Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Mit88]

Just saw on Facebook that Uniqlo at Disney Springs closed down early afternoon today. Not known why.

To re-theme it to a Princess and the Frog store

 

[Krandor]

I really do think Disney has a lot of measures put into place so they could remain open through a 2nd (3rd, continuous, whatever) wave.

Whether they expected it to explode like this before they opened, who knows, but I think they may be more prepared than we know for numbers to explode at some point.

I Agree but the timing of this is potentially horrible for them. The last thing they want is a headline like "as floida sets new records, disneyworld reopens". Staying open during a spike is easier PR-wise then opening back up during one.

Still a lot of time until the 11th though.

 

[dlavender]

I Agree but the timing of this is potentially horrible for them. The last thing they want is a headline like "as floida sets new records, disneyworld reopens". Staying open during a spike is easier PR-wise then opening back up during one.

Still a lot of time until the 11th though.

They definitely have some time. They wont and shouldn't make any calls off of a few days of data.

But another week like this one, or a worse week, well then they have some thinking to do....

 

[JacknSally]

Still a lot of time until the 11th though.

Especially because in 2020, time now moves in dog years. July 11 is 176 days away at this point. March 2020 was 6 years ago.

 

[AmberMV]

At least in Disney‘s case, the management level that makes these decisions plays it all very close to their chest. They (perhaps justifiably so) understand that trickling down things to the operations level that would have to implement things like delays to the reservation system gets everyone talking... a lot.

This community has already witnessed what the execs would view as over-dissemination to the ranks manifest itself as “confusion,” one hand not knowing what the other is doing, etc. Having guests continue to plan unfortunately is not sufficient evidence to rule out a delay, poor guest service not withstanding.

The more and more media attention Florida gets for Covid cases rising and the shutting down of reopened bars in FL and similiar states going even further in the reshutdown, the more and more likely I think tonight we may get some bad news.

 

[Mit88]

I don't get the need for snark here....

I thought the reason we shut down was to avoid that.......and then we would gradually reopen and no longer see those spikes.....especially elsewhere.......

Are you saying you genuinely expected to see FL hit 9k cases yesterday with a 13% positivity rate?

Not yesterday specifically...but eventually, yes, yes I did. Theres not a bubble over cities and states or a bouncer at the border telling the virus they’re not allowed in. Every state was eventually going to get hit hard. Some of the more denser cities were going to get hit harder than ones that arent as dense in population, but in some form, every state was going to see a spike eventually. Just because your city or town hasn’t gotten hit yet doesnt mean youre in the clear

Like when Disney announced the cancellation of ADRs and FP+, and they started cancelling everyone’s and then there were people that hadnt had theres cancelled yet saying “Do you think because Disney hasn’t cancelled my reservations yet, I’m going to be able to keep mine?”. Nope

 

[EmJ]

I don't get the need for snark here....

I thought the reason we shut down was to avoid that.......and then we would gradually reopen and no longer see those spikes.....especially elsewhere.......

Are you saying you genuinely expected to see FL hit 9k cases yesterday with a 13% positivity rate?

Unfortunately, we did the shutdown part but then got bored and tired and threw caution to the wind instead of doing the gradual reopening. Of course, no one actually said there would be 9,000 new cases and a 13% positivity rate in Florida on June 26, but the nation was warned, and warned, and warned, and warned by medical professionals and epidemiologists that we were opening too fast and before appropriate stability bench marks had been reached, and that this would be the result. And so now it is.

 

[Krandor]

Especially because in 2020, time now moves in dog years. July 11 is 176 days away at this point. March 2020 was 6 years ago.

So that makes the 5 months and 4 days until your 4th anniversary trip when?

 

[IceSkatingPrincess]

Especially because in 2020, time now moves in dog years. July 11 is 176 days away at this point. March 2020 was 6 years ago.

ACCURATE.

 

[Farro]

I don't know. I don't know.

If Disney stays strict with capacity limits, really enforces the mask rule, enforces social distancing, cleaning, hand sanitizing, checking everyone's health...maybe they don't need to close? I have no stake in this, but I'd feel so bad for everyone planning to go in July.

As scared as everyone sounds right now, most may make decision not to go.

I still can't believe you aren't required to wear masks, bizarre. Just came back from being out and still in Chicago, unless people are out walking alone, everyone in masks. I have honestly not seen anyone in a store without a mask on. Not even attempting it.

 

[dlavender]

Not yesterday specifically...but eventually, yes, yes I did. Theres not a bubble over cities and states or a bouncer at the border telling the virus they’re not allowed in. Every state was eventually going to get hit hard. Some of the more denser cities were going to get hit harder than ones that arent as dense in population, but in some form, every state was going to see a spike eventually. Just because your city or town hasn’t gotten hit yet doesnt mean youre in the clear

Like when Disney announced the cancellation of ADRs and FP+, and they started cancelling everyone’s and then there were people that hadnt had theres cancelled yet saying “Do you think because Disney hasn’t cancelled my reservations yet, I’m going to be able to keep mine?”. Nope

So you were expecting a spike, but this one still caught you off guard? Meaning it happened sooner than even you who were expecting it did.....

That's why I think it's important to note....

Just like a storm that shows up stronger or sooner than predicted. Can't then blame people saying "you knew one was coming eventually" for planning a trip when they thought it would be safe....no?

 

[Jiminy76]

Actually, they closed when a government order was in the place. The state of emergency was declared. I had a lengthy conversation with them regarding it. But, they can’t deem it unsafe to have DVC closed And keep owners off property but open resorts for other guests, including NBA players.

Since DeSantis has indicated he isn’t going to shut down WDW, DVC won’t be closed again.

Seems like this really puts DIS in a really difficult situation. As long as the NBA is there they cannot shutdown DVC which makes it tough to not open the parks, as this would lead to mass cancellations at the resorts. Then they would essentially be keeping all the DVC resorts running with hardly anyone in them. That would be a huge money trap.

 

[JacknSally]

So that makes the 5 months and 4 days until your 4th anniversary trip when?

I've given up on a countdown - it's mostly for decoration now LOL. At this rate I don't think we'll take our 5th anniversary trip until our 10th anniversary! Hopefully our resort will be open by then!

 

[Mit88]

So you were expecting a spike, but this one still caught you off guard? Meaning it happened sooner than even you who were expecting it did.....

That's why I think it's important to note....

Just like a storm that shows up stronger or sooner than predicted. Can't then blame people saying "you knew one was coming eventually" for planning a trip when they thought it would be safe....no?

I’m not a doctor or scientist, so last tuesday when news was going out that cases were growing in Florida I didnt say “Florida will have 9,000 new cases on Friday afternoon, June 26th, 2020 at 4:58pm”.

But I did know that if cases start rising in an area that hasn’t gotten hit yet, theres a VERY good possibility that the numbers are going to continue to rise to a number that will scare people. I know that, because I live in New York and saw it happen.

 

[FatBambi]

I feel like to announce tonight that they're delaying the reopening would just seem like a knee-jerk reaction... We still have time to watch the data, and I still feel like Disney will really be enforcing their safety policies which is the thing that's unsafe in the rest of the state. Still, I'm going to be a nervous wreck, probably for the whole 29 days until my trip.

 

[dlavender]

I’m not a doctor or scientist, so last tuesday when news was going out that cases were growing in Florida I didnt say “Florida will have 9,000 new cases on Friday afternoon, June 26th, 2020 at 4:58pm”.

But I did know that if cases start rising in an area that hasn’t gotten hit yet, theres a VERY good possibility that the numbers are going to continue to rise to a number that will scare people. I know that, because I live in New York and saw it happen.

So we are probably close then, I expected to see the normal rise, like from 5k to maybe 6k, but the doubling caught me off guard.....

As did the steady over 10% positivity rate.

I just don't think its a real fair assessment to say everyone shouldn't be shocked by a doubling....yeah we knew it was on the rise, but not like that.......YMMV

 

[TwoMisfits]

So you were expecting a spike, but this one still caught you off guard? Meaning it happened sooner than even you who were expecting it did.....

That's why I think it's important to note....

Just like a storm that shows up stronger or sooner than predicted. Can't then blame people saying "you knew one was coming eventually" for planning a trip when they thought it would be safe....no?

Well, if they made it non-refundable.

I've already canceled 4 trips to 4 different places this year, and my new plan is to book and go 1 week out (one month out was too far b/c I had to cancel for this weekend for an outbreak state where on Memorial Day, they were fine). Everything changes so much in a 2 week period, that's as much certainty as anyone can maybe get now...and even 1 week out might be too far...

 

[SaintsManiac]

I've given up on a countdown - it's mostly for decoration now LOL. At this rate I don't think we'll take our 5th anniversary trip until our 10th anniversary! Hopefully our resort will be open by then!

I'm 323 days out. Too scared to make a countdown ticker...

 

[hereforthechurros]

Today I posted that guest services told us we would be able to buy tickets 6/28. In talking to my husband it seems she may have slipped up when she said that, she then said “some time this summer.”

He left out that part while telling me what she was saying even though I was sitting right next to him. Not happy with him!!! I am SO sorry for getting hopes up. Back to not knowing when tickets go on sale and sad we lost our tickets without any idea if/when we can repurchase.

Sorry again I know how on edge everyone is already

 

[Farro]

I'm 323 days out. Too scared to make a countdown ticker...

I'm 306.

I'm pretty much packed.