Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[DGsAtBLT]

But this is true of anywhere you go. I don't think Disney is inherently any less safe than going to the grocery store. Honestly, I think it's probably more safe as I *know* my local grocery store doesn't go to the lengths that Disney does for cleaning and mask enforcement.

I think this comparison that is brought up all the time, so I don’t mean to pick on you specifically, is giving people a false sense of security.

For one, this is highly dependant on where you live. Someone who is very local to Disney? Okay, maybe similar risk, kind of. Then you also need to consider that the grocery store is a necessity and cannot be avoided for most like a Disney trip can. You have the ability to be in and out pretty quickly for groceries. You probably aren’t taking the entire family. If you’re going to Disney and even more so if you’re traveling you’re exposing yourself to tens of thousands (or more) of different people throughout the course of your trip. You are no doubt much safer going to a grocery store for an hour in an area where cases are not spiking than traveling to Florida to a week right now.

If people are choosing to go that is their business, but I think the comparison is flawed.

 

[cakebaker]

This was from a stay this past week?

If so highly doubt they got it from staying at Disney.

Most likely contracted somewhere before Disney.

What it does mean though is they were at WDW and could have infected others. That’s not near as likely with the parks closed, but it’s not like this will be an isolated incident.

 

[Doingitagain]

Saw this...apparently an update to the DVC last night. Jambo house villas back on the menu for July 10?View attachment 504568

Is this new or has it been there for awhile?
Because Jambo was on this list for July 10th and then was removed and is still missing.
https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/e...lSQcWQHa47PN2J8J0WUF9XDWDAk_ln28KIuAH08gxO1-4

The July 10 has been there since the non DVC announcement was made. They just added the part about Uzima pool and the internal shuttle.

 

[sixcats]

Minimum from exposure to start of symptoms that we have seen has been 2 days. It’s plausible I suppose but go down, get exposed, come back, get tested, get results means that every single step would have had to occur at the first possible point in the time window. Either exceptionally bad luck or exposure was before they went.

Maybe it was Hilton Head or Vero Beach? Resorts that opened on the 22nd seems unlikely.

 

[Dentam]

I live in the second hardest hit state in the country - NJ.

I think you are in danger of losing this title very soon if not already unfortunately.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Which is why there are like a hundred disclaimers on the MDE and when you make reservations.

Yes. I don’t mean to imply Disney does not have their behinds covered or anything, just pointing out to the people who will come along and no doubt be worried about hearing things like this and want to know details like where and when they stayed that this kind of thing should be expected going and is a risk you need to be okay with.

Disney is doing a lot to prevent spread, but at the end of the day you’re still going to have people who are contagious walking around the parks and resorts.

 

[abnihon]

Nevermind found it!

 

[Ninjagrrl]

I think you are in danger of losing this title very soon if not already unfortunately.

Perhaps, but one thing I've noticed is that while Florida is shooting up in positives, the fatality rate is much slower. Florida is almost caught up to NJ in positives, but Florida is only at 3k deaths compared to our 13k.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Could very well mean they picked it up beforehand somewhere and were possibly contagious during the trip.

A very real possibility people who are choosing to go to places with large crowds will be facing with right now. If you’re going to Disney, there’s no reason to think you won’t be exposed to people who have COVID-19.

Given timing I think it more likely they were infected before, which brings up 2 things:

1) example of people were were infected and went to WDW as they weren't showing symptons
2) how bad PR can come out about Disney as stories like this come out "I went to Disney and got Covid"- Even if not clear that is where they got it

 

[TheMaxRebo]

NEWS

Universal Japan delays opening of Super Nintendo World

https://tdrexplorer.com/universal-studios-japan-delays-opening-of-super-nintendo-world/

 

[Dentam]

Perhaps, but one thing I've noticed is that while Florida is shooting up in positives, the fatality rate is much slower. Florida is almost caught up to NJ in positives, but Florida is only at 3k deaths compared to our 13k.

Yes, good point. I've read that the cases there have been more in younger people who are better able to fight the virus. That's good news for hospitals in the area for sure. The fear is of these younger folks spreading it to more vulnerable populations though.

 

[courtney1188]

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So the entire family stayed at a DVC resort that just opened on June 22 (5 days ago), returned from their trip, got tested and received their positive test results on or before June 26? I’d say that seems awfully darn fast.

it is awfully darn fast, thought I’m not loving the implication that I’m lying about it. Yes, they were staying for a few nights starting right when they opened. We have clinics here in Michigan that test you and have a result within a half hour. With our numbers being about 300 cases statewide per day (though we’ve seen as low as below 100), were not backlogged and results come quickly.

Who knows where they contracted it, but it seems likely they would have been contagious when they were there. Hence me saying be careful. Obviously hopefully people are being careful anyways, but maybe hearing about an actual case of contagious people there will help. I was pretty angry when I heard about it because I know this family was not being careful - they’ve come in my husband’s store not wearing masks, for example.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

It's also possible that they were exposed before they even went to WDW, bc it can take weeks to show symptoms.

This was from a stay this past week?

If so highly doubt they got it from staying at Disney.

Most likely contracted somewhere before Disney.

No one will ever know where they got it, but this is the problem with people traveling in to Florida and making the problem there worse. Let’s say this family was asymptomatic and didn’t know they had it before they came. Sure, they’re staying at DVC where Disney has protocols and crowds are light right now.

Did they fly? Did they wear their masks on the plane? Did they go to Publix to get groceries? Were they wearing masks when they went? Were they close to someone while not wearing masks on the pool deck? What surfaces did they touch before they were cleaned? How many people did they expose while staying in FL?

It doesn’t really matter where they picked it up because even if they already had it, they brought it to WDW. It’s going to be so much harder to control this once more and more people start coming.

 

[cakebaker]

Perhaps, but one thing I've noticed is that while Florida is shooting up in positives, the fatality rate is much slower. Florida is almost caught up to NJ in positives, but Florida is only at 3k deaths compared to our 13k.

The problem is, you don’t have to die to suffer significant and possibly lifelong negative effects from having contracted it. We’re just beginning to learn the damage this disease can do.

 

[NWOhiogal]

Honestly, if Florida's numbers keep going up, it's hugely irresponsible of Disney to open on July 11. No matter how careful they are, WDW is going to be one huge petri dish. Infected people are going to show up and infect hundreds if not thousands of others. It needs to stay closed until Florida gets this under control.

 

[cakebaker]

It’s going to be so much harder to control this once more and more people start coming.

It’s not being controlled now and no signs that there is any interest in doing so. At this point, if they’re not going to lockdown, FL will lose the battle whether tourists come or not. It’ll just happen faster if they do. And if the choice is just let it run it’s course, and that seems to be what’s being chosen, might as well do it and get it over with it.

 

[yulilin3]

Makes me think about how many people could be walking around Disney Springs right now spreading it unknowingly. And then the parks once those open.

I approach going out by assuming everyone has the virus. Been visiting UOR and DS and SW since they opened and now also Contemporary and BW/BC area. with that in m ind I take my precautions , mask, I don't touch my face and constant hand washing and hand sanitizing. That's all anyone coming can do. All the theme parks have made being safe very easy, there's absolutely no excuse to not sanitize your hands.

 

[courtney1188]

This was from a stay this past week?

If so highly doubt they got it from staying at Disney.

Most likely contracted somewhere before Disney.

I’m not trying to pin an outbreak on Disney here - just saying there are going to be contagious people there who have not been acting carefully and taking proper precautions (as was the case with this family) - so please, everyone try to follow those precautions and stay safe!

 

[NWOhiogal]

The problem is, you don’t have to die to suffer significant and possibly lifelong negative effects from having contracted it. We’re just beginning to learn the damage this disease can do.

Exactly. Many, if not most, of those who show bad symptoms end up with chronic health problems that they might have forever - bronchitis, brain damage, respiratory and lung, kidney, and liver problems. Permanent loss of taste and smell. This virus is not messing around.

 

[Marionnette]

it is awfully darn fast, thought I’m not loving the implication that I’m lying about it. Yes, they were staying for a few nights starting right when they opened. We have clinics here in Michigan that test you and have a result within a half hour. With our numbers being about 300 cases statewide per day (though we’ve seen as low as below 100), were not backlogged and results come quickly.

Who knows where they contracted it, but it seems likely they would have been contagious when they were there. Hence me saying be careful. Obviously hopefully people are being careful anyways, but maybe hearing about an actual case of contagious people there will help. I was pretty angry when I heard about it because I know this family was not being careful - they’ve come in my husband’s store not wearing masks, for example.

I didn’t mean to imply that you were lying. My point was that DVC just opened a few days ago. It stretches credibility that a family return (already) and immediately went to get tested so that they had a test result by the 26th. I don’t think you’re lying. I think that your source might be stretching things a bit.