Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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It's not completely out of the blue, but I don't know how much it factors in. We know they're using CHH as a CM break area now, which is why that's not open.
CHH space is part of the Peter Pan queue now! Unless perhaps there's back rooms being break rooms.
 
Unless you are going to ask them for proof saying people who have gotten the vaccine don't have to abide by restrictions will only make those that are vaccine hesitant just start saying "I've been vaccinated. I don't have to follow your rules" - the same group that tried to create those "mask exemption cards".

I'm in georgia and not yet in a group that can get the vaccine and I don't really want vaccinated people even if I know they are to not have to follow all the rules. Case in point, as someboody not vaccinated I don't want somebody even if I know they are vaccinated standing right behind me in line with no mask at the grocery store. That would still not be comffortable to me.

At some point even if vaccinated you have to have some respect for people that haven't been at least until we get to the point where anybody can walk in and get a shot with no waiting and we are not there yet and at least a few months out.
Oh yeah. Like I said widely available. Then it's on you. Get your resistance one or the other.
 
Have you spoken to any cast members about it? Because I have.

You must have missed where I said “I suppose it probably depends on the location, though.”

Even if it is a reason for some locations, there’s no way it’s the ONLY reason for all. I think it’s a mix of many reasons, doesn’t have to be just one.
 
Now for the non-CA residents to sit and wait for the governor to 'allow' us to visit too!

I'm hoping summer? I'm sure when that restriction is lifted we'd also see the park capacity increase, the remaining two hotels open, and a date for Avengers Campus.

Positive steps in the right direction though!
Is CA still restricted as far as allowing ppl from other states in?
 

You must have missed where I said “I suppose it probably depends on the location, though.”

Even if it is a reason for some locations, there’s no way it’s the ONLY reason for all. I think it’s a mix of many reasons, doesn’t have to be just one.
No I didn’t. I also didn’t miss where you said, “I don’t think this has anything to do with break rooms”. And now you’re implying that I argued it was the only reason they weren’t opening more things, which of course I never did.
 
But dlr is set to open to just CA residents at first, right?
The State is requiring theme parks to only allow CA residents for an unknown period of time. There is speculation that requirement will drop once the travel advisory is dropped but as of right now theme parks are CA residents only even in the least restrictive tier of closure.
 
The State is requiring theme parks to only allow CA residents for an unknown period of time. There is speculation that requirement will drop once the travel advisory is dropped but as of right now theme parks are CA residents only even in the least restrictive tier of closure.
When is the travel advisory expected to be dropped? Does anyone know that yet?
 
No one knows when the advisory is expected to be dropped. For all we know the CA resident restriction on theme parks and/or travel advisory could last until Newsom decides there is no longer a need for COVID restrictions in CA.

Or until there's a potential change in leadership depending on what happens this Fall from what I'm reading too... But we can't dive into the nuts and bolts of that topic here.

I keep debating just reserving a hotel for August on pure hope.. just in case. I don't think anyone knows when we'll see that restriction lifted. I've seen speculation ranging from the optimistic to pessimistic all across the board. As far as I'm aware, there was never a specific 'goal post' given for when that would be removed. But the state still hasn't updated the website with the entirety of their revised theme park guidelines just yet, I'm sure when that happens we'll get more info? Maybe? Hopefully?
 
I don’t think the break room issue is really preventing them from adding more CMs back and opening more things up. What source is that information even coming from? Why are you telling Disney to get creative on break rooms when we don’t even know if it’s an issue? Granted, this was 15+ years ago but there was a very large cafeteria style break area at the resort I worked at during my college program and we were not packed in like sardines at all. In fact, people could spread out and keep to themselves. I suppose it probably depends on the location, though.

As long as we’re speculating, I don’t think this has anything to do with break rooms. I personally don’t think certain things will come back until the college program (aka the super cheap labor) comes back - which could be sooner than I previously thought based on comments Chapek has made recently. CP group housing is the biggest safety issue, but also one area where I could see them require vaccination. Once there’s easy access to the vax for the CP, I think they’ll try to get things moving on that.

The break rooms are an issue. I'm a laid off CM and our break room could hold about 20-25 pre-covid and now only 7 allowed at all times.
 
Unless you are going to ask them for proof saying people who have gotten the vaccine don't have to abide by restrictions will only make those that are vaccine hesitant just start saying "I've been vaccinated. I don't have to follow your rules" - the same group that tried to create those "mask exemption cards".

I'm in georgia and not yet in a group that can get the vaccine and I don't really want vaccinated people even if I know they are to not have to follow all the rules. Case in point, as someboody not vaccinated I don't want somebody even if I know they are vaccinated standing right behind me in line with no mask at the grocery store. That would still not be comffortable to me.

At some point even if vaccinated you have to have some respect for people that haven't been at least until we get to the point where anybody can walk in and get a shot with no waiting and we are not there yet and at least a few months out.
I notice that you completely glossed-over my comment about waiting for the science to confirm that the vaccines reduce transmission before allowing decreased Covid restrictions, in order to decrease vaccine hesitancy. That was the entire point of my comment.
 
No I didn’t. I also didn’t miss where you said, “I don’t think this has anything to do with break rooms”. And now you’re implying that I argued it was the only reason they weren’t opening more things, which of course I never did.

Did not imply that you said that. 2nd paragraph in my post was not directed at you specifically, it was addressing the overall conversation. Others in the thread pointed to that as a main reason.

Only my first sentence was directed to you.
 
I notice that you completely glossed-over my comment about waiting for the science to confirm that the vaccines reduce transmission before allowing decreased Covid restrictions, in order to decrease vaccine hesitancy. That was the entire point of my comment.

The problem is even if transmission is zero after getting the vaccine trying to have two different sets of rules for vaccinated people and non vaccinated people is impossibble to enforce. It just isn't logically feasible.

And for myself I don't care even if transmission is zero I don't want somebody I don't know at the grocery store right behind me in line at WDW without a mask because they claim "they are vaccinated" if I haven't been yet and want to be.

Two sets of rules just isn't workable.
 
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