Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[mshanson3121]

True. TBH I have skimmed many of the more dramatic posts.

Yeah, I was just going to edit my comment, to make sure I was clear that I didn't think you were one of them! lol.

 

[TDSAXX]

No. They are donating the PROFITS. Completely different. Proceeds are the money paid on the sale, profits are the difference between what it cost and what it sold for. It's still a good thing to do, but profits are way less than proceeds. It's also capped at $1MM. But again, it's still a good thing to do.

It also doesn’t hurt that they’re probably getting millions of dollars of positive PR out of it.

 

[Candlelady]

Yes, I know. Though some still wear the thicker, darker ones year round. My point was though - they wear their coverings year round, in the heat of summer. And even with a light-weight chador or hijab etc... they have far more body surface covered up (retaining heat) than someone in Florida wearing shorts and a tshirt. People are being way too overly dramatic about the whole "heat" issue.

Who are you to judge what others are able to tolerate? I won't go if I have to wear a mask, and I will go if masks are not mandatory. That's my choice and it is not being dramatic. You need to respect others reasons and not make light of their "heat" issues.

 

[JayhawkCruiser]

Speaking of cutting. I was thinking of that & all the line coming & going that goes on so much. Most queues aren’t wide enough for ppl to push past & remain socially distanced.

This is so important. We need some signs saying you won’t be able to rejoin your party if you leave or no “catching up to your party” if they went and got in line ahead of you. Normally I don’t mind one or two people doing it, it’s the big groups of people who squeeze past trying to catch up to the one person holding their spot, but with COVID we can’t be having any kind of this behavior.

 

[JaNelson38]

It really fascinates me the amount of people that say “wearing a mask makes me feel uncomfortable, so I will not do it”. There are so many things we do in our lives that make us feel uncomfortable, but we still do them. It’s like no one is willing to change and adapt to a new way of life.

You shouldn't feel "uncomfortable" when you're going somewhere on vacation. That's a point I was trying to make earlier. I would be willing to bet that mandatory mask wearing for guests at WDW will be a deal breaker for a lot of folks. It just will. Kids are hard enough to control normally....having to worry about them keep a mask on for hours every day? Yeesh. From Disney's point of view, that's why I think that masks may be encouraged, but not required.

Coming to WDW isnt the essential trip to the grocery store. It shouldnt be treated as such. It has to be thought of differently than just regular activities, as weird as it sounds.

 

[Pickle Rick]

You shouldn't feel "uncomfortable" when you're going somewhere on vacation. That's a point I was trying to make earlier. I would be willing to bet that mandatory mask wearing for guests at WDW will be a deal breaker for a lot of folks. It just will. Kids are hard enough to control normally....having to worry about them keep a mask on for hours every day? Yeesh. From Disney's point of view, that's why I think that masks may be encouraged, but not required.

Coming to WDW isnt the essential trip to the grocery store. It shouldnt be treated as such. It has to be thought of differently than just regular activities, as weird as it sounds.

You don’t like what they are enforcing? Don’t go. That’s all there is to it.

 

[rpb718]

I think the reason is that coming to Disney "shouldn't" feel uncomfortable.
We all do uncomfortable things because we have to, coming to Disney is not a "have to" experience

If saving lives is uncomfortable, I'd rather be uncomfortable.

 

[jerry557]

Isn't it pretty normal for people to wear masks in China? Seriously asking.

I am just waiting for Mr. "I paid 10k for this trip I won't wear a mask if I don't want to." CM says, "sir you agreed to wear a mask when you paid the 10k." Mr. 10k asks for the manager. They give him extra FPs and he never has to wear one.

Different cultural psychology...
Masks became more culturally accepted in China back during the SARS epidemic with that theory that they could help prevent spread. And it just sort of caught on and became more socially acceptable during period of illness. It never really caught on in the west though, even during H1N1. Even today, parts of Europe are fully against wearing masks. In Sweden, very few people are wearing them.

Will COVID force a change in this? Only time will tell. But I doubt it for the long term. The western world is very difficult to change on a mass scale. People here value independence, freedom, civil liberties, etc.. more than their own lives. China on the other hand is more communal and doesn't put those things before public health. And we seem to be starting to have a debate about that in this country right now trying to weigh public health vs civil liberties. That's a political debate that won't be decided anytime soon and goes beyond this forum. How long will Americans tolerate it? By my guess...not long. It's just how the cultures are.

 

[Mit88]

I'll wear one when I have to like at the store, doctor's office, or visiting the nursing home (if they ever allow us back). Short periods of time are fine.

Disney is not a necessary destination for me, so I don't want to wear one there. It would not be enjoyable to me.

It fascinates me that people don't understand that.

Everyone has their limits. I understand anyone not wanting to go to a place as expensive as Disney, presumably on their vacation, and for many, their “once in the lifetime” vacation, and have to wear a mask. If I have to wear one to go to Disney, I will. But thats only because I have the luxury of being able to go there 2-3 times a year, so for me, it wouldnt really impact my love for the Disney Parks, especially if its just impacting 1 or 2 of my trips there and the experiences at the parks are still plentiful. But I definitely dont judge anyone for saying they wont go if masks are mandatory. Its expensive, you should experience what you love in the comfort you prefer

 

[wdw_dine_junkie]

Can’t imagine it doesnt expire before the parks reopen, unless theyre only opening to local’s, which is certainly possible. But figuring most local’s have AP’s, it would be almost pointless to reopen since they wouldnt get ticket or resort revenue. Many locals also just go home to eat rather than eat in the parks, and theres less souvenir purchases from locals. So their profit margins would be almost non existent if they open it up to Fl residents only.

They would be able to turn back on the annual pass holder monthly payment plans. Although I admit to being an AP holder who doesn't spend a lot of money in the parks, but we do pay for a campsite on site.

 

[Tigger's ally]

Fair point, but how do you expect to stay away on a bus or monorail?

It's called "limit capacity".

 

[tinkerbelletreasure]

That's what I took from it too. Its not that they saying locals only. They probably figure out of state traveling is not happening anytime soon.

Something I want I don't understand is more people are focused on when Disney is opening rather then what Disney is going to look like.

Until Disney announces an opening, it doesn’t matter what Disney is going to look like. I’m booked June 1-6. Right now, my main focus is, are those dates even possible. Whenever, they announce that they are opening, they will also have to provide the picture of what it’s going to look like. I have to get past, is the date even possible before I can evaluate, is it going to worth the experience offered. And nothing drives me more crazy right now than the insane amount of speculation and rumors about what the experience offered is going to be. Disney has not said ANYTHING about it yet. But to read threads, you’d be sure masks are required, half the rides are closed, no dining, ect.

 

[e_yerger]

There are plenty of things that are not comfortable about being in Disney, if we want to nitpick. People said the same about security screenings way back when. It's inconvenient and uncomfortable, but we adapt. Always have and always will.

Exactly.

Things that make us uncomfortable at Disney:
- the summer heat (wear light clothing)
- the afternoon rain showers (pack extra sneaker or wear special ones that dry fast)
- insane crowds (pack our patience)
- long standby wait times (bring games to play in line, heck Disney even made an app for it)
- security check points (getting to parks early to plan for time to get through security)
- increased pricing (adjust lifestyle to accommodate)

... i’m sure there is more but you get the point lol

 

[LSUmiss]

I saw this last night, and your analogy kind of is in line with it. You're welcome for the mental image

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But it’s pretty hard to pee on someone from 6 ft away. So there’s that.

 

[NJlauren]

It's called "limit capacity".

I’m not sure with buses and monorails it will be that easy. That’s like 2 families of 4 per bus, maybe 3

 

[JaNelson38]

You don’t like what they are enforcing? Don’t go. That’s all there is to it.

And I don't have a problem with that. If WDW mandates masks, I won't go until they time they drop the mask mandate. There are plenty of vacation spots that wont mandate mask-wearing that will be just as fun with regards to family destinations.

Im not saying mandating masks is right or wrong, I'm just providing an opinion on why I don't think they will. I personally think it will be a deal breaker for lots of people, especially families with young kids.

 

[RolloTomasi]

I don’t mean to interrupt the serious discussion, I’m giggling imagining all the face mask tan lines.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Exactly.

Things that make us uncomfortable at Disney:
- the summer heat (wear light clothing)
- the afternoon rain showers (pack extra sneaker or wear special ones that dry fast)
- insane crowds (pack our patience)
- long standby wait times (bring games to play in line, heck Disney even made an app for it)
- security check points (getting to parks early to plan for time to get through security)
- increased pricing (adjust lifestyle to accommodate)

... i’m sure there is more but you get the point lol

And everyone has a tipping point.

 

[Mit88]

They would be able to turn back on the annual pass holder monthly payment plans. Although I admit to being an AP holder who doesn't spend a lot of money in the parks, but we do pay for a campsite on site.

True, but at Disney World, how many people in each park are full paying customers vs annual passholders on payment plans? Disneyland I’m sure skews towards being 50/50, if not more towards AP holders, but WDW I’m sure theres a lot more money coming in from out of state park goers than daily AP holders. Theres no way the payment plans could hold them over very long without having additional daily park tickets.

Outside of DVC members, there probably arent many that stay on property outside of a weekend getaway here or there. Probably not enough to even fit in one resort on a weekend. Campground is one thing, but they cant expect locals to pay 500+ dollars a night at the Poly.

 

[Pickle Rick]

And I don't have a problem with that. If WDW mandates masks, I won't go until they time they drop the mask mandate. There are plenty of vacation spots that wont mandate mask-wearing that will be just as fun with regards to family destinations.

Im not saying mandating masks is right or wrong, I'm just providing an opinion on why I don't think they will. I personally think it will be a deal breaker for lots of people, especially families with young kids.

the sooner they open, the more restrictions that will be put in place. That’s reality, they can’t please everyone.