Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Krandor]

I respect your stance.

Myself, I will feel comfortable in crowds, at Disney, at restaurants and bars. I will certainly be more aware of touching face, washing hands, etc., but I certainly will be happy to go ahead with life as close to normal as possible with or without vaccine. It's just my guess more than half of others will too.

I'm not advocating for it all to happen now, but certainly not waiting for a vaccine. Or even more outlandish, a zero death-rate.

Nobody is advocating we cannot open until there is a vaccine. But between when things open and when there is a vaccine I don't think it can be business as usual.

We are going to have to accept some risk until a vaccine is available even after things open up. No way around that. Am i going to be comfortable going to six flags or to a football game on day 1? If they are operating in a business as usual stance I'm just not so sure. A resturant, bar, or my office with a few people probably but still have to be a lot safer then I have been in the past.

I just don't think business as usual is going to be an option. What things look like we'l have to see.

 

[dieumeye]

Hey everyone, I have a thought.

What if, once WDW starts to reopen, and especially if they reopen in phases and/or with lots of restrictions... they KEEP EPCOT CLOSED for an extra few months and fast track all the future world construction to just get it done?

I mean, it’s already closed. What’s a few more months if they can get all the work done much quicker with a closed park? Just a thought.

 

[xuxa777]

Hey everyone, I have a thought.

What if, once WDW starts to reopen, and especially if they reopen in phases and/or with lots of restrictions... they KEEP EPCOT CLOSED for an extra few months and fast track all the future world construction to just get it done?

I mean, it’s already closed. What’s a few more months if they can get all the work done much quicker with a closed park? Just a thought.

They need money and will make more with it open

 

[CvilleDiane]

When they canceled Moonlight Magic for May this week, I was happy they didn't include the June date. It would be easy enough to just cancel both Epcot MM events in one email, but they didn't... so maybe it'll still happen?

 

[yankeesfan123]

Hey everyone, I have a thought.

What if, once WDW starts to reopen, and especially if they reopen in phases and/or with lots of restrictions... they KEEP EPCOT CLOSED for an extra few months and fast track all the future world construction to just get it done?

I mean, it’s already closed. What’s a few more months if they can get all the work done much quicker with a closed park? Just a thought.

I mentioned this in another thread: they could open just world showcase. They’d have two headliner attractions (Rat almost ready) and rake in lots of money with all the restaurants and alcohol sales. Obviously capacity would be very limited.

I also think you’ll see construction start back up at least a month or two before parks open. At least.

 

[mshanson3121]

Hey everyone, I have a thought.

What if, once WDW starts to reopen, and especially if they reopen in phases and/or with lots of restrictions... they KEEP EPCOT CLOSED for an extra few months and fast track all the future world construction to just get it done?

I mean, it’s already closed. What’s a few more months if they can get all the work done much quicker with a closed park? Just a thought.

The Wells Fargo analyst article actually suggested not all parks open up at once, and that Epcot may be last.

I mentioned this in another thread: they could open just world showcase. They’d have two headliner attractions (Rat almost ready) and rake in lots of money with all the restaurants and alcohol sales.

Honestly? I doubt it. I don't think Disney is going to be "raking in the money" right away. Again, outside of some select, financially secure hardcore fans, some who rescheduled their trips and can't change things again, and perhaps some locals with APs, people just aren't going to be flocking to Disney. And even if they manage to get there, it's unlikely they'll be spending the way they used to.

 

[halfpintpeggy]

I know how they could spread out crowds in the future.
A 5th gate.
(ps don’t yell at me lol)

 

[anthony2k7]

Sure there is. To confirm the virus and contact anyone you have been in contact with for the two weeks prior to showing symptoms.

Contact tracing is an absolutely great plan when there are limited numbers involved and can be assisted by team of experts to help trace people you have been near out and about.

But that only works when the numbers are manageable.

 

[anthony2k7]

They need money and will make more with it open

Will they though?

Epcot requires a huge number of CMs to run it. So they equally need a huge number of guests to make that financially viable. Its quite an assumption right now to think that there will be guests in a significant enough number for it to be viable to open epcot.

 

[Lewisc]

I'm excluding a "soft" openings at parks before resorts. I'm also excluding the first few days, maybe even a week, after opening. I don't see Disney getting rid of park hopping. Disney has had to lose a lot of revenue. I don't see having to refund existing ticket revenue as being in the cards. Guests might be told re-entry to any park might not be available if you leave.

Transportation. I don't see Disney opening if buses can't run with every seat filled. I can see a no standing policy. There isn't any way Disney can open if a 6 foot rule or a limit of 10 people in an ares is in effect.

Resort only. Maybe extended EMH. Remember a number of non-Disney hotel guests are allowed EMH and 60 day FP. I suspect those hotels would probably be included, There might be contractual issues. Disney runs the hotel gift shops in some (all?) of those hotels.

MK and DHS would have to open first, assuming a phased opening. I read after 9-11, read on the internet so it must be true, Disney was considering only opening the AK a few days a week. The cost savings wouldn't have been dramatic. The expense to take care of the animals isn't cheap. That was before Pandora. I'm sure there would be savings but AK can absorb a lot of guests.

 

[anthony2k7]

I'm not suggesting that masks won't help, it's just in the grand scheme of things at the parks, I don't think they will help that much. All the things that guests touch like hand rails and lap bars and on and on. To me masks just seem like more futility.

Masks not only stop what's in the air though, they help stop you touching your own face after you have touched all those other surfaces you mentioned.

 

[lilypgirl]

Burning Man (August 30th - September 7) has been cancelled. https://www.rgj.com/story/life/arts...an-2020-canceled-tickets-refunded/5132668002/

It draws around 80,000 people. Less than Disney World on an average day.

Honestly I would worry far more about catching a ton of other things at Burning Man and not covid-19.

 

[mshanson3121]

I know how they could spread out crowds in the future.
A 5th gate.
(ps don’t yell at me lol)

A Villains themed 5th gate. My son would beg us to sell the house if necessary to visit such a park.

 

[jerry557]

Nobody is advocating we cannot open until there is a vaccine.

Yeah a lot of people sort of are without really saying it out loud. Some people are saying schools can't reopen until there is a vaccine.

 

[OnceUponATime15]

The accuracy of the state posted numbers called into question.. accuracy paramount in making decisions regarding any lessening of restrictions..

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241882491.html

 

[xuxa777]

The accuracy of the state posted numbers called into question.. accuracy paramount in making decisions regarding any lessening of restrictions..

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241882491.html

The lack of including the backlog they are talking about with testing would only help things to open sooner. I wouldn’t doubt there is a significant delay in reporting testing. More people would be shown as being positive or negative and the hospital are still not being overrun. This would make the models off even more and show the peak is sooner or has already passed. They could lift stay at homes earlier. I think that is the case and will be more evident as time passes.

 

[jlwhitney]

CA extended stay at home till May 15.

 

[vinotinto]

Hey everyone, I have a thought.

What if, once WDW starts to reopen, and especially if they reopen in phases and/or with lots of restrictions... they KEEP EPCOT CLOSED for an extra few months and fast track all the future world construction to just get it done?

I mean, it’s already closed. What’s a few more months if they can get all the work done much quicker with a closed park? Just a thought.

They *could* be fast tracking all the construction *now.* Construction is an essential business in FL and WDW is allowed to continue construction during the closures. But, they have opted to not do construction while the parks are closed. It's a money issue.

It has been reported that at some point, they will continue working on those projects that were far along, and potentially scrape/postpone at least some of the projects that have not yet been started.

Ratatouille was very far along. I would love to see that open when the parks reopen, but yes, there are a lot of rumors that the reopening park phases will start with MK reopening, and Epcot being the last to reopen.

Here is a good article on what projects will likely remain:
https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs...-likely-to-be-canceled-because-of-coronavirus

 

[OnceUponATime15]

The lack of including the backlog they are talking about with testing would only help things to open sooner. I wouldn’t doubt there is a significant delay in reporting testing. More people would be shown as being positive or negative and the hospital are still not being overrun. This would make the models off even more and show the peak is sooner or has already passed. They could lift stay at homes earlier. I think that is the case and will be more evident as time passes.

Important to remember that every case is not a worst case scenario and most resolve at home, in isolation and with medical supervision. Those people can still spread the virus if those they live with do not practice isolation as well & if leaving the home for essential needs - practice social distancing diligently.

Hospitals would not become overrun by asymptomatic, or symptomatic people who have mild symptoms.. there’d be no need for them to attend a hospital for care or treatment. Asymptomatic & mildly symptomatic results will definitely impact the overall numbers as they transmit unknowingly. the hospital/public health system would remain minimally impacted in those cases.

But none of this negates the need for full and complete numbers and real transparency before making decisions that will impact masses of people.

 

[xuxa777]

CA extended stay at home till May 15.

I saw LA County did , but haven’t seen California news yet