Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Oldnewfan]

And just to share because I don't mind. I've never been an avid flu vaccine recipient. Only a few times as an adult. However.... this one is different. Almost shut down the world and I got over my fears to do my part to move my life and hopefully others around me forward. Its a personal decision but so far so good. Sore shoulder but thats it. Second shot April 15 and I'm blocking the 16th out if I feel crappy and will for a day. And great point. It ain't good for 6 weeks after you start the process.

 

[J-Dog]

And just to share because I don't mind. I've never been an avid flu vaccine recipient. Only a few times as an adult. However.... this one is different. Almost shut down the world and I got over my fears to do my part to move my life and hopefully others around me forward. Its a personal decision but so far so good. Sore shoulder but thats it. Second shot April 15 and I'm blocking the 16th out if I feel crappy and will for a day. And great point. It ain't good for 6 weeks after you start the process.

I felt like I had a severe flu for 2 days after my second Moderna shot. Couldn't move and didn't want to eat. But, if I can help this thing go away, I will get a third, new-variant shot right away if I have to.

 

[coolbrook]

If you think about it, CSR is a convention resort. There aren’t any conventions so the people filling it are vacationers that want pool access.

There actually are conventions happening these days at CSR according to the Buzz facebook group. Looks like just one this month, in addition to the basketball. This is the one happening during our May trip:

May 25 - 28, 2021 Actuarial Colloquia

I'm not thinking the actuaries will be too rowdy in the pool area...

 

[New Mouse]

My point was that it likely isn't a widespread issue. It wouldn't make sense to stand up a whole new system for an issue that isn't widespread and one that'll be gone once crowds go down in a month or so.

You mean like the months of multiple hour waits to reach DVC via phone for basic service needs that could be done over email, chat, enhanced online functionality, bringing back more staff, or a simple call back function...

Yeah, I can see why youd have the impression that Disney would react to this pool situation if it were a bigger problem.

 

[Eric Smith]

You mean like the months of multiple hour waits to reach DVC via phone for basic service needs that could be done over email, chat, enhanced online functionality, bringing back more staff, or a simple call back function...

Yeah, I can see why youd have the impression that Disney would react to this pool situation if it were a bigger problem.

If it were a huge problem, the Disney news sites would be talking about it. Have a magical day.

 

[TXAKDisneyFan]

Yay Disneyland!

what’s going on with universal Hollywood?

Maybe I’m an uneducated Floridian- but here in the south, UOR and WDW go head to head with most announcements. Is it the same on the west coast?

This is the latest email I got from USH:

I'm semi wondering what they'll do about our passes when they reopen, esp if they only allow Californians in like DLR. We aren't CA residents. Keep them paused I guess.

 

[gottalovepluto]

This is the latest email I got from USH:

I'm semi wondering what they'll do about our passes when they reopen, esp if they only allow Californians in like DLR. We aren't CA residents. Keep them paused I guess.

Wouldn’t plan on being able to use your pass if they make it valid. Hope they make it right to all the out of state folks. Like DLR, UOR will be under state restrictions and if caught violating them (allowing non-Californians in) could be subject to a plethora of state punishments. (CalOSHA violations and loss of liquor license are just a couple things the state has in its arsenal to punish companies that don’t comply with COVID guidelines.)

 

[TXAKDisneyFan]

Wouldn’t plan on being able to use your pass if they make it valid. Hope they make it right to all the out of state folks. Like DLR, UOR will be under state restrictions and if caught violating them (allowing non-Californians in) could be subject to a plethora of state punishments. (CalOSHA violations and loss of liquor license are just a couple things the state has in its arsenal to punish companies that don’t comply with COVID guidelines.)

No, I don't expect to be able to use them. Honestly, I tend to forget we even have them unless they email me. We're much more FL ppl than CA, and I wouldn't choose to go to CA until DLR is open to out of state guests anyway.

I guess the other issue is idk the number of passholders USH has. Could they keep all passes paused to not be overwhelmed with unhappy passholders once they reopen? (Assuming they also reopen with what, 15%? capacity like DLR.)

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

yes they know how but when you can put only 25% of what you normally do in a room you need more rooms. same thing that has hurt ressies is hurting CMs breaks. think of it this way the tables that usually allow 4 to sit at and take their break can only seat one now. takes more planning and room has to come from some where

If my kids can sit like this at school, CMs could sit like this in a break room. As many of us on this thread are saying, Disney should get creative and stop using Covid as an excuse for everything.

 

[Krandor]

I agree. And (this comment is getting off-topic, sorry) I think the research on transmission can't come fast enough, because if transmission of the virus is proven to be decreased (which preliminary research says it does), then IMO, letting vaccinated people "off the hook" for Covid restrictions will go a LONG way toward discouraging vaccine hesitancy.

Unless you are going to ask them for proof saying people who have gotten the vaccine don't have to abide by restrictions will only make those that are vaccine hesitant just start saying "I've been vaccinated. I don't have to follow your rules" - the same group that tried to create those "mask exemption cards".

I'm in georgia and not yet in a group that can get the vaccine and I don't really want vaccinated people even if I know they are to not have to follow all the rules. Case in point, as someboody not vaccinated I don't want somebody even if I know they are vaccinated standing right behind me in line with no mask at the grocery store. That would still not be comffortable to me.

At some point even if vaccinated you have to have some respect for people that haven't been at least until we get to the point where anybody can walk in and get a shot with no waiting and we are not there yet and at least a few months out.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

If my kids can sit like this at school, CMs could sit like this in a break room. As many of us on this thread are saying, Disney should get creative and stop using Covid as an excuse for everything.

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I don’t think the break room issue is really preventing them from adding more CMs back and opening more things up. What source is that information even coming from? Why are you telling Disney to get creative on break rooms when we don’t even know if it’s an issue? Granted, this was 15+ years ago but there was a very large cafeteria style break area at the resort I worked at during my college program and we were not packed in like sardines at all. In fact, people could spread out and keep to themselves. I suppose it probably depends on the location, though.

As long as we’re speculating, I don’t think this has anything to do with break rooms. I personally don’t think certain things will come back until the college program (aka the super cheap labor) comes back - which could be sooner than I previously thought based on comments Chapek has made recently. CP group housing is the biggest safety issue, but also one area where I could see them require vaccination. Once there’s easy access to the vax for the CP, I think they’ll try to get things moving on that.

 

[samsonjs]

There actually are conventions happening these days at CSR according to the Buzz facebook group. Looks like just one this month, in addition to the basketball. This is the one happening during our May trip:

May 25 - 28, 2021 Actuarial Colloquia

I'm not thinking the actuaries will be too rowdy in the pool area...

Lol that’s good! I saw cheer was going but I consider them vacationers more than convention goers bc they use the amenities like tourists.

the acutuaries being at Disney is super funny to me. We have a few friends that are actuaries and they would hate to be at Disney! They are the most practical prudent people we know. I always try to talk them into disney but it’s a no from them.

edit: looks like this was postponed to 2022 though. I was going to send it to my friend. Ha!

 

[Makmak]

I don't have to be a lonely hunter anymore. Today I can hunt for tax exemptions; I'm gonna be an actuary! JAGUAR

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

I don’t think the break room issue is really preventing them from adding more CMs back and opening more things up. What source is that information even coming from? Why are you telling Disney to get creative on break rooms when we don’t even know if it’s an issue? Granted, this was 15+ years ago but there was a very large cafeteria style break area at the resort I worked at during my college program and we were not packed in like sardines at all. In fact, people could spread out and keep to themselves. I suppose it probably depends on the location, though.

As long as we’re speculating, I don’t think this has anything to do with break rooms. I personally don’t think certain things will come back until the college program (aka the super cheap labor) comes back - which could be sooner than I previously thought based on comments Chapek has made recently. CP group housing is the biggest safety issue, but also one area where I could see them require vaccination. Once there’s easy access to the vax for the CP, I think they’ll try to get things moving on that.

I don't think it has anything to do with break rooms either, but there are multiple people on this thread arguing that break rooms are some big factor in not opening up more at the resorts and parks.

 

[SierraT]

I don't think it has anything to do with break rooms either, but there are multiple people on this thread arguing that break rooms are some big factor in not opening up more at the resorts and parks.

Yeahhhhh, I just think they don’t want the overheard. The parks are functioning essentially bare bones and people are still flooding the place. I imagine they will start bringing back employees and opening up more once they’ve hit their internal
”safety” milestones. Not everyone is selecting to get the vaccine so they likely have a “magical” number to hit before loosening restrictions.

I’m really curious to see what they are going to do with the cruises because I miss them. Never sailed Carnival but someone on the cruise board posted an article linking CEO comments about various mandates (vaccines weren’t one of them with the exception of the older demographic cruises). Whatever they decide, people are going to be mad I’m sure.

 

[Obi-J Kenobi]

There actually are conventions happening these days at CSR according to the Buzz facebook group. Looks like just one this month, in addition to the basketball. This is the one happening during our May trip:

May 25 - 28, 2021 Actuarial Colloquia

I'm not thinking the actuaries will be too rowdy in the pool area...

Even actuaries have imaginations...

 

[zacharyleo34]

JMO The solution is to reduce the impact on guests by opening closed resort pools for overflow, with transportation, or complimentary water parks access The alternative is to compensate guests. Maybe every guest. Maybe limit it to those guests who show up at a pool and are turned away.

Sorry for the late response - so this I can understand, but again I don't think it necessarily trims down the complaining. If I'm at a resort that's not close to another... Am I really expected to drive/uber/whatever 10+ minutes to the next closest resort? All of these solutions are definitely, at least for me, a "close but not quite". This makes sense due to the situation at hand, but still stinks!

 

[Moliphino]

I don't think it has anything to do with break rooms either, but there are multiple people on this thread arguing that break rooms are some big factor in not opening up more at the resorts and parks.

It's not completely out of the blue, but I don't know how much it factors in. We know they're using CHH as a CM break area now, which is why that's not open.

 

[mrsap]

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[Douglas Dubh]

I don’t think the break room issue is really preventing them from adding more CMs back and opening more things up.

Have you spoken to any cast members about it? Because I have.