Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[rpb718]

https://www.wdwmagic.com/dining/wol...ress-permanently-closed-at-disney-springs.htm
Sad for all those that loved this place as it's now permanently closed.

Back in the DtD days, this was my goto CS spot ahead of Earl of Sandwich. Sorry to say I haven't visited on recent trips instead preferring Morimoto street food and trying other new CS or TS places (seemed there was always some new place to try each trip in the intervening years).

Still I'm really sorry to see it go. Another remnant of the old DtD gone.

 

[rteetz]

It can be true and still mean more people are allowed into the parks. Every time they open a ride, show, restaurant, store, etc. the number that 25% represents increases.

Which they haven't done a lot of. I am not by any means thinking the parks are at 100% capacity but I think we are over 25%. We also have to look at 25% of what? Max capacity or average capacity. With this I would assume its max capacity.

 

[rteetz]

in this particular subject Disney values very little what guests want and is more focused on safety and pr, they won't change the safety guidelines for now even if a lot of guests complain and voice their opinions

Bob Chapek said on CNBC today that until the CDC changes their guidelines Disney will not change theirs.

 

[rpb718]

Yep. That's exactly our plans. But I still reserve the right to voice my dislike of the mask requirement. If people are afraid to voice their opinions, then how is Disney supposed to cater to their clientele?

Not sure how best to put this, but methods instituted in the interest of public safety isn't something that can be "catered".

 

[andyman8]

I always enjoyed this place.

One of the most reliable QS restaurants on property in my opinion and always a great, more affordable alternative at DS. I’m glad I got a meal in there back in January one last time.

 

[andyman8]

Not sure if this has been posted here but:
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/10/...-disney-world-to-inspect-reopening-protocols/As myself and others have been saying, as long as Disney feels like the CA Gov’s eye is on them in Florida, they’re going to play it safe (even if they’re growing frustrated with the state). Wouldn’t be surprised if Chapek’s CNBC answer on capacity was a subtle nod to the CA Gov.

 

[midnight star]

Yep. That's exactly our plans. But I still reserve the right to voice my dislike of the mask requirement. If people are afraid to voice their opinions, then how is Disney supposed to cater to their clientele?

I think some of the safety requirements in place (i.e. masks, distancing, low capacity), could be inline with what unions want to keep workers safe. So Disney may not be able to change rules based on agreements. Granted I don't follow too much of the union stuff, so I could be wrong...

 

[LSUmiss]

Yep. That's exactly our plans. But I still reserve the right to voice my dislike of the mask requirement. If people are afraid to voice their opinions, then how is Disney supposed to cater to their clientele?

Exactly. And ftr, I just took a survey about our current stay where I was asked specific questions about the mask requirements. So it seems Disney does care about opinions.

 

[Eeyore daily]

I don't understand why the mask requirement is still being argued about at this point. It's been that way since July and will be that way for the foreseeable future.

 

[rpb718]

Bob Chapek said on CNBC today that until the CDC changes their guidelines Disney will not change theirs.

The CDC is unlikely to reduce any current restrictions with new outbreaks moving to the northern states and flu season coming - unless they are forced to (and even so, if the CDC was obviously "forced" I'm not sure WDW would chance a change).

Not sure if this has been posted here but:
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/10/...-disney-world-to-inspect-reopening-protocols/As myself and others have been saying, as long as Disney feels like the CA Gov’s eye is on them in Florida, they’re going to play it safe (even if they’re growing frustrated with the state). Wouldn’t be surprised if Chapek’s CNBC answer on capacity was a subtle nod to the CA Gov.

Hope they don't go to DS and avoid parks on the weekends.

 

[LSUmiss]

in this particular subject Disney values very little what guests want and is more focused on safety and pr, they won't change the safety guidelines for now even if a lot of guests complain and voice their opinions

Not so sure about that. They’re sending surveys about it. I just took my second one. Disney will do whatever will make them the most money that they can get away with.

 

[rteetz]

Not so sure about that. They’re sending surveys about it. I just took my second one. Disney will do whatever will make them the most money that they can get away with.

Which is exactly why Disney announced they are putting emphasis on Direct to Consumer/Streaming. That is where the money is right now.

 

[Brianstl]

Not so sure about that. They’re sending surveys about it. I just took my second one. Disney will do whatever will make them the most money that they can get away with.

There is no reason to believe that the results of Disney's surveys are any different than the surveys being conducting of the general public on this topic. Those surveys give no one any reason to believe that mask policy will change anytime soon.

 

[LSUmiss]

There is no reason to believe that the results of Disney's surveys are any different than the surveys being conducting of the general public on this topic. Those surveys give no one any reason to believe that mask policy will change anytime soon.

I would say it depends on the results they get overtime. Otherwise what’s the point of asking the question?

 

[yulilin3]

I would say it depends on the results they get overtime. Otherwise what’s the point of asking the question?

I agree, obviously they want to know what guest want but will put more emphasis on safety for now, with the very small sample here on the dis we've seen majority wouldn't visit if these measures weren't in place

 

[andyman8]

I would say it depends on the results they get overtime. Otherwise what’s the point of asking the question?

The most common complaint Disney receives in its general Guest Experience surveys (back in normal times) is cost. Guests complain about the price A LOT yet ticket prices go up every year. Just because a survey yields a certain result doesn’t mean that it will change.

 

[Brianstl]

I would say it depends on the results they get overtime. Otherwise what’s the point of asking the question?

The polls and my personal experience in my community indicate mask wearing is becoming more popular. I think the general consensus is becoming people want just about everything opened back up and back much closer to normal, but they expect people to wear mask in public. The American public as usual is settling in the middle of the two extreme positions on an issue.

 

[hertamaniac]

Investing into DTC right now is fine, but it's not where I would allocate the highest % of my spending. I would like to see Disney inject those monies into the parks for build-up to handle capacity in the next 3-5 years. A theme park company that can position itself now with the attractions/resorts will be best leveraged to capitalize when a/the consumer tide comes; it's a gamble.

 

[TwoMisfits]

Which is exactly why Disney announced they are putting emphasis on Direct to Consumer/Streaming. That is where the money is right now.

It's where they are hoping the money is...this could end up failing as big as the post-Napster music digital battle (where music thought killing Napster would return folks to buying physical product). Now, they are killing theatrical and hoping to fully replace the profit with lower costs and slightly lowered revenue through their own digital...that's gonna be a helluva gamble after the Mulan flop on PVOD...

 

[rpb718]

The most common complaint Disney receives in its general Guest Experience surveys (back in normal times) is cost. Guests complain about the price A LOT yet ticket prices go up every year. Just because a survey yields a certain result doesn’t mean that it will change.

This. None of us want WDW prices to go up or new charges added (like resort parking) - but they happen regardless of what we want.

Survey or no survey - WDW knows no one wants to have to wear masks. And I'm equally sure WDW doesn't want to require everyone to wear masks. I'll go out on a limb and say that WDW will never make masks "recommended" since we all know once that happens there will be no masks. So they'll wait until it gets to the point where the CDC says masks are not necessary anymore. Even so, I still expect to see folks wearing masks in public just as I use to see before - possibly moreso - which is their choice. However while we are still within a public safety emergency, the choice needs to be made for us.

If folks could be trusted to do the right thing there would be no seat belt laws.