Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[fla4fun]

What about an underlying handicapped situation ? Not necessarily a physical handicap that would make you more prone to catching the virus ?

It sounds like no exceptions at all. I feel for people who can’t wear a mask, but unfortunately they can be a carrier (with or without symptoms) just like anyone else. I don’t expect the masks to be mandatory forever, but I do expect them to stick around at least through the openings of the parks and resorts. If that all goes well, I expect them to be suggested, but not required soon afterward.

 

[RamblingMad]

At least there’s no uncertainty. No mask, no enter. I’m surprised but looks like they’re covered legally.

That’s what I expected.

 

[The Pho]

Disney has hoards of lawyers. I'm sure they wouldn't make a move that would open them up to potential ADA violation claims.

I’m sure their Lawyers thought it all over but I’d still expect a lawsuit regardless. And I know there’s a bit of interpretation in there as to what can be exempt.

The short answer is No. The medium answer is the ADA has exceptions for public health. The Long answer is here https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/ada-implications-i-don-t-want-to-wear-a-91357/

Thanks for the answer. Everywhere around here has been operating with masks mostly required which is why my mind went there

 

[Music City Mama]

Seaworld doesn't have 4 parks, 20+ hotels, multiple guest transportation modes (boats, buses, monorail, Minnie vans), and more than 100 restaurants.

This is true, but also true that Disney has the infrastructure and staff.

Exactly. Seaworld doesn't have as many moving parts as Disney, but they also don't have the Disney machine of infrastructure/operations.

 

[RamblingMad]

It sounds like no exceptions at all. I feel for people who can’t wear a mask, but unfortunately they can be a carrier (with or without symptoms) just like anyone else. I don’t expect the masks to be mandatory forever, but I do expect them to stick around at least through the openings of the parks and resorts. If that all goes well, I expect them to be suggested, but not required soon afterward.

I expect they’ll stick around until a vaccine. The argument to wear them makes sense. If you wear a mask, you might reduce the spread of a dangerous virus. If you don’t wear a mask, you’re more likely to spread it. The virus doesn’t care if you’re disabled.

 

[abnihon]

I still am just having trouble wrapping my head around what will happen if a child has a tantrum and refuses to wear a mask. Because I’m SURE it will happen.

 

[SarahC97]

It sounds like no exceptions at all. I feel for people who can’t wear a mask, but unfortunately they can be a carrier (with or without symptoms) just like anyone else. I don’t expect the masks to be mandatory forever, but I do expect them to stick around at least through the openings of the parks and resorts. If that all goes well, I expect them to be suggested, but not required soon afterward.

It will change at some point. I'm sure Disney will stay on top of it and adjust their policy accordingly to be in accordance with what is allowed under the ADA.

 

[tinkerhon]

It sounds like no exceptions at all. I feel for people who can’t wear a mask, but unfortunately they can be a carrier (with or without symptoms) just like anyone else. I don’t expect the masks to be mandatory forever, but I do expect them to stick around at least through the openings of the parks and resorts. If that all goes well, I expect them to be suggested, but not required soon afterward.

So, basically, ( and not disagreeing or arguing with you )
Just looking at this from Disney's perspective and/or the perspective of someone with a mental disability and/or someone that is handicapped - ( or the parents/guardians of these people)
I would think they should have every right to enter DS and/or the parks as anyone else, no? And I totally get the reasoning for the masks - I'm not anti-mask and my children have to wear them ( EVERYWHERE) here in NYC - my son is on the low end of the spectrum and has sensory issues, and he doesn't like the mask, but he does wear it, and is not the type to complain - but I feel for those with children that can't wear them because of the same (or similar) issues. It's a tricky situation.

 

[J-BOY]

So, basically, ( and not disagreeing or arguing with you )
Just looking at this from Disney's perspective and/or the perspective of someone with a mental disability and/or someone that is handicapped - ( or the parents/guardians of these people)
I would think they should have every right to enter DS and/or the parks as anyone else, no? And I totally get the reasoning for the masks - I'm not anti-mask and my children have to wear them ( EVERYWHERE) here in NYC - my son is on the low end of the spectrum and has sensory issues, and he doesn't like the mask, but he does wear it, and is not the type to complain - but I feel for those with children that can't wear them because of the same (or similar) issues. It's a tricky situation.

As has been discussed above, you don't have legal rights to enter private property if you're endangering the health of the public.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I still am just having trouble wrapping my head around what will happen if a child has a tantrum and refuses to wear a mask. Because I’m SURE it will happen.

If a child has a tantrum and refuses to be properly restrained on an attraction, Disney does not allow said child to ride. If a child (or parent, lol) has a tantrum when a child is too short to ride, Disney does not allow said child to ride.

I'm not saying Disney *will* be treating masks in a similar fashion, but as much as they let guests get away with they don't let it happen when safety is an issue. I'm not convinced they will be as strict when it comes to masks despite what we just heard about people who cannot wear them not be allowed to enter, but they don't just allow guests to bulldoze and break the rules in every situation.

 

[SarahC97]

So, basically, ( and not disagreeing or arguing with you )
Just looking at this from Disney's perspective and/or the perspective of someone with a mental disability and/or someone that is handicapped - ( or the parents/guardians of these people)
I would think they should have every right to enter DS and/or the parks as anyone else, no? And I totally get the reasoning for the masks - I'm not anti-mask and my children have to wear them ( EVERYWHERE) here in NYC - my son is on the low end of the spectrum and has sensory issues, and he doesn't like the mask, but he does wear it, and is not the type to complain - but I feel for those with children that can't wear them because of the same (or similar) issues. It's a tricky situation.

I think you might be asking the wrong question from and ADA standpoint. Do they have the right to enter just as everyone else? Not if the policy is that they must wear a mask and cannot. But do they have the right to services offered at DS with appropriate accommodation such as curbside pickup? Yes.

 

[tinkerhon]

I still am just having trouble wrapping my head around what will happen if a child has a tantrum and refuses to wear a mask. Because I’m SURE it will happen.

I just wonder ( and I know this might be a stretch, but it could definitely happen - imagine the press if Disney refused to allow someone from.... let's say... "Make-A-Wish" because they could not wear a mask - they did make it clear - no exceptions -

 

[The Pho]

If a child has a tantrum and refuses to be properly restrained on an attraction, Disney does not allow said child to ride. If a child (or parent, lol) has a tantrum when a child is too short to ride, Disney does not allow said child to ride.

My mind will always return to when I saw a mother blocking a ride from operating because her daughter didn’t get to ride in her favorite Tea Cup, and Disney giving them a bunch of fastpasses. And nothing to the other guests they kept from riding.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I just wonder ( and I know this might be a stretch, but it could definitely happen - imagine the press if Disney refused to allow someone from.... let's say... "Make-A-Wish" because they could not wear a mask - they did make it clear - no exceptions -

Are those trips, especially ones with medically fragile children, happening during a pandemic?

Of course there's the flip side to your headline, imagine the press if a Make A Wish child contracted COVID-19 on their trip to Disney.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I just wonder ( and I know this might be a stretch, but it could definitely happen - imagine the press if Disney refused to allow someone from.... let's say... "Make-A-Wish" because they could not wear a mask - they did make it clear - no exceptions -

I don’t think it’s a good idea for sick kids to be in a theme park during a pandemic. I don’t even want to bring my healthy child.

 

[Kadorto]

That’s a touchy subject. We Haven’t had a global pandemic before, well ,at least in our times. I feel like everyone needs to be protected in the early phases, those that cannot wear a mask included.

For some of us who are a little older, we've been through this before.. just without the hype and panic

 

[WonderlandisReality]

Welp. I am never gonna sleep tonight. The night before finding out if Disney might open is going to be like the night before actually going to Disney.

 

[JacknSally]

Shared this in the other rumors thread, but I'll share it here, too, for anyone who might not be bouncing back and forth between the two

From the ResortTV1 livestream, there's the temp check to get into Disney Springs that we already knew about, but Paradiso37 also has its own temperature check before they let you in to the restaurant. Haven't heard of any other individual restaurants/stores doing this yet.

Also, I have seen a few people in the background of the stream walking around Springs without masks (and without food or drink), which I'm sure everyone expected to see. I just wonder if the employees/CMs are expected to stop them when they see them walking around, or if they'll just be refused entry if they try to enter any shops/restaurants without them. I haven't seen any of the yellow shirt CMs in any of the streams I've watched today.

 

[tinkerhon]

I think you might be asking the wrong question from and ADA standpoint. Do they have the right to enter just as everyone else? Not if the policy is that they must wear a mask and cannot. But do they have the right to services offered at DS with appropriate accommodation such as curbside pickup? Yes.

Totally see your point - guess my heart is leading me towards a moral standpoint -
There will be situations where someone has recently tested negative for Covid-19, but can't enter the parks because they have an affliction that doesn't allow them to wear a mask

 

[fla4fun]

So, basically, ( and not disagreeing or arguing with you )
Just looking at this from Disney's perspective and/or the perspective of someone with a mental disability and/or someone that is handicapped - ( or the parents/guardians of these people)
I would think they should have every right to enter DS and/or the parks as anyone else, no? And I totally get the reasoning for the masks - I'm not anti-mask and my children have to wear them ( EVERYWHERE) here in NYC - my son is on the low end of the spectrum and has sensory issues, and he doesn't like the mask, but he does wear it, and is not the type to complain - but I feel for those with children that can't wear them because of the same (or similar) issues. It's a tricky situation.

It is tricky, and I am glad I am not involved with making or enforcing the decision. People on both sides have been getting so angry and upset over this one issue that I worry more about people getting in fights with each other over it than I do the virus itself. If Disney does enforce it strictly, people who don’t follow the boards like we do will be very upset and argumentative when they are turned away. If Disney doesn’t enforce it strictly, people who are wearing masks and think it should be enforced may try to take things into their own hands. I will be very happy when masks are only suggested (although I may still wear one for a while just because I have allergy issues and don’t want people around me concerned that it could be something more).