Cruise Curmudgeons of the World Unite

I agree - has the person pushing the stroller ever wondered why the kids are so rolly polly? Let them get some exercise! Believe me, they will sleep better which is a plus for you and me (I won't have to listen to them running down the halls screaming the top of their lungs at 2 in the morning) :rotfl:

That's because most of these people believe little Syndye (I'm sure I spelled that wrong - if that is possible) is a "strong-willed child" and we just don't understand her special personality or what horrific earth-rotation changes will result if Mommy & Daddy were to say NO to her consistently about her food inclinations & preferences, or her being forced to do something other than what she wants to do at that moment. Oh - and being taken out of her "regular routine" is in that category, too.

I love the people who insist their child needs a nap during the safety drill. And their child needs first dining because second is way too late. And their child will be the ONE who manages to fall over the railing of the ship. And their child will figure out how to get out of the clubs/lab/scuttle's cove without any counselor noticing.

OK - I have kids, so I know what it is to be responsible for other humans, but after all of these years and thousands of cruisers.....how is it that so many OTHER people have NO problems with these things, or they just tell their kids how things are going to be?

Thank you. That was cathartic. I'm really not so cynical. But it has been building for years......
 
That's because most of these people believe little Syndye (I'm sure I spelled that wrong - if that is possible) is a "strong-willed child" and we just don't understand her special personality or what horrific earth-rotation changes will result if Mommy & Daddy were to say NO to her consistently about her food inclinations & preferences, or her being forced to do something other than what she wants to do at that moment. Oh - and being taken out of her "regular routine" is in that category, too.

I love the people who insist their child needs a nap during the safety drill. And their child needs first dining because second is way too late. And their child will be the ONE who manages to fall over the railing of the ship. And their child will figure out how to get out of the clubs/lab/scuttle's cove without any counselor noticing.

OK - I have kids, so I know what it is to be responsible for other humans, but after all of these years and thousands of cruisers.....how is it that so many OTHER people have NO problems with these things, or they just tell their kids how things are going to be?

Thank you. That was cathartic. I'm really not so cynical. But it has been building for years......

But, but, but, those railings on the verandas are only 4 feet high, my 2 year old could easily scale the sheer plexiglass wall and fling herself overboard, she's a vigorous climber you know! Please convince me a veranda is safe?
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Technically, it's a contraction, such as isn't, and wouldn't. However, you are correct, it's not really proper English, the standard contractions are accepted unless you're Data (and no, I'm not really a Star Trek geek, I just have massive amounts of dumb trivia floating around in my head! )
I am a Star Trek Geek. You seem logical to me. LOL.
 

Okay, you self-important weasels, listen up, because I'm only going to type this once: If I find out you've ignored the brief lifeboat lineup, I'll personally hunt you down, tie you into a genuine Abandon Ship Vest from the Navy or Coast Guard, and yank those crotch straps so tight you'll have lumps in your throat. I will drag you, squealing in a very high pitch, by your ankles, head banging kaTHUMP with each step, up or down as many sets of stairs as separate your cabin from the boat deck, and discuss the importance of federally mandated activities that are designed TO SAVE YOUR WORTHLESS LIFE.

You cannot practice staying alive too often. You cannot ignore the importance of showing darling little Lyzzbethhe how to wear her vest and do what the crew tells her to when the ship hits the span and seawater is spraying out of the crack in the elevator doors and you're in Vista Spa getting hot rocks spread on your back (of all the idiotic, self-indulgent, worthless "treatments"). Little Lyzzbethhe deserves to grow up, even without mother who knows she's too important to follow rules.

I have been through a lot more abandon-ship drills than the few the cruise industry has invited me to. I take each of them seriously. In 1971 I sat at a picnic table with a guy who described being on the Coast Guard's largest class of cutter, which name I've forgotten, in the Bering Sea -- after it had struck a rock. (Who would think the Coast Guard would hit a rock? But it wasn't charted.) You've seen Deadliest Catch, you know what the seas can be like with hurricane-force winds driving sprindrift so cold and hard that it flashes to ice when it hits the steel railings and plastic life-raft tubs. Whole compartments -- and part of the engine room -- were flooded, with shocking-cold water surging from port to starbord while crewmen in dungarees tried to wedge timbers and plywood and mattresses against the ripped steel plates.

With shoulders slumped, he told us about the months of nightmares, about the times he'd break into a sweat, his heart racing, when he heard a dumpster being dropped by a garbage truck, or some other daily bang or squeal. Half the crew was hoisted from the ship for their own safety as it crawled for days through frigid seas towards a lee shore and eventually a cove where they could run it onto the beach if the flooding worsened. Several guys were later admitted to psych wards at Public Health Service and Navy hospitals. I guess they're as okay as most of the soldiers coming back from Afghanistan. And they were alive because they trained and drilled and followed the instructions of their officers.

So I learned to take seriously those drills on my small cutter, the Resolute. And I participate alertly on cruises. And I tell Lyzzbethhe's sweet mommie to shut her pie hole and stow her cell phone and listen up because I don't want her distracting deserving people from knowing how to keep themselves alive in an emergency.

Make all the cracks you want while standing with your back to the bulkhead on the Promenade Deck, but when that guy with a Day-Glo vest starts talking through a little bullhorn, listen like you'll have to recite it at the Oscars. And if you can't keep Lyzzbethhe from whining about missing her nap, I'll be happy to help you.
 
Valvob AMEN. That kills me too. Oh my kid hates alarms so I should skip the drill or any other excuse they can think off. Oh and to those who bring your kid in a stroller to the drill, STOP!!!! Not like it is comeing with you if we do need to abandon ship.
 
Ok - I'm in the fab column for celebration cakes. My favorite dessert. The chocoloate desserts are too chocolaty and I don't like the souffle at Palo.

Jan
 
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Much to my surprise, when we sailed on the Wonder in early April to Mexico, the drill did not include donning life vests. We were told to leave them in our rooms.

I was a bit surprised by this, as I always thought it was good common sense to be familiar with putting on at least once and learning how to put a baby in the safety-baby-thingy.

I wondered if this was a government thing or were there guest complaints.

(And yes, people were distressed that the drill interrupted their unpacking or feeding.)





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This is my curmudgeon rant this early Sunday morning.....

Disney, DCL, and/or captain of the ship cannot control the weather and cannot control docking at Castaway Cay if the winds are a blowin', the ship is going through threatening storms and/or hurricanes are headed to Castaway. We were on the Magic in September 2004 when Hurricane Jean interrupted our cruise. We had a beautiful Wednesday in St. Thomas. That evening, the waves started churning and the ship was rocking; people were hanging on to those brown bags as if they were beloved idols and those trying to walk looked like drunken sailors. Thursday morning, the seas were calmer. The captain was giving us frequent announcements about weather conditions in the Bahamas. Thursday afternoon, the captain announced that we would not be docking at Castaway Cay as Hurricane Jean was back in the Bahamas, and Jean's destination was the east coast of Florida. The captain announced that the Wonder was headed to Castway to pick up the CMs living on the island to get them out of harm's way. We heard this announcement while at the Cove Cafe sitting with 3-4 couples. One of the ladies stood up after hearing we weren't going to Castaway and gave a brilliant demonstration of an adult temper tantrum - crying, yelling that her vacation was ruined, their focus of the cruise was to go to Castaway, then she ran out of the Cove never to be seen again. Amazing! On Friday, the captain annouced that we would dock at Port Canaveral at approximately 10 p.m. that night. Buses would be waiting to take guests to the Swan and Dolphin Hotels, we were given complementary breakfast and complementary transportation to MCO, if needed. He also announced that all guests would receive 50% of their next DCL cruise. This aborted cruise must have caused a logistical nightmare at DCL/WDW, however, we thought DCL did its best to create the best case scenario for cruisers.

Again, self-centered adults, it's not all about you. Weather conditions can cause interruptions and changes to your cruise. You do not want to be on the beach at Castaway when a hurricane is in the area.

Ok, back to my Sunday routine - coffee and the newspaper.

Jan
 
Ok - I'm in the fab column for celebration cakes. My favorite dessert. The chocoloate desserts are too chocolaty and I don't like the souffle at Palo.

Jan


I wonder if we've had the same cake? I understand that there are 3 sorts available, whipped cream, chocolate or satanic.

I'm sure that when they see our names they might make the satanic variety just for us. It must be fairly simple to whip up a batch of strawberry flavored wallpaper paste and slap it between two Scotch-Brite sponges.

I shouldn't grumble. As my mother would tell me, there are deprived passengers on other cruise lines who would consider themselves lucky and be delighted to have my celebration cake.







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Ian, we were on B2B Wonder cruises last November and we wore life vests to the drills. I read a December cruise trip report that vests were no longer worn to the drills. My first thought was that it's good to be familiar with the life vests in case of an emergency. I came to the concluson that there were guest complaints as I have heard guests grumbling at drills that other cruise lines do not mandate that life vests be worn at the drills.

Jan
 
But, but, but, those railings on the verandas are only 4 feet high, my 2 year old could easily scale the sheer plexiglass wall and fling herself overboard, she's a vigorous climber you know! Please convince me a veranda is safe?
</sarc and snort!>


Since I don't have children, I don't have strong opinions on parenting so long as the little darlings are kept away from me. If they don't try to involve me in their family drama I don't really care. Although are sometimes from some factions a sense of entitlement -- almost the expectation that they had their good time, but I am the one who must pay for it.

I do observe parents and am sometimes a little bit surprised at how they interact with their kids. I have no role models for parenting other than my own. My mother was a a warm, loving take no prisoners sort of gal. She had very clear ideas about behavior and who was the child and who was the parent.

She was also a keen master of "THE LOOK" which in retrospect was a rather clever exercise of wordless control.

Good thing she did her child rearing in the '50's and '60's. If it were today, mom would probably be doing her knitting in a jail cell somewhere.





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Ian, I'm referring to the whipped cream in the cake. I haven't had any other variety - thankfully. You must be on the DCL baker's "list"!

Jan
 
Make all the cracks you want while standing with your back to the bulkhead on the Promenade Deck, but when that guy with a Day-Glo vest starts talking through a little bullhorn, listen like you'll have to recite it at the Oscars. And if you can't keep Lyzzbethhe from whining about missing her nap, I'll be happy to help you.

Bravo Zulo on this one, I always instruct my family on this before the drill. Unfortunately, the last few DCL cruises we have been we weren't required to wear the the life vests. Big mistake on Disney's part, as many of us have found out when checking life jackets, we either have too many child or too many adult jackets in our cabins. Does anyone even check to see if they have the proper ones now that you are not required to bring it to the abandon ship drill? As any former Navy or Coast Guard sailor knows that is not the time to figure out what to do. In the Navy we would have at least 2 abandon ship drills a month. I remember everyone with their grease pencils writing in the back of their hands " nearest land bearing 170 degrees, 10 nautical miles, unfriendly". That will make you pay attention!
 
She was also a keen master of "THE LOOK" which in retrospect was a rather clever exercise of wordless control.

Good thing she did her child rearing in the '50's and '60's. If it were today, mom would probably be doing her knitting in a jail cell somewhere.

I can't say what you would think of my parenting skills, but according to most, I frequently employ THE LOOK. With my child, my students and occasionally, my husband.
 
You cannot practice staying alive too often. You cannot ignore the importance of showing darling little Lyzzbethhe how to wear her vest and do what the crew tells her to when the ship hits the span and seawater is spraying out of the crack in the elevator doors and you're in Vista Spa getting hot rocks spread on your back (of all the idiotic, self-indulgent, worthless "treatments"). Little Lyzzbethhe deserves to grow up, even without mother who knows she's too important to follow rules.

I agree completely. Our 5-year-old has Asperger's and we have always worked with him to get him through the drill. It's a lot of work for us, but that is what parents do. We get that there are some kids who really have a difficult time with the sounds, crowds, etc. at the drill. But God forbid something happen where we had to abandon ship, I could not live with myself if I lost my son because he did not know what to do.
 
Ok - I'm in the fab column for celebration cakes. My favorite dessert. The chocoloate desserts are too chocolaty and I don't like the souffle at Palo.
Jan

I don't care for the souffle (or rich chocolate, in general) either, and hate that I have to apologize to some of the Palo servers because they assumed I wanted it & ordered it for me....! I must remember that dining at Palo is all about *them* and not me...lol



Much to my surprise, when we sailed on the Wonder in early April to Mexico, the drill did not include donning life vests. We were told to leave them in our rooms.

I was a bit surprised by this, as I always thought it was good common sense to be familiar with putting on at least once and learning how to put a baby in the safety-baby-thingy.

I wondered if this was a government thing or were there guest complaints.
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Government thing. Maritime Law no longer requires life jackets at Muster Drills.


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Does anyone even check to see if they have the proper ones now that you are not required to bring it to the abandon ship drill?

I will definitely be checking. On my last cruise we still had to wear them to the drill and my vest was broken/missing a strap, they delivered another one to our cabin after the drill. Last thing I want to do is find out in an emergency that we don't have enough or that they are not usable.
 
It's great to see most Guest's take the safety drill seriously and understand the importance of it, even if a few don't think it applies to them.
CC197823, your stateroom host/hostess is supposed to check the lifejackets and make sure they haven't been tampered with when turning your stateroom around from the previous guest's, but I guess sometimes they could miss a damaged strap.

However there are numerous lockers located around deck 4 (and other places on the ship) full of additional life jackets of all sizes and cot's for just such a situation and incase you aren't able to make it back to your stateroom for whatever reason in the event of an emergency.
Just like the life boat assignments and their actual capacity, there is a large redundancy of additional life jacket's available if necessary.

Ex Techie
 
She was also a keen master of "THE LOOK" which in retrospect was a rather clever exercise of wordless control.

Good thing she did her child rearing in the '50's and '60's. If it were today, mom would probably be doing her knitting in a jail cell somewhere.

I call it "Maude face" (thanks to Rants from Mommyland, makes me laugh) and employ it regularly, not only on my own children, but even on other people's kids, yep <gasp> I'm the mom who has no problem tell your sweet little Sydny that if she hits my kid again with anything, I'll yank her out of the pool and take her to a lifeguard, regardless of the threat from Mom of assault charges. I also trip kids running through the halls at 2:00am screaming, and tell teenagers to watch their language in the elevators when they thing they should channel sailors (or how they THINK sailors talk). It makes me happy!
 

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