Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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But they did hit capacity over Labor Day weekend and then increased it yesterday. That's my point. They had no available DHS reservations from any bucket but then increased all buckets yesterday. The appeal of coming for the low crowds is going to wear off if you not only have to wait 60 min + for rides but also have the park close early. I won't be happy next week when I'm there if I have to wait so long for rides. I'll end up leaving which means I won't e spending money.

The lines are already approaching undesirable levels quite consistently for lots of the big rides. It's still "better" that it was before I'd say, but it's getting close to being no advantage at all. I do like that I don't have to mess with FP on my phone all day though.
 
The lines are already approaching undesirable levels quite consistently for lots of the big rides. It's still "better" that it was before I'd say, but it's getting close to being no advantage at all. I do like that I don't have to mess with FP on my phone all day though.
yep. I've been watching streams for weeks now. Going by what I'm seeing they should never have decreased the hours. I watched an MK stream the other day and at 8pm (an hour past closing) there were still a lot of people milling about. And now they're going to close at 6pm?! It was still decently busy at 6:30 pm that night too (not a weekend) so the advice about the last 90 minutes of park open being empty isn't holding true and certainly won't when it closes at 6pm!
 
It seems to me that it’s a lot safer to open a 99% outdoors Six Flags (or fun spot) than a 75% indoors Disneyland but what do I know.
I see that but I also think a company such as Disney or Universal may enforce better and have better restrictions in place than say a smaller or more outdoor park. There is a sense of more trust in those brands than some others.
 
I wonder if that more or less means theme parks with less restrictions but theme parks with heavy restrictions can open sooner.
I'd take it as a baseline. If you look at the initial FL reopening plans from late April, they put theme parks in phase two (which Florida is now just beginning after making a number of modifications/additions/rollbacks along the way) and then shifted them to a application model within "full" phase one. The reopening plans for most counties, cities, and states (of course including CA) have not ended up looking like what they all initially proposed in the spring. From the onset, CA has mostly left the theme parks in the dark (other than some vague statements). As the situation in Orange County continues to improve, I'd expect a more definitive timeline from the Governor for Disneyland (because money talks after all), but I think this is more political posturing (which I'm not saying is a bad thing in a situation this delicate) than an indictment of a 2020 Disneyland reopening. I could easily see him saying something like "We have very tough standards for theme parks to reopen to the masses, but given the significant and sweeping measures Disney has proposed, we're going to allow them to reopen select parts of their parks at an extremely limited capacity earlier than anticipated with certain essential protections for their visitors and employees." The Governor has a very good relationship with TWDC (and Iger in particular), so Disney won't be waiting as long as some rinky-dink small amusement park.
 

California released guidance today on Theme Park reopening. The county has to be in Yellow status. OC is currently in Purple. Each county has to qualify for a better status for 3 weeks to be moved. There are 3 steps (Purple, Red, and Orange) for OC to clear to get to Yellow. means 1 case per 100,000 residents, which only a handful of US counties currently meet, most of them sparsely populated.

So for those curious when Disneyland will reopen, it's going to be a WHILE.

Edited: my colorblind eyes saw green but apparently it’s yellow.

https://covid19.ca.gov/safer-economy/
Good to see them using the now more widely accepted and reliable cases per 100,000 measure.
 
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yep. I've been watching streams for weeks now. Going by what I'm seeing they should never have decreased the hours. I watched an MK stream the other day and at 8pm (an hour past closing) there were still a lot of people milling about. And now they're going to close at 6pm?! It was still decently busy at 6:30 pm that night too (not a weekend) so the advice about the last 90 minutes of park open being empty isn't holding true and certainly won't when it closes at 6pm!

I'm sure they are basing the hours on bookings and park reservation numbers which will be decreasing starting in September.

I am going in with pretty low expectations for LD weekend though and just hoping it will improve after that.
 

This is such a weird thing to say when the website explicitly states Theme Parks open in yellow phase. 🤷‍♂️
Ain’t nothing weird about it. Just CA politics 🙄 Theme parks went to the national news to run their side. Gov just reminded them who is actually in charge by releasing that and then played nice to everyone else by saying “actually idk... we’re gonna chat this afternoon...”

To be a fly on that wall...
 
on the subject of adverts that I know has been mentioned in here before, Universal orlando has started advertising on UK TV again in association with British Airways.

Bit optimistic considering we still can't actually enter USA though...
 
The lines are already approaching undesirable levels quite consistently for lots of the big rides. It's still "better" that it was before I'd say, but it's getting close to being no advantage at all. I do like that I don't have to mess with FP on my phone all day though.
I think that will bring attendance down eventually. The only advantage to going now & dealing with masks & closed is attractions is lower crowds.
 
Perhaps. I don’t think they wouldn’t win, but that won’t stop the lawsuits & negative PR from rolling in.
Positive in my eyes. Those people that think they dont have to follow the rules are wrong. They should not go if they can’t follow the guidelines. Simple. Go elsewhere.
 
2nd week of November hours released, stays the same as October and first week of Nov
Yuck, I was hoping they'd start extending them a bit later in the eve. So tempted to try and book over Christmas, especially now seeing there will be Halloween decorations but with those hours .... I don't know.
 
I think that will bring attendance down eventually. The only advantage to going now & dealing with masks & closed is attractions is lower crowds.

Agree with this. As someone coming from out of state for Labor Day wee , I feel like it was a bait-and-switch. I never would have kept my trip if I had known before I told the kids that lines will be just as long, but hours shorter, you have to wear a mask, no parades or fireworks, no character meals. I was willing to deal with all the rest of it specifically because of the shorter waits. So for them to take away the only benefit of going now, without giving back any of the other drawbacks to going now, is a disappointment. I completely understand the reasoning and know it was the risk I took. And of course, we want them to do what they have to do to survive this. But boy did it deflate my excitement. I just wish they would balance it out with going back to usual summer hours. A "surprise, we are staying open until midnight" would be nice. 😂
 
Where can I see AP rates? I only see Florida resident rates, which are still cheap. I was going to do a couple days staycation at Disney, but there really aren't any deals there to justify it right now, but I've always wanted to stay at Universal.

*edit* Found it. Universal's booking isn't very intuitive or straight forward. $189 was the cheapest it seemed. Not sure if it's worth it for me.

$189 a day for a holiday week at Royal Pacific is dirt cheap. They don’t usually have AP rates during holidays either. I paid more the week before fourth of July this year. The AP rate that week was was about $169 at Cabana Bay. That AP rate for Royal Pacific currently cheaper than the values at Disney for the same week. And $140 a night cheaper than my Caribbean Beach stay.

Loews/Universal has got to be hurting pretty bad to reduce their prices that low for Royal Pacific.
 
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Yuck, I was hoping they'd start extending them a bit later in the eve. So tempted to try and book over Christmas, especially now seeing there will be Halloween decorations but with those hours .... I don't know.

I’m sure they will extend the hours for Thanksgiving week and the two weeks at Xmas and New Years. Will they be the crazy extended hours they use to be? No, but I bet they open earlier and close later than they are currently slated for.
 
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