Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[DGsAtBLT]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/05/disn...4ZXAxchG2EjZfJPlLjPUKMa_-wvjaB7r7mfm_rrHnFKOo

Wow! I am genuinely shocked by this one. I certainly hope that means they are planning on strongly enforcing their own rules once the parks are open (some scattered reports from DS don't look promising for that, maybe it's a learning curve), because otherwise how do they stick to this one when people are running around the parks without their masks?

 

[andyman8]

I almost booked Sapphire Falls today. Last week I hard Hard Rock in my cart for June 1 and now it’s unavailable, it’s showing for June 2 though. Strange.

I know UOR’s online booking system is beyond weird in general. Especially around HHN season, you could search five times and get five totally different results within five minutes. It makes DisneyWorld.com look like a beacon reliable tech. I’m tempted to chalk it up to that, but we’ll see.

 

[The Pho]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/05/disn...4ZXAxchG2EjZfJPlLjPUKMa_-wvjaB7r7mfm_rrHnFKOo

Well that’s interesting. Isn’t that in violation of the ADA? Even if it isn’t, and I’m pretty sure it is, I just have to assume they’re will be lawsuits from that move.

Edit: Seems it is allowed.

 

[C&Jx2]

I’m sorry. I’m really busy studying to take my state boards and it’s hard to keep up on this thread because it moves fast.

Did I miss anything notable from today’s meetings?

TIA!

 

[cm8]

What’s the reasoning behind WDW not giving a date? Any guesses?

Disboard’s Meddling Detectives?

 

[Cinderbrella1]

My VAH tix for 6/12 disappeared around 4:30/5:00 ish on MDE, but I hit refresh again and they were back! I also received more recipes from Disney, but not from Disney Destinations this time, they're from My Disney?!!

 

[SarahC97]

Well that’s interesting. Isn’t that in violation of the ADA? Even if it isn’t, and I’m pretty sure it is, I just have to assume they’re will be lawsuits from that move.

The ADA does allow restrictions when an individual would pose a direct threat to the health or safety of others. As of March 2020, the EEOC has declared that the COVID-19 pandemic meets the direct threat standard, based on guidance from the CDC and public health authorities regarding the risk of community spread and institution of restrictions.

Disney has hoards of lawyers. I'm sure they wouldn't make a move that would open them up to potential ADA violation claims.

 

[MusicalAstronaut]

Well that’s interesting. Isn’t that in violation of the ADA?

I don’t believe so. Someone linked an article citing the ADA saying something along the lines of there being exceptions during global emergencies and this qualifies as one. Basically reasonable accommodations should be made, but in this case not wearing the mask would endanger other people so it’s an exception. I’ll see if I can find exactly what it said because that’s a terrible summary.

 

[Marissa227]

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[tinkerhon]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/05/disn...4ZXAxchG2EjZfJPlLjPUKMa_-wvjaB7r7mfm_rrHnFKOo

I'm not surprised that they took this stance, but I wonder about those with disabilities , and/or handicapped individuals - I skimmed the text, but assuming same would apply to all that might have sensory issues, ( for example) and can't wear the mask ?
So, hypothetically, if you are in perfect physical health ( let's say just for argument sake that you were recently tested for the virus, and test negative) , but due to other issues, you can't wear a mask, you would not be permitted - ?
Not taking sides - just curious how the situation MIGHT be handled -

 

[andyman8]

Wow! I am genuinely shocked by this one. I certainly hope that means they are planning on strongly enforcing their own rules once the parks are open (some scattered reports from DS don't look promising for that, maybe it's a learning curve), because otherwise how do they stick to this one when people are running around the parks without their masks?

I’ve seen several reports online of those Children’s Activities CMs reminding guests to keep theirs on. I don’t think it’s possible to expect Disney to ensure every single guest is wearing it every single moment of the day, but my guess is that as more DS locations come online and as they bring back more of the Children’s Activities CMs, we’ll see even more “enforcement.”

 

[J-BOY]

I'm not surprised that they took this stance, but I wonder about those with disabilities , and/or handicapped individuals - I skimmed the text, but assuming same would apply to all that might have sensory issues, ( for example) and can't wear the mask ?
So, hypothetically, if you are in perfect physical health ( let's say just for argument sake that you were recently tested for the virus, and test negative) , but due to other issues, you can't wear a mask, you would not be permitted - ?
Not taking sides - just curious how the situation MIGHT be handled -

Correct. If you can't, or don't wear a mask, you won't be let in.

 

[SierraT]

My VAH tix for 6/12 disappeared around 4:30/5:00 ish on MDE, but I hit refresh again and they were back! I also received more recipes from Disney, but not from Disney Destinations this time, they're from My Disney?!!

Oh no!!! When we “first week of June goers” were cancelled, they sent the recipes e-mail the day before.

As a side note, my 6/1 reservation is still sitting there. They have not cancelled it and it’s been a week.

** Secretly hoping they open just the resort (even the 2nd week) so I can at least sit at the pool. I can’t do Springs with the restrictions they have, but a resort vacation would be fine.

 

[AMW86]

Well that’s interesting. Isn’t that in violation of the ADA? Even if it isn’t, and I’m pretty sure it is, I just have to assume they’re will be lawsuits from that move.

I work in ADA enforcement and we didn't come to any decisions, but we discussed whether the "direct threat" exception might allow such a policy

 

[peaceluv&mickeymouse]

Well that’s interesting. Isn’t that in violation of the ADA? Even if it isn’t, and I’m pretty sure it is, I just have to assume they’re will be lawsuits from that move.

That’s a touchy subject. We Haven’t had a global pandemic before, well ,at least in our times. I feel like everyone needs to be protected in the early phases, those that cannot wear a mask included.

 

[tinkerhon]

Disney's Covid-19 Warning says that "guests with underlying medical conditions are especially vulnerable" so I feel like they're just supporting this statement. If you have an underlying medical condition that makes you unable to wear a facemask, you're probably in the category of people that are especially vulnerable and should still play it safe by staying home at this point. Maybe in a couple weeks when we see how this plays out, that can be lifted. Just my opinion.

What about an underlying handicapped situation ? Not necessarily a physical handicap that would make you more prone to catching the virus ?

 

[JacknSally]

I don’t believe so. Someone linked an article citing the ADA saying something along the lines of there being exceptions during global emergencies and this qualifies as one. Basically reasonable accommodations should be made, but in this case not wearing the mask would endanger other people so it’s an exception. I’ll see if I can find exactly what it said because that’s a terrible summary.

This full thread on Twitter explains it pretty well! He specifically wrote it in regards to stores/shoppers, but the direct threat bit applies.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1262457213773328384

 

[Marissa227]

What about an underlying handicapped situation ? Not necessarily a physical handicap that would make you more prone to catching the virus ?

You're right. I didn't think about that at first. I was thinking strictly "medical" such as asthma.

 

[CastAStone]

Well that’s interesting. Isn’t that in violation of the ADA? Even if it isn’t, and I’m pretty sure it is, I just have to assume they’re will be lawsuits from that move.

The short answer is No. The medium answer is the ADA has exceptions for public health. The Long answer is here https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/ada-implications-i-don-t-want-to-wear-a-91357/

 

[cakebaker]

At least there’s no uncertainty. No mask, no enter. I’m surprised but looks like they’re covered legally.