Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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I know about that I’m just saying let’s say the parks are closed for 80 days and your pass gets extended those 80 days and your pass expired on May 1. That would give you access til mid July but you from a hot zone that can’t realistically get down there to use it. Will they extend them further is what I’m asking.
NY cases are already going down since they were a “hot zone” first. (Maybe not deaths yet, but hospitalizations have been declining). Hopefully by like June it’s no longer a hot zone. I think the governor said on Sunday (ir was it Monday?) that he feels the worst is over.
 
Good news update, things are still trending down around the world, as expected, hoping it continues. All good news for Disney opening sooner this year than later. Study coming out of China that show that outdoor spread/infection is very rare, not peer reviewed, not a fact yet though, so who knows but that would be great news. If that comes to be evident Disney parks will be open by July, hoping so.

MMA and WWE doing events in early may. PGA golf tournament in June

In my opinion still thinking mid May Disney Springs, resorts June and then parks July.
 
I know about that I’m just saying let’s say the parks are closed for 80 days and your pass gets extended those 80 days and your pass expired on May 1. That would give you access til mid July but you from a hot zone that can’t realistically get down there to use it. Will they extend them further is what I’m asking.
I doubt they would extend you further. That would be a logistical nightmare trying to figure out where each Passholder is from and to determine if they are from a “hot spot” or not.
 

I've been doing similar to you; I was running exponential regressions since mid March to predict future numbers (of cases/deaths) and in the beginning the predictions were easy and I was incredibly close to the actual values when you extrapolate the data (first two weeks of shut down). After the shut downs, the % growth dropped significantly so the regressions don't work for predicting as the curves start to flatten unless you toss the previous week from the data but I find just a % increase day to day gives a good prediction at this point because it has lowered so much. The % increases in the states has lowered substantially across the board. I find it interesting to look at how different measures affect different places in both cases and deaths. Of course everyone that has it isn't tested, but the % growth from those that are tested are likely representative of the % growth of the entire population that has it.

Hopefully trends continue, this is over soon and we all get to have our Dole Whip :)
If you fit a 4th order polynomial, that seems to fit quite well.

I also did some number crunching to see how population densities affected figures - it was very crude, but it did suggest that more densely populated countries such as Belgium, NL, Italy and UK, are doing worse. I didn't expand this to individual US states - but it could explain why NYC has suffered so much. I'm not sure what population density is like in Florida, but it could explain why the numbers in Florida aren't that bad at the moment. However, localised crowd density - such as at WDW - would be a worry.
 
I’m curious what is going to happen with APs? They have said they’ll extend them for days that the park is closed but say you’re coming from NY or NJ and realistically can’t go or you will have to quarantine so what’s the point? I could see them extending all through the end of the calendar year at this point. It’s one thing for the parks to open it’s another for out of state aps to actually get there

You can also get a refund for the # of days the closure lasts.
 
If you fit a 4th order polynomial, that seems to fit quite well.

I also did some number crunching to see how population densities affected figures - it was very crude, but it did suggest that more densely populated countries such as Belgium, NL, Italy and UK, are doing worse. I didn't expand this to individual US states - but it could explain why NYC has suffered so much. I'm not sure what population density is like in Florida, but it could explain why the numbers in Florida aren't that bad at the moment. However, localized crowd density - such as at WDW - would be a worry.

I have seen multiple reports that said density is why NYC is so bad. CA and NY had first cases around same time but CA never took off like NYC. NYC is much like the bad European cultures where people live squished in and relay on public transportation (bus,subway), and a lot of European cities and NYC are overall filthy and yucky.

Florida is highly populated as a state but we are much more spread out and don't overly depend on public transportation.
 
Good news update, things are still trending down around the world, as expected, hoping it continues. All good news for Disney opening sooner this year than later. Study coming out of China that show that outdoor spread/infection is very rare, not peer reviewed, not a fact yet though, so who knows but that would be great news. If that comes to be evident Disney parks will be open by July, hoping so.

MMA and WWE doing events in early may. PGA golf tournament in June

In my opinion still thinking mid May Disney Springs, resorts June and then parks July.
Whilst I agree with your scientific reasoning, is there much point in opening the resorts if the parks aren't open? I can't imagine many people would want to go in that scenario. If there was any demand still, then maybe just open one or two of the deluxe resorts - some people might get a nice upgrade. I can't see them opening all the resorts if the parks aren't open.
 
Reminder to try and keep the posts about Disney. I know there are a lot of things around the country the could impact disney but at the same time we aren’t quite sure yet what those impacts will be. Thanks!
 
The more I hear the more I think August is going to be the earliest for any kind of park opening and even then it will be very low guest numbers.

For Springs, I think a few shops may open in june but most restaurants wont be ready until July. Somehow they have got to source food supplies first which could take weeks.
Thats the next window. The July window is still possible however its closing quickly and comments by the orange county mayor saying likely no large gatherings till july/August is going to have a huge impact on when the July window closes.
 
Some data is beginning to show that transmission maybe more likely in living quarters/homes over long exposure, and not in outdoor casual settings like parks, large events and beaches, even if crowded. If that continues to become more prevalent will benefit Disney greatly in being able to open the parks sooner than later.
Other data disputes that greatly. I can tell you thats not what the parks in Florida are being advised by health officials. They are being advised no large gatherings until July at the earliest most likely August and the window keeps moving out. Disney, uni, and sw are going to err on the side of extreme caution.
 
My point...Evidence suggests the governor of FL may be one of the earlier states to relax restrictions. That suggests FL may be one of the first states to relax rules allowing malls to open. I'll speculate Disney will open DS within a week of other malls in the Orlando area opening. I think the May 1 date is still a goal.

I can't see the resorts and theme park opening if guests from areas like NY and CA are restricted from entering FL.

FWIW--If without fans was the only issue TV shows and movies, without live audiences, would be shooting.

Edited to delete my response to keep @rteetz happy :)
 
Whilst I agree with your scientific reasoning, is there much point in opening the resorts if the parks aren't open? I can't imagine many people would want to go in that scenario. If there was any demand still, then maybe just open one or two of the deluxe resorts - some people might get a nice upgrade. I can't see them opening all the resorts if the parks aren't open.

And Ft Wilderness. There are a lot of campers who stay there even without visiting the parks.
 
I have seen multiple reports that said density is why NYC is so bad. CA and NY had first cases around same time but CA never took off like NYC. NYC is much like the bad European cultures where people live squished in and relay on public transportation (bus,subway), and a lot of European cities and NYC are overall filthy and yucky.

Florida is highly populated as a state but we are much more spread out and don't overly depend on public transportation.
Thank goodness Disney world isn’t a dense area.
 
Whilst I agree with your scientific reasoning, is there much point in opening the resorts if the parks aren't open? I can't imagine many people would want to go in that scenario. If there was any demand still, then maybe just open one or two of the deluxe resorts - some people might get a nice upgrade. I can't see them opening all the resorts if the parks aren't open.
I’d hope Disney would still honor late cancelations, but I’m sure there’s enough people who would want to stay on Disney property to visit the restaurants, bars, Disney springs, golf, etc to open at least some resorts at a reduced capacity.

Not saying it’s going to happen though.
 
Except for the confirmed super spreader events like the Pro soccer games in Italy and Spain that were a huge cause of those 2 outbreaks? I think we can say prolonged exposure indoors might be worse, but given what is already confirmed, it's hard to say outdoor exposure over a short time is not a significant risk. You just can't ignore those games. They were massive, massive causes of community spread and they happened in exactly the type of environment that would occur during fireworks or parades at a theme park.
There is evidence that in outdoors settings the risk is lower. But the trouble with large events like football games is that persons are in close confinement in other aspects associated with the event, not whilst actually watching the game - for example public transport to and from the event, or packed bars drinking before and after a game (if they are anything like Pompey fans!) etc.

So translating that to Disney, just wandering around the parks probably wouldn't be too bad - and somewhere like AK could still be a pleasurable experience. But it is things like transport to and from the parks - whether that be planes, buses, monorail, skyliner etc. - and enclosed buildings such as ride buildings, theaters and restaurants which will be the tricky areas.
 
Whilst I agree with your scientific reasoning, is there much point in opening the resorts if the parks aren't open? I can't imagine many people would want to go in that scenario. If there was any demand still, then maybe just open one or two of the deluxe resorts - some people might get a nice upgrade. I can't see them opening all the resorts if the parks aren't open.
Opening the DVC resorts would accommodate members with expiring points. I suspect it would lead to complaints and other issues. I think DVC and deluxe resorts associated with DVC properties might open weeks before parks. Otherwise I think resorts will open at about the same time phased opening of parks occurs.
Except for the confirmed super spreader events like the Pro soccer games in Italy and Spain that were a huge cause of those 2 outbreaks? I think we can say prolonged exposure indoors might be worse, but given what is already confirmed, it's hard to say outdoor exposure over a short time is not a significant risk. You just can't ignore those games. They were massive, massive causes of community spread and they happened in exactly the type of environment that would occur during fireworks or parades at a theme park.
I think it's a given Disney may have to open without parades and fireworks. Might have to do away with long standby lines at attractions like FoP. Space out restaurant tables.
 
If they were opening May 1st, they would be calling employees back to start preparing things and retrain. You honestly think an amusement park is going to open on May 1st? That would undo all the progress made by the quarantine.
I referred to DS (Disney Springs). Many (most) of the establishments at DS aren't run by Disney. Calling a store manager or clerk back to work isn't rocket science. Discarding spoiled food and ordering new food for a restaurant may take a little time.

I think the governor at FL is going to want to open shopping close to May 1. I think Disney will want to open DS around the same time malls in Orlando open. Some places may open later. Some may never open.

Opening stores and restaurants too early (May 1) might undo all the progress. States like NY are going to err on the side of health and open later. States like FL are going to favor economic concerns and err on the side of possibly opening too early.

I honestly think POTUS is going to suggest states start to open up toward the end of April, beginning of May. I honestly think the governor of FL wants to be among the first states.

To be clear my logic doesn't apply to the resorts and theme parks. I can see Disney opening DS for locals. I can't see Disney opening the parks if residents from some states and countries are being told to self quarantine upon entering Florida.
 
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