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Family Kicked Off MSC Grandiosa Cruise Ship for Breaking New Health Protocols

A simple "social bubble" rule to follow and they didn't adhere to it.

"The unnamed guests were apparently on a ship-sponsored shore excursion yesterday when they decided to go off on their own to explore the city, separating from the group."

https://www.travelpulse.com/news/cr...e-ship-for-breaking-new-health-protocols.html
I wondered how they thought they might control shore stop COVID exposure... “rule against guests disembarking at ports unless they’re participating in a guided, MSC-organized shore excursion and remain with the group at all times”

Banning people from leaving the ship unless they did the cruise line’s shore excursion did not even come to mind... what a weird cruise experience...
 
I wondered how they thought they might control shore stop COVID exposure... “rule against guests disembarking at ports unless they’re participating in a guided, MSC-organized shore excursion and remain with the group at all times”

Banning people from leaving the ship unless they did the cruise line’s shore excursion did not even come to mind... what a weird cruise experience...

I think the reverse entry procedure onto the ship did exactly what it was aimed to do. Did this family think they would somehow be exempt or did they just try to circumvent the procedure? I lean towards the latter, but am happy MSC captured it.
 
But that’s what’s so weird about BW, BC, WL, and AKL not even being on the schedule to reopen. You’d think if they needed to move people to resort side, they’d want those resorts open as well.

My guess id dvc members are footing a lot more of that bill right now.
 
Check your itinerary. Southwest changed my late October flight last night from a nonstop with a reasonable arrival time to a 6-hour odyssey with a layover in Nashville, arriving past 8 PM. No email alerting me to the change. I don’t care how many middle seats they leave open, that’s just not a reasonable change in itinerary. In fact, they canceled all nonstops to MCO out of my home airport for that day, so I requested a refund.

I agree, definitely check your itinerary. Southwest changed our nonstop to a layover in Nashville--with the second flight leaving 1.5 hours before the first flight arrived. The phone rep seemed a bit embarrassed and apologized profusely when I called to point out that time travel's not possible. She was very accommodating and quickly substituted exactly the new flights I requested.
 

I know it was posted here recently that wdw extended the cancellation policy, but was the 7 day out payment in full (vs. 30 days out) also extended?
 
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I agree, definitely check your itinerary. Southwest changed our nonstop to a layover in Nashville--with the second flight leaving 1.5 hours before the first flight arrived. The phone rep seemed a bit embarrassed and apologized profusely when I called to point out that time travel's not possible. She was very accommodating and quickly substituted exactly the new flights I requested.

Happened to me too. I randomly decided to check my flights one day and they had given me an overnight layover! No email notice or anything. Thankfully a rep was able to get it fixed. Now I just check my flights weekly to be safe.

Getting places isn't so easy these days ;)
 
I know it was posted here recently that wdw extended the cancellation policy, but was the 7 day out payment in full (vs. 30 days out) also extended?

I asked my Dreams Unlimited TA about this Tuesday and she said that as of now, they are still being told that after October 3, PIF is reverting to 30-days out (7-days out until 10/03) but now you’ll be able to cancel up to the day before check-in and get a full refund.
 
Seems odd to me that UOR and DLP are closing resorts down yet wdw is still opening more up.

Do you think the 5 resorts will reopen as planned later this year at this point or likely to be cancelled?
I don't think there's a chance they'll all open this year...I don't even think they'll all be open right away next yr.
 
I don't think there's a chance they'll all open this year...I don't even think they'll all be open right away next yr.

All of the resorts? No chance. Best Case for a resurgence in guests is Spring Break season 2021. Theres absolutely no reason to open them all up until guests are coming back in droves. People are going down more and more by the week, but its going to take a while for enough people to have money, and be at a comfort level to return for Disney to reopen all of the resorts. I think if everything progresses with or without a vaccine, we could see 20-25% of max capacity return to the parks in the spring. I think there are enough Disney diehards out there that will make their way down there close to, during, and shortly after the 50th celebrations that they’ll need all the resorts open. But its anyone’s guess
 
All of the resorts? No chance. Best Case for a resurgence in guests is Spring Break season 2021. Theres absolutely no reason to open them all up until guests are coming back in droves. People are going down more and more by the week, but its going to take a while for enough people to have money, and be at a comfort level to return for Disney to reopen all of the resorts. I think if everything progresses with or without a vaccine, we could see 20-25% of max capacity return to the parks in the spring. I think there are enough Disney diehards out there that will make their way down there close to, during, and shortly after the 50th celebrations that they’ll need all the resorts open. But its anyone’s guess
And it's important to keep in mind that it's not only tourists who fill Disney Resort rooms. The All-Star Resorts, for example, heavily dependent on large youth groups, sport groups, cheer competition participants, etc... to fill most of their rooms during many times of the year. Those types of events will be some of the last things to come back, given both the nature of the events (large gatherings) and the time required to plan the events. Even if conditions were deemed safe enough for them to occur in March, they still require months of planning, booking, and prep that wouldn't likely begin until conditions are deemed safe. All that is to say it will be a while until all of the Disney Resorts are back open.
 
I don't think there's a chance they'll all open this year...I don't even think they'll all be open right away next yr.
Attendance would have to be absolutely abysmal for WDW to cancel the reopenings of GF and CSR since they're essentially already open, just not to the general public. A good chunk of both of the hotels' staff has already been called back and the facilities are being maintained and are in operation. That's why when they rejiggered the resort reopening schedule, these two and YC were the only resorts whose dates stayed firm. Obviously, anything could happen and Disney could call them off, but I'd bet they'd first look to change dates for Polynesian and AoA. I've been told that a lot of it will depend on late September attendance, October bookings, and October attendance. While WDW is prepared for a pretty brutal September, October will likely determine a lot of the immediate plans for the rest of the year and into early 2021.
 
And it's important to keep in mind that it's not only tourists who fill Disney Resort rooms. The All-Star Resorts, for example, heavily dependent on large youth groups, sport groups, cheer competition participants, etc... to fill most of their rooms during many times of the year. Those types of events will be some of the last things to come back, given both the nature of the events (large gatherings) and the time required to plan the events. Even if conditions were deemed safe enough for them to occur in March, they still require months of planning, booking, and prep that wouldn't likely begin until conditions are deemed safe. All that is to say it will be a while until all of the Disney Resorts are back open.
They may end up filling the All Stars in November and December with college basketball programs. They are working on plans to create a non-conference bubble at WDW that revolves around the early season tournamentS Disney/ESPN runs. Not close to being done yet, but there is movement headed that way.
 
So at MK for example...all rides go down at 11, 1, 3, and 5?
It definitely wasn't all rides at once, but that was around the time for cleaning cycles. I'm guessing they staggered the cleaning, maybe 15 minutes before/after those hours... because I seem to remember hitting cleaning cycles for multiple rides within those times... luckily some rides are quicker to clean than others, so they're not all down for 20 minutes. Also for rides like small world (loading 2 boats at same time) they were still loading half the boats while cleaning the others, so the ride isn't completely down...just capacity has been limited even more.
 
Family Kicked Off MSC Grandiosa Cruise Ship for Breaking New Health Protocols

A simple "social bubble" rule to follow and they didn't adhere to it.

"The unnamed guests were apparently on a ship-sponsored shore excursion yesterday when they decided to go off on their own to explore the city, separating from the group."

https://www.travelpulse.com/news/cr...e-ship-for-breaking-new-health-protocols.html
Similarly, apparently a family refused to wear masks on a France TGV rail service recently, so they stopped the train and off boarded them in the middle of no where in France :rotfl2:
 
Similarly, apparently a family refused to wear masks on a France TGV rail service recently, so they stopped the train and off boarded them in the middle of no where in France :rotfl2:

I have no problem setting a zero tolerance policy when it comes to these conditions. In fact, it sets a strong precedent that if you're not in compliance, you'll be left to fend for yourself logistically and financially. Maybe that's what it takes to sink in.

I presume the tubes/trains in London have a similar policy.
 
I have no problem setting a zero tolerance policy when it comes to these conditions. In fact, it sets a strong precedent that if you're not in compliance, you'll be left to fend for yourself logistically and financially. Maybe that's what it takes to sink in.

I presume the tubes/trains in London have a similar policy.

I Disney adopted a zero tolerance policy, and there was even one story of a party getting ejected from the parks for flagrant disregard of safety rules, I’d be buying my tickets and reserving my resort right now.
 
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