Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[SaintsManiac]

I know... but many others have insisted disney venues would follow within days and all of DS would be open by end of may.

Seems extremely unlikely now to me.

Homecomin and Splitsville are a no go. I would not expect World of Disney, either.

 

[WishesCameTrue]

Agreed. They’ll probably get some hard core fans willing to go, but the average family I don’t see going if it’s required. Or they’ll go, with no intention of following the rules.

Okay been away from the thread for a while so this may have been expressed...
I am in the no masks arena for being outside, especially at pools, but I MIGHT consider wearing for inside attractions. I know, I know it’s 100% my decision and preference of whether I go or not based on Disney’s restrictions and protocols.

BUT what will make me personally very mad is if they say masks are required everywhere all of time so I decide not to go. THEN I see dozens of pictures and video of folks not wearing masks while at Disney. Which will mean they are not willing to enforce their own “requirement” which means it wasn’t really a requirement. So folks who, like you mentioned, had no intention of following the rules got to enjoy Disney and suckers like me didn‘t.

 

[UOAP]

I’m sure Disney is worried about how the new way that covid19 is affecting children. If a major outbreak to children would happen at Disney, it would be castrophic .

Fortunately that seems a rare phenomenon, but I think if even one child had that complication who got it at Disney it could be devastating for Disney. All the more reason they can't be loosey goosey with safety.

 

[hertamaniac]

Going to a poster upstream, yes, cruise lines are being very liberal with their incentives (at least NCL). We cancelled our December 2020 trip and rescheduled for next spring. They then gave us free specialty dining, free wi-fi, free shore excursions and free, unlimited drinks (including alcohol). When I ran our numbers, they are virtually giving us a free 7 night cruise with all the trimmings.

But, I have severe apprehensions about being confined on a ship unless the cruise lines have consistently delivered a solid safety protocol come this fall.

 

[Pyotr]

I hope you have other reasons for cancelling? They may start requiring them and then modify it to recommend them, you never know...

I do. The rumored no fireworks, parades, and character meet and greets already put me on the fence. Do I want my daughters first Disney trip to be in a mask 6 feet away from Mickey? Absolutely not.

Hopefully by next summer we will be back to normal and masks will not be required. Until then, its just not worth it to me.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

BUT what will make me personally very mad is if they say masks are required everywhere all of time so I decide not to go. THEN I see dozens of pictures and video of folks not wearing masks while at Disney. Which will mean they are not willing to enforce their own “requirement” which means it wasn’t really a requirement. So folks who, like you mentioned, had no intention of following the rules got to enjoy Disney and suckers like me didn‘t.

Couldn’t agree more, I had the exact same same thought!

 

[Mit88]

I don't have to 'get over' anything, because I won't be visiting if masks are required.

You won’t miss out for long. Mask requirements for a place like Disney will be months, not years before it’s curtailed completely.

 

[SaintsManiac]

You won’t miss out for long. Mask requirements for a place like Disney will be months, not years before it’s curtailed completely.

I hope. Oh how I hope. Don't want to move my trip next year.

 

[burg]

Fortunately that seems a rare phenomenon, but I think if even one child had that complication who got it at Disney it could be devastating for Disney. All the more reason they can't be loosey goosey with safety.

I think it is indeed devastating that children could have complications related to the virus, as they might not be able to protect themselves. Equally devastating is the amount of senior citizens that can become very ill due to the virus as well. I truly feel for all the families that are fighting agains this.

But I really cannot get why a lot of people assume it would be devastating to Disney. I have said this before, but I think each one of us will have to take responsibility for visiting any place outside our homes. Be it the grocery store, the pharmacy, the doctor's office, the hospital. Again, no one is forcing people to visit. You just need to be comfortable with the risk profile. And we cannot think any company will be able to ensure their environment is 100% safe.

For instance, I practice a sport which requires me to sign waivers in case any harm is to come from the activity itself. I consider the risk low and happily sign the waivers away. Some people might have a different tolerance to that risk and think I am crazy.

The more obsession there is with pointing fingers at Disney for having them expose people to a potential virus contraction, the more restrictive potential measure will be. That is, the more people saying (and actually doing it) they will sue Disney for being exposed to the virus could potentially lead companies like Disney to have us sign waivers as well ahead of visiting their parks.

 

[The Pho]

News

My Olympus park will be open only to hotel guests this season.

https://www.mtolympuspark.com/specials/resort-guest-exclusive/

 

[UOAP]

I think it is indeed devastating that children could have complications related to the virus, as they might not be able to protect themselves. Equally devastating is the amount of senior citizens that can become very ill due to the virus as well. I truly feel for all the families that are fighting agains this.

But I really cannot get why a lot of people assume it would be devastating to Disney. I have said this before, but I think each one of us will have to take responsibility for visiting any place outside our homes. Be it the grocery store, the pharmacy, the doctor's office, the hospital. Again, no one is forcing people to visit. You just need to be comfortable with the risk profile. And we cannot think any company will be able to ensure their environment is 100% safe.

For instance, I practice a sport which requires me to sign waivers in case any harm is to come from the activity itself. I consider the risk low and happily sign the waivers away. Some people might have a different tolerance to that risk and think I am crazy.

The more obsession there is with pointing fingers at Disney for having them expose people to a potential virus contraction, the more restrictive potential measure will be. That is, the more people saying (and actually doing it) they will sue Disney for being exposed to the virus could potentially lead companies like Disney to have us sign waivers as well ahead of visiting their parks.

Because Disney is not essential. Society doesn't need Disney like society needs grocery stores. If Disney is linked to children dying, it will have more trouble staying open. And unlike with your sports, you are putting only yourself at risk when you play. You aren't putting someone's kid at the company you work for at risk. I know we are not supposed to talk about science, but the lack of understanding about how diseases are spread is leading to a lot of misunderstanding about why public health policies are in place. We know at this point that people without any symptoms are spreading COVID to others. We cannot leave sheltering in place forever for half the population just because the other half doesn't want to take appropriate safety measures for the benefit of others.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

I think it is indeed devastating that children could have complications related to the virus, as they might not be able to protect themselves. Equally devastating is the amount of senior citizens that can become very ill due to the virus as well. I truly feel for all the families that are fighting agains this.

But I really cannot get why a lot of people assume it would be devastating to Disney. I have said this before, but I think each one of us will have to take responsibility for visiting any place outside our homes. Be it the grocery store, the pharmacy, the doctor's office, the hospital. Again, no one is forcing people to visit. You just need to be comfortable with the risk profile. And we cannot think any company will be able to ensure their environment is 100% safe.

For instance, I practice a sport which requires me to sign waivers in case any harm is to come from the activity itself. I consider the risk low and happily sign the waivers away. Some people might have a different tolerance to that risk and think I am crazy.

The more obsession there is with pointing fingers at Disney for having them expose people to a potential virus contraction, the more restrictive potential measure will be. That is, the more people saying (and actually doing it) they will sue Disney for being exposed to the virus could potentially lead companies like Disney to have us sign waivers as well ahead of visiting their parks.

And yet, if Disney is open, there will be people that believe it is 100% safe to be there. They believe Disney wouldn’t open otherwise. Disney is surely considering what the court of public opinion will say if people become infected and point the finger back at them. They are being cautious about reopening not only due to safety concerns, but optics as well.

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

Welp, I’m out. I’m cancelling my two August Disney trips. I have just over 100 expiring DVC points and I’d rather eat them than go. Wearing a mask at Disney is a deal breaker.

I will likely cancel my October Food and Wine trip too.

I'd be surprised if Food and Wine is a go.

 

[AvidDisReader]

I can see it now, everyone wearing there masks as they go thru security and the tap stiles. Pass under the tunnels, get out of the site of cast member and down goes the mask to around the neck only. Which is where it will stay until a random cast member politely advises to pull up, which the guest will do. Until they move out of site of that cast member when down goes the mask. Repeat all day.

 

[whiporee]

1. Chapek indicated today that masks/face coverings are expected to be fully required by both guests and Cast Members.

He said likely, and he also said they'd follow state and local guidelines. If Orange and Osceola don't require masks by the time the parks open, WDW won't require masks. If they do, then they will. The issue with Disney isn't the masks themselves -- that they can just make a policy. It's all the exceptions people will undoubtably pursue. What's the age limit going to be? Young looking six-year-olds? Old looking fours? Are you going to enforce it for autistic people with sensory issues? What about asthma or heat stroke? There will be so many special circumstances that the rule will end up being voluntary anyway. Disney will want to comply with whatever regulations are in place, but they will want to get as far away from responsibility -- for making it a rule (or even a guideline) -- as they can.

 

[DisneyElite4]

I can see it now, everyone wearing there masks as they go thru security and the tap stiles. Pass under the tunnels, get out of the site of cast member and down goes the mask to around the neck only. Which is where it will stay until a random cast member politely advises to pull up, which the guest will do. Until they move out of site of that cast member when down goes the mask. Repeat all day.

So much this.

 

[J-BOY]

I can see it now, everyone wearing there masks as they go thru security and the tap stiles. Pass under the tunnels, get out of the site of cast member and down goes the mask to around the neck only. Which is where it will stay until a random cast member politely advises to pull up, which the guest will do. Until they move out of site of that cast member when down goes the mask. Repeat all day.

Security isn't only at the front of the park, you know. They have a ton of plainclothes officers that are more than capable of following people, and if someone is seen repeatedly removing their mask after being reminded of the rules, it wouldn't be hard to have the person removed.

 

[LSUmiss]

I'll only make one comment about masks:

They aren't about protecting YOU. They are about protecting YOU from others. Therefore it is a safety issue and not a personal preference. It's incredibly selfish to see people attempt to skirt the rules or act as if their comfort is more important than helping prevent the spread of disease to other people.

I get that this is all weird and uncomfortable and they make you feel awkward and self conscious. I've felt all those things when I've gone out to grocery shop recently.

We (as a society) need to get over it because it's the best thing we can do as we open back up until some type of medical treatment or miraculous change in the virus' ability to spread / sicken.

It’s also selfish for you to expect others to protect YOU. If they’re required it is what it is, if that’s the rule. But, if not, it’s not my job to protect you. I plan to stay 6ft away from you & if that’s too risky for you, perhaps YOU should stay home.

 

[rteetz]

News

My Olympus park will be open only to hotel guests this season.

https://www.mtolympuspark.com/specials/resort-guest-exclusive/

They do have indoor options too though. I living in WI haven't heard much about how this is impacting or what the plans are for the Wisconsin Dells. Everything outdoors is seasonal. Noahs Ark the largest water park especially.

 

[burg]

Because Disney is not essential. Society doesn't need Disney like society needs grocery stores. If Disney is linked to children dying, it will have more trouble staying open. And unlike with your sports, you are putting only yourself at risk when you play. You aren't putting someone's kid at the company you work for at risk. I know we are not supposed to talk about science, but the lack of understanding about how diseases are spread is leading to a lot of misunderstanding about why public health policies are in place. We know at this point that people without any symptoms are spreading COVID to others. We cannot leave sheltering in place forever for half the population just because the other half doesn't want to take appropriate safety measures for the benefit of others.

I don't disagree with you. You will see that nowhere have I suggested Disney should open its gates sooner (or later). And I have not mentioned Disney is an essential activity as well, so that interpretation is not accurate. They will open their gates when they think it is safe to do so, and by then I think each one of us will have to evaluate their own risk tolerance. And follow the rules that might be in place.

By the way, with very few exceptions, my sport is not done individually and potential mistakes could put the life of others at risk as well.