission from any parent not traveling with the child. There have been cases where children, even American children, not carrying this document have been denied entry into Mexico, or have not been allowed to board a plane in the U.S. bound for Mexico. This permission must include the the name of the parent, the name of the child, the name of anyone traveling with the child, and the notarized signature(s) of the absent parent(s). The child must be carrying the original letter - not a faxed or scanned copy - as well as proof of the parent/child relationship (usually a birth certificate) - and an original custody decree, if applicable.

For further information concerning entry and visa requirements, travelers may contact the Embassy of Mexico at 1911 Pennsylvania Avenue N.W., Washington, D.C. 20006, telephone (202) 736-1000, Internet site: http://portal.sre.gob.mx/usa/, or any Mexican consulate in the United States.

If you have further questions, please email us at NPIC@state.gov. Please include all prior messages or correspondence in your reply so that we may know what has taken place previously. If you prefer, you can call us at 1(877)487-2778, for TDD/TTY callers 1-888 874-7793. Our contact center is open Monday through Friday 8:00 AM-8:00 PM EST.

Thank you.
National Passport Information Center 035
 
You may want to check your local courthouse for passport processing, too. I know in Arizona I had to go to the county courthouse to give them all the paperwork. It was there I learned that my "birth certificate" was not the one needed and that I would have to order the correct one! Fortunately, that took no time and I was able to get my passport quickly. I sent for it in May, and got it with in 3 weeks, no rush needed.

BTW, my husband needed to renew his in a hurry, paid for expediting aqnd overnighting, it still took 2 weeks in December. Hardly worth the extra money.

Having a passport is the best way of identifying yourself to officials in foriegn countries. I use mine for all my travels with in the US, the TSA likes it becasue they don't have to search all over for the infomation. It seems to me that I might misplace my certified BC becasue it is just a piece of paper from a copy machine, I could easoly toss it with other junk, but my passport is unique, and so far, I have never misplaced it.
 
mickeyfan1 said:
You may want to check your local courthouse for passport processing, too. I know in Arizona I had to go to the county courthouse to give them all the paperwork. It was there I learned that my "birth certificate" was not the one needed and that I would have to order the correct one! Fortunately, that took no time and I was able to get my passport quickly. I sent for it in May, and got it with in 3 weeks, no rush needed.

BTW, my husband needed to renew his in a hurry, paid for expediting aqnd overnighting, it still took 2 weeks in December. Hardly worth the extra money.

Having a passport is the best way of identifying yourself to officials in foriegn countries. I use mine for all my travels with in the US, the TSA likes it becasue they don't have to search all over for the infomation. It seems to me that I might misplace my certified BC becasue it is just a piece of paper from a copy machine, I could easoly toss it with other junk, but my passport is unique, and so far, I have never misplaced it.


I live in San Francisco & I tried a few times to get any kind of appt to speed up the process. Step 1, you need to be leaving within the next 14 days.. I qualify. Step 2 you need to make an appt... their booked, no matter what.

but i'm past it, I dont need it, i'm not going to stress about it anymore.

our trip is on 5/28/05 :3dglasses
 

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