Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[unbanshee]

I could see a class action lawsuit coming on season passes. Particularly for residents of ny-nj-ct they legally couldn't visit WDW but I imagine a solution for everyone is coming.

Thankfully they will be able to visit once the theme parks open as the current order is set to expire before July 11th

https://blogmickey.com/2020/06/tri-...t-to-expire-before-disney-theme-parks-reopen/

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Disney doesnt often lose in court. And I dont envision this being any different. But I think a PR hit from your loyal customers that have APs, like the locals, is going to be different than normal PR hits from either outside perspectives from the media, or guests making a trip once every 5 years.

I dont think they’ll actually do it because they both seem too nice to, but the Trackers making a video saying that they wouldnt buy an AP again because they felt screwed out of this year’s pass, and now that uncertainties are in the back of everyone’s mind, I think they’d be more afraid of that type of reaction than just a normal guest

You are more optimistic than I am in terms of them caring about us being upset lol.

And this will be me if any of the bigger bloggers said something like that . I can’t see any of them biting the hand that feeds them.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Thankfully they will be able to visit once the theme parks open as the current order is set to expire before July 11th

https://blogmickey.com/2020/06/tri-...t-to-expire-before-disney-theme-parks-reopen/

Last time the order was set to expire they extended it.

 

[unbanshee]

Last time the order was set to expire they extended it.

Hopefully they don't extend it again then. As of right now though, tri-state is looking good

 

[Mit88]

You are more optimistic than I am in terms of them caring about us being upset lol.

And this will be me if any of the bigger bloggers said something like that . I can’t see any of them biting the hand that feeds them.

I cant either. But unless Disney pays for the passes of some of these bloggers, is it really going to be worth it to them to renew if they can only go 3 times a month? Sure, you’re still getting your moneys worth in the end. But if the price is the same, and the restrictions are still around when its time to renew? I think some of them ride it out and wait until things get a little bit more normal

 

[MusicalAstronaut]

Mathwise that doesn't make any sense. Everyone lost 4 months... extending my 3/30 expired pass to 4/14 or whatever would be beyond idiotic.

Why wouldn't it make sense? My pass expired May 10th. I lost 2 months, not 4, so it doesn't make sense to give me 2 extra months for free. This is what Disney has been saying from the beginning. You'd be extended the number of days that the parks were closed, *for when your pass was valid.*

 

[MusicalAstronaut]

Both of those things would be the same: extended for the number of days you lost and the 117 days "other passes are getting" actually works out to be the same expiration date.

For example:
My pass expired on March 31st. I had 15 days left when they closed the parks. Parks are reopening on July 11th. the closure period is 117 days (almost 4 months).

Number of days I lost: When you add 15 days to July 11th, my pass should expire on July 26.

Number of days of the closure: When you add 117 days to the original expiration date in my pass (March 31) you get July 26th.

It's exactly the same. Of course, my expired AP has not yet been extended, but once extended, my new expiration date should be July 26.

I know that. The person I was replying to seemed to be saying that passes that expired during the shutdown wouldn't be extended at all. We're getting the days we lost, not the full 4 months, because that doesn't make sense.

 

[BrianR]

We have 4 kids, 1 tween and 3 young and close in age. We've never once taken a midday break. (Although now I'm questioning that decision, since we never went to SAB any of the times we've stayed at BC and YC. Apparently we should've been going to SAB, given how upset everyone is at it being closed.) Most of our friends also have kids, and I tend to read online reviews/discussions about traveling w kids. Based on what friends and people online say, it's apparent that a lot of families have a routine and don't ever consider there are other ways of doing things (I think a lot of parents assume their kids are inflexible, when in reality it's the parents who aren't flexible and don't give the kids a chance and/or influence the kids.) I know there are always special circumstances, but for the most part, people are comfortable with what they know and will insist they can't do something another way, such as alter how they vacation (eg, they MUST take an afternoon break). Unfortunately, it looks like for the foreseeable future, we're all going to have to go with the flow and work with new policies if we want to visit a Disney property.

Yeah we ended up in the "pump our kids full of sugar because the families with a set bedtime are gone" method back when the Magic Kingdom EMH would go long past midnight and it worked well, until they pretty much dropped those night hours not too long ago. Tons of ways to tour with small kids if families put the house rules aside on vacation.


Also I found some test footage of a guy not wanting to get his AP strike for not showing up:

 

[BrianR]

yes but he even said he probably won't go to Disney right away. They also won't eat at restaurant or do any inside rides. They have both stated Tim will be the only one going for quite a while. It's totaly their choice but they're terrified of something that has basically a 0% of killing them.

If you thought that you would never have a child and after years it actually happened I would be super precautious too. I don't fault them at all for that.

 

[Mit88]

I don’t even consider myself scared and my province is doing very well (like, active cases in the single digits well) and we are still on the fence about going to the zoo. 4 major theme parks to me is someone pretty comfortable with the risk level of going out in a pandemic, but I guess there’s only so much you can film at home.

They should have at least taken a couple weeks off. But it seems like they feel obligated to make videos. As someone that has watched them for 5 years now, I think they’ve earned a little “me time” together, without a camera.

 

[Sandisw]

Last time the order was set to expire they extended it.

Actually, it was last extended in early May. I do not see it being extended again as he would have to extend his state of emergency.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

yes but he even said he probably won't go to Disney right away. They also won't eat at restaurant or do any inside rides. They have both stated Tim will be the only one going for quite a while. It's totaly their choice but they're terrified of something that has basically a 0% of killing them.

Joking aside I am really impressed with the bloggers, twitter Disney people, whatever you want to call them, who are talking about the risks of going to the parks during a pandemic and aren’t just pretending it’s all good cause it’s opening.

My twitter feed has become the opposite of the attitudes expressed in this thread which is kind of refreshing.

 

[Mit88]

Also I found some test footage of a guy not wanting to get his AP strike for not showing up:

Thats me when EPCOT tells me I need to do 4 consecutive days to get a special AP item during food and wine.

Scan in, and leave.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Thats me when EPCOT tells me I need to do 4 consecutive days to get a special AP item during food and wine.

Scan in, and leave.

Guilty haha.

In hindsight I’m glad we did though, a fun little souvenir from what is likely to be our only trip as passholders. #thankscovid

 

[chicagoshannon]

Joking aside I am really impressed with the bloggers, twitter Disney people, whatever you want to call them, who are talking about the risks of going to the parks during a pandemic and aren’t just pretending it’s all good cause it’s opening.

My twitter feed has become the opposite of the attitudes expressed in this thread which is kind of refreshing.

I haven't seen a single Vlogger telling people to come. They are all like don't come because the masks suck and the experience isn't good right now (long waits ect.) That's gotta hurt the parks in some way.

 

[one_cat]

Since we are talking about APs again, here is a thought that I would categorize in the “dream on” category:

Since hopping is apparently not a thing anymore and APs are especially problematic why don’t they abolish APs and reintroduce “no expiration date” daily park passes. For those with unexpired APs they could give them the number of park passes to match what is left on their APs. I think I could guarantee that nobody would go home unhappy with that plan and Disney would not have to issue any refunds, preserving cash.

 

[chicagoshannon]

Since we are talking about APs again, here is a thought that I would categorize in the “dream on” category:

Since hopping is apparently not a thing anymore and APs are especially problematic why don’t they abolish APs and reintroduce “no expiration date” daily park passes. For those with unexpired APs they could give them the number of park passes to match what is left on their APs. I think I could guarantee that nobody would go home unhappy with that plan and Disney would not have to issue any refunds, preserving cash.

it would be way cheaper for Disney to just refund.

 

[SarahC97]

Thats me when EPCOT tells me I need to do 4 consecutive days to get a special AP item during food and wine.

Scan in, and leave.

Don't attempt the entires back to back. I may or may not have attempted this in a short period of time and had security called on me.

 

[Mit88]

Don't do it back to back. I may or may not have attempted this and had security called on me.

What would you get in trouble for? Theres nothing that states how long you have to be in the park for.

“Oh darn, I forgot something in my car”

 

[SarahC97]

What would you get in trouble for? Theres nothing that states how long you have to be in the park for.

“Oh darn, I forgot something in my car”

I exited and entered like 4 times in a row in about a half-hour. They called security to ensure I wasn't just trying to sneak people in on my band.