Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Carol_]

Saw this on Facebook!

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That’s totally me. I have reservations. I’ll wear the PAPR and undergo hosing down procedures. Let me back into the Bubble!

 

[yankeesfan123]

I don’t want to keep having this argument because everyone is going to believe what they want, but when they closed on March 16, they had to have time to come up with a plan. Yes, I know they were still selling rooms, etc for dates they were probably sure they could not keep, however, I think they were trying to come up with an announcement of what they could do before they took a stance on what happened after April 1–at this point we were working within less than a two week time frame. Then they stopped selling rooms, etc until after June 1. What the previous poster stated was that Disney KNOWS they will not open until July or probably August and that there is no possibility that it will be sooner. That implies that any rooms etc being sold for June (which is still a month and a half out—not two weeks) are being sold pretty far in advance with no plans to be fulfilled. I am sorry but I would like to think they wouldn’t do that if they didn’t think there was even a possibility that they could fulfill them in some fashion. I think there is a big difference between what happened with April and what is being implied is happening now. I’m not saying they wouldn’t do it, what I’m saying is that I’d like to THINK they wouldn’t. Take it as you will, but I’m entitled to my opinion as anyone else.

No offense and I hope to not rude, but no one had a plan on 3/16 or, if they did, it’s rubbish. Even the NBA hoped to only close for two weeks and actually finish the season! I’m an MLS season ticket holder and I got an email on 3/16 saying that only 1 game would need to be rescheduled lol.

Disney was hoping to be ready to reopen on 6/1, and maybe they still are hoping so. We don’t know. But what we do know is that they have a lot of people’s money for check-in starting 6/1, and many of them will just rebook again and again and again (rather than cancel) if they can’t open by then.

China just finally restarted their baseball league. 5-6 months after their outbreak started. And with zero fans. Zero. And I don’t see any announcement of HK of Shanghai starting up operations anytime soon.

I think Disney had hopes. Not a plan.

 

[Kadorto]

How will they open before June? They just agreed to furlough their service workers, Universal has announced they will be closed until June 1 st. What from this points to you thinking they will ramp everything up before June?

Oh.. that's easy.. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!!

 

[WeatherLights]

.....I think Disney had hopes. Not a plan.

Agree. The theory that Disney is operating with secret information that allows them to plan to a grater degree of certainty than any other business or government agency is just not accurate.

 

[Mzpalmtree]

No offense and I hope to not rude, but no one had a plan on 3/16 or, if they did, it’s rubbish. Even the NBA hoped to only close for two weeks and actually finish the season! I’m an MLS season ticket holder and I got an email on 3/16 saying that only 1 game would need to be rescheduled lol.

Disney was hoping to be ready to reopen on 6/1, and maybe they still are hoping so. We don’t know. But what we do know is that they have a lot of people’s money for check-in starting 6/1, and many of them will just rebook again and again and again (rather than cancel) if they can’t open by then.

China just finally restarted their baseball league. 5-6 months after their outbreak started. And with zero fans. Zero. And I don’t see any announcement of HK of Shanghai starting up operations anytime soon.

I think Disney had hopes. Not a plan.

I really need to stop responding and I will leave this thread and not do so ongoing, but what I actually said what that they needed time to come up with a plan after they closed on March 16. Not that they had a plan. That they needed time to develop one which is why they did not stop selling rooms in April at that point and waited to do so...I really can’t understand why everyone has such a problem with what I am saying. I do think Disney has hopes and plans for their future. I’m sure they have best case scenario hopes/plans and worst case which change all the time. My only issue was that the previous poster indicated that he/she somehow had inside information that without a shadow of a doubt Disney will not open before July or likely August. Clearly, many on this thread disagree with my belief/hope that Disney would not defraud people by selling them a product this far out that they had 0 intent to fulfill.

 

[Kadorto]

Not sure of the accuracy of these.. but I could see the parks being reopened in reverse order starting with phase 3 and then working up from there depending on how it goes.


Phase A Closure
No admission of guests with one day tickets, and no admission of guests even with FastPass+ reservations unless they have one of the following:

• Those with multi-day or multi-park tickets
• Those staying at a Disney Resort
• Annual Passholders
• Those re-entering the park that day.
• Those "hopping" from another park.
• Those with in-park reservations or appointments.

Phase B Closure
No admission of guests with one day tickets, and no re-entering or hopping from another park unless they have one of the following:

• Those with multi-day or multi-park tickets
• Those staying at a Disney Resort with FastPass+ reservations
• Annual Passholders
• Those re-entering the park that day.
• Those "hopping" from another park.
• Those with in-park reservations or appointments.

Phase 1 Closure
Casual visitors are turned away at the automobile toll plazas. This means that people without tickets, those with one-day, single-park tickets, and those intending to use cast member passes will not be allowed to park.
Other guests may enter such as:

• Those with multi-day or multi-park tickets
• Those staying at a Disney Resort
• Annual Passholders
• Those re-entering the park that day.
• Those "hopping" from another park.
• Those with in-park reservations or appointments.
• Those arriving via Disney transportation

Phase 1 is the most common closure level over the past 10 years and frequently happens during busy times like the Christmas and Easter periods.
Phase 2 Closure
The only guests allowed through the turnstiles and into the parking lots are:

• Those staying at a Disney Resort
• Annual Passholders
• Those re-entering the park that day.
• Those "hopping" from another park.
• Those with in-park reservations or appointments.
• Those arriving via Disney transportation

Phase 3 Closure
The only guests allowed through the turnstiles and into the parking lots are:

• Those staying at a Disney Resort
• Annual Passholders
• Those with in-park reservations or appointments.

Phase 4 Closure
The park and parking lot are closed to all arriving guests. It is very rare that any of the parks get to Phase 4 and has only happened a few times in the past 15 years.

 

[Jroceagles]

Truly curious. What signs, outside of an outright announcement, would we see for an opening? For example if they were to open on June 1 by what date would we see increased CM activity at the parks and/or resorts. And by extension if it would take X amount of time from an increase in activity to open can we use that as a reliable benchmark to be on the lookout for?

Furloughed employees can be called back at any time....

 

[Grumpy by Birth]

The economy is already destroyed. Layoffs. Business that will not reopen, etc etc. Damage is done already. Being closed another 2-3 months wont make it better or worse.

I'd agree that there has already been damage done to the economy. But the assertion that remaining closed another 2-3 months will not cause any further damage is highly unlikely. The longer this goes on, the worse it's going to get.

 

[jade1]

I'm planning to go when they reopen.

My guess is there will be an announcement of some kind.

 

[aibo]

My daughter...."Someday nothing will be like before"

 

[anthony2k7]

Furloughed employees can be called back at any time....

Of course, but some will need to travel I assume even USA CMs so I would guess they will be given at least a weeks notice before their due back at work

 

[xuxa777]

There most likely won’t be an issue with crowds, people will come. remember with the virus actively spreading and concern already high about it already. MK was packed the last night. All major league sports had already shut down the previous week.

 

[elleherself]

I think it will be several months longer before we see the Florida parks back open. I think they will be among the LAST things to open, after things like schools and office buildings are back to normal, after sports teams are back to playing with fans in the stadiums. I think the only thing that won't be open before theme parks is cruise ships. I am planning to look to Shanghai and Tokyo for an idea of timeline-- once those reopen we will have a very good idea of what we can expect as far as our US timeline goes.

I think even if huge strides are made in identifying, treating, and preventing the virus, the order of things opening back up would still put things like theme parks among the last things to fully come back up, we will see many other things come back before them. It won't be a day like "Society's open!" We'll see hospitals performing non emergency, and then elective procedures. We'll see restaurants back. We'll see movie theaters back. And we'll have an idea of what our post-coronavirus world will look like before the gates reopen.

I never imagined they'd be closed this long when they did, so my guess is probably a poor one, but for now I'm going with September for theme parks.

 

[Lumpy1106]

On our last trip back from WDW. we faced a REALLY long security line at the airport. We were just getting ready for the long wait when a dog handler walked by us, telling us to keep our phones put away and keep our shoes on. They then walked a dog by us and - BINGO,we were through, in minutes. So I got to thinking, could they do the same thing with COVID? Turns out I'm not the only one with this thought;

https://www.citylab.com/life/2020/0...-dogs-smell-detect-covid-19-infection/609403/

Imagine if simply walking a dog by the security screening line would be all it would take to identify anyone with COVID? That would get the parks, airports, you name it, back up and running in no time. Not only that, but the article states that the dogs could be trained in 4-6 weeks, not months.

 

[Pucks104]

On our last trip back from WDW. we faced a REALLY long security line at the airport. We were just getting ready for the long wait when a dog handler walked by us, telling us to keep our phones put away and keep our shoes on. They then walked a dog by us and - BINGO,we were through, in minutes. So I got to thinking, could they do the same thing with COVID? Turns out I'm not the only one with this thought;

https://www.citylab.com/life/2020/0...-dogs-smell-detect-covid-19-infection/609403/

Imagine if simply walking a dog by the security screening line would be all it would take to identify anyone with COVID? That would get the parks, airports, you name it, back up and running in no time. Not only that, but the article states that the dogs could be trained in 4-6 weeks, not months.

Could happen. Dogs have amazing scenting abilities. I have done some tracking with dogs and their ability to hone in on specific scents something.

 

[Betty Rohrer]

For parks I'd say 3-6 weeks minimum to hire people back, get food and supplies delivered. Restart and check ride mechanisms. Give everything a polish and work out the procedure adjustments they will have to make for virus mitigation and cast worker and employee safety.

For resorts and restaurants 1-3 weeks. Mostly hiring people back and getting supplies back in.

I don't know for sure but would rides need to be inspected again before opening and if so how long would that take

 

[anthony2k7]

There most likely won’t be an issue with crowds, people will come. remember with the virus actively spreading and concern already high about it already. MK was packed the last night. All major league sports had already shut down the previous week.

Again, wait and see, but I'm fairly sure you're wrong.

 

[Spridell]

Again, wait and see, but I'm fairly sure you're wrong.

If Disney were to open tomorrow there would be thousands of VLOGGERS alone that would show up. Add another couple of thousand locals. I mean would be nowhere near full but it would be more than you think I would bet. Another thread or someone on twitter put out a poll and something like 60% said they would go back right away when it opened.

 

[GeneralTso]

I think these closures are going to extend for a lot longer than people think, or imagine.
Without a vaccine, it is unsafe to open a public gathering space, especially the scale of a theme park or sports arena.

Call me crazy, but I think it will be sometime in 2021 when Disney reopens anything. It's just too risky.

 

[gottalovepluto]

I think these closures are going to extend for a lot longer than people think, or imagine.
Without a vaccine, it is unsafe to open a public gathering space, especially the scale of a theme park or sports arena.

Call me crazy, but I think it will be sometime in 2021 when Disney reopens anything. It's just too risky.

TX would like a word