Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Leigh L]

Wait, they don't get a photo if *other* people aren't wearing masks? I figured this was a subtle message for people breaking the rules, basically that if you take your mask off for the ride photo we'll put one on for you so you might as well keep it on.

Nope, they never appear in MDE. We were missing several ride pics, at least a couple we saw who didn't have their mask on. The others missing we assumed people either removed or moved their masks down mid-ride.

 

[gottalovepluto]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/12/disn...ace-masks-to-guests-faces-for-on-ride-photos/

This is the way forward... can't wait to hear the complaints about people not getting maskless photos.

Glad Disney has IT working on the important stuff

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Wait, they don't get a photo if *other* people aren't wearing masks? I figured this was a subtle message for people breaking the rules, basically that if you take your mask off for the ride photo we'll put one on for you so you might as well keep it on.

yup - if anyone in the ride vehicle did not have their mask on than no one got the photos. So the group that paid for Memory Maker and followed the rules is punished b/c another group didnt' follow rules

So I see this as mostly for that first groups' benefit - that they can still get their ride photos

 

[Mit88]

Wait, they don't get a photo if *other* people aren't wearing masks? I figured this was a subtle message for people breaking the rules, basically that if you take your mask off for the ride photo we'll put one on for you so you might as well keep it on.

If you’re in a ride vehicle where you’re in the same picture as another group, but the other group doesn’t have their mask on, or not wearing it correctly, you, or the other group will not have access to the photo.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Glad Disney has IT working on the important stuff

well, if it works like the photo on Space Ship Earth works than it is just a CM manually putting a digital mask on the people in the photo. So likely wasn't a big IT Investment, but rather another job of a CM

 

[Mit88]

32,000 CMs is going to seem like nothing compared to what’s about to happen to the theater industry.

 

[TwoMisfits]

Speaking of theaters Warner’s just announced they are streaming all their films for the next year day of release in theaters, i wonder if Disney will follow.

They are gambling big...but I think they'll win the gamble.

DOM theatrical for the 1st 6 months of 2021 is looking to be nonexistant.
DOM theaters, at least some will likely go bankrupt, shrinking the market.
AT&T is aware that at some point, there will be a shakeout on all these streaming plans - DOM folks will likely only pay for 2-3. Right now, HBO Max is NOT gonna be one of them without a big change - this is that.

My spouse and I will be dropping Hulu and getting HBO Max on Dec 23 (when Hulu runs out and right before WW). We've never even had HBO. So, if there are many DOM folks like us, this wins and wins big. If there isn't, it loses, but not as much as it would in a normal theatrical environment, which we'll likely never see again. So, it's worth the gamble.

PS - This now also puts me on the fence for Disney+ - I prefer movies to shows, and I don't know if I wanna pay full price for D+ and HBO Max, when I get Netflix free by phone and Prime for shipping. So, I'm one of those folks who just won't keep piling on streaming...

 

[MickeyWaffles]

The fans of streaming are in a confined bubble and don’t see the reaction and feelings of a large majority of people that want the theatrical experience saved.

We kick and scream about Chapek and the layoffs. Lose the theater industry and let’s talk about the amount of layoffs there are.

I just want to throw it out there that since we started having kids 5 years ago, the ONLY movies we see in a theater are family/kids movies. Pre-kids we went to a movie every Sunday night.

But to find and pay $$$ for a sitter, plus the $$$ for the movie & food, and then spend our valuable time out alone not even talking to each other for 2.5 hours ... we would pay a premium to be able to stream a new release at home after the kids go to bed. I want the theatrical experience saved. I do. But it’s very hard for us as parents to see all the R/PG-13 releases that we want to see. Family stuff? We’re there.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

They are gambling big...but I think they'll win the gamble.

DOM theatrical for the 1st 6 months of 2021 is looking to be nonexistant.
DOM theaters, at least some will likely go bankrupt, shrinking the market.
AT&T is aware that at some point, there will be a shakeout on all these streaming plans - DOM folks will likely only pay for 2-3. Right now, HBO Max is NOT gonna be one of them without a big change - this is that.

My spouse and I will be dropping Hulu and getting HBO Max on Dec 23 (when Hulu runs out and right before WW). We've never even had HBO. So, if there are many DOM folks like us, this wins and wins big. If there isn't, it loses, but not as much as it would in a normal theatrical environment, which we'll likely never see again. So, it's worth the gamble.

PS - This now also puts me on the fence for Disney+ - I prefer movies to shows, and I don't know if I wanna pay full price for D+ and HBO Max, when I get Netflix free by phone and Prime for shipping. So, I'm one of those folks who just won't keep piling on streaming...

potentially a stupid question, but what is "DOM"?

 

[TwoMisfits]

potentially a stupid question, but what is "DOM"?

DOM = Domestic...HBO Max is currently only available in the US, so it only directly affects that market. DOM is theater board shorthand, like WW (for Worldwide) and INT (for International)...

 

[fatmanatee]

Nope, they never appear in MDE. We were missing several ride pics, at least a couple we saw who didn't have their mask on. The others missing we assumed people either removed or moved their masks down mid-ride.

Yikes.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

DOM = Domestic...HBO Max is currently only available in the US, so it only directly affects that market. DOM is theater board shorthand, like WW (for Worldwide) and INT (for International)...

thanks - I was trying to figure out what it stood for like "Digital Only Media" or something

 

[yulilin3]

It’s mostly for the people that are abiding to the rules that are being punished with no photo because other people aren’t listening to the rules

Imagine paying for memory maker, making an hour line on 7DMT and then not getting your pic cause the idiots behind are makskless. Yeah this is a good move

 

[Mit88]

I just want to throw it out there that since we started having kids 5 years ago, the ONLY movies we see in a theater are family/kids movies. Pre-kids we went to a movie every Sunday night.

But to find and pay $$$ for a sitter, plus the $$$ for the movie & food, and then spend our valuable time out alone not even talking to each other for 2.5 hours ... we would pay a premium to be able to stream a new release at home after the kids go to bed. I want the theatrical experience saved. I do. But it’s very hard for us as parents to see all the R/PG-13 releases that we want to see. Family stuff? We’re there.

And I understand that but, and I want to use this word loosely because it’s going to seem like an attack but I don’t mean it that way, it’s kind of selfish.

1, as I stated above, the theatrical experience provides jobs to a lot of people, and a lot of younger people, a lot of which is needed to put them through college.

2. These movies are available at home 90 days after they’re in theater, so it’s not like theatrical is exclusive. Where we’re heading, streaming is looking to become exclusive.

3. These directors are making these movies to be seen in theaters, not at home. Same with some actors, though actors will take jobs no matter where their film is screened. But we’re going to see the end of film as an art and begin to see film as a media conveyor belt. More SharkNado, less Ford v. Ferrari.

In the end, we may see more movies, but of far less quality, and far less jobs being given out

 

[xuxa777]

They really have no other option. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. If the vaccine holds, and Disneyland can open in June/July, the demand there from locals alone is going to be crazy.

If there are any locals left, many are moving out

 

[rteetz]

If there are any locals left, many are moving out

Lol maybe some but it’s not like hundreds of thousands are leaving.

 

[The Pho]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/12/disn...ace-masks-to-guests-faces-for-on-ride-photos/

This is the way forward... can't wait to hear the complaints about people not getting maskless photos.

I hope that they are just adding in generic blue masks here and not special Disney masks. Otherwise this could have the opposite effect of what they want (people intentionally removing masks to see the Disney ones).

 

[Violetspider]

3. These directors are making these movies to be seen in theaters, not at home. Same with some actors, though actors will take jobs no matter where their film is screened. But we’re going to see the end of film as an art and begin to see film as a media conveyor belt. More SharkNado, less Ford v. Ferrari.

In the end, we may see more movies, but of far less quality, and far less jobs being given out

Totally agree! I can't imagine James Cameron would have spent a decade of time and astronomical amounts of money working on new technologies to film Avatar 2, 3 and 4, if he knew going in that the movies would never make it to a big screen. I wonder what's going around in his mind right now.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

Lol maybe some but it’s not like hundreds of thousands are leaving.

Right. Right now the local demand is insanely high. If some move away it’s still going to be really really really high.

 

[Mit88]

I hope that they are just adding in generic blue masks here and not special Disney masks. Otherwise this could have the opposite effect of what they want (people intentionally removing masks to see the Disney ones).

Thats actually a good point.