Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[osufeth24]

Clearly based on their studies AP holders aren't spending "spring roll" level money on a daily basis

If only they studied my spending habits. They'd probably start welcoming in APs for free lol

 

[jlwhitney]

Maybe they need to try to increase crowds somehow. Just spit-balling here, but maybe they could start selling AP's again?

Not selling APs isn’t the real
Issue for low crowds. Many people with aps aren’t even renewing as is.

between no international travel and for most people right now Disney is too expensive for the restrictions and less entertainment, no true meet and greets and such. It’s gonna be low
For a bit. Spring break will be interesting since some schools
Are having shorter to no breaks to make up for the delayed start in the fall.

another factor Is right now a lot also don’t want to use vacation days yet when maybe summer and later will be better (whether to go to Disney or somewhere else)

 

[BorderTenny]

Not selling APs isn’t the real
Issue for low crowds. Many people with aps aren’t even renewing as is.

between no international travel and for most people right now Disney is too expensive for the restrictions and less entertainment, no true meet and greets and such. It’s gonna be low
For a bit. Spring break will be interesting since some schools
Are having shorter to no breaks to make up for the delayed start in the fall.

another factor Is right now a lot also don’t want to use vacation days yet when maybe summer and later will be better (whether to go to Disney or somewhere else)

Um, that all doesn't explain why they can't start selling AP's at least to FL residents like myself. I became a FL homeowner in summer 2019, but wasn't ready financially to start getting park AP's before COVID hit. I've now been able to get AP's to Universal and SW/BG, but I'm getting tired of them. One of my days off is during the week and DH is retired, so we'd be happy with just the Weekday Select. We live far enough away that we would usually have at least one meal per day trip on property. We'd even consider staying the occasional single night at one of the hotels if they weren't so overpriced even with discounts. I'm sure there's not an insignificant number of other new and old FL residents who for whatever reason didn't have AP's in the before times, but want them now and would be happy to help make the parks less empty, even on weekdays.

 

[yulilin3]

If only they studied my spending habits. They'd probably start welcoming in APs for free lol

Apparently they only see my spending habits, sorry everyone

 

[gottalovepluto]

Maybe they need to try to increase crowds somehow. Just spit-balling here, but maybe they could start selling AP's again?

I now don’t get Disney’s halfway AP program. Demand has obviously eased looking at the calendar. Having to close things they’ve opened and cut back on hours is not what they wanted... at least open up sales of the highest tiers. At $1k/person that would be a quick little revenue boost and with capacity for it why not?

ETA: We have passed the point of desperate people will buy full price tickets to come instead of APs. C’mon Disney. Look around

 

[Chris Ehlers]

https://www.adventuresbydisney.com/expedition-cruising-with-disney/
New Adventure By Disney Cruises for 2022

 

[rpb718]

another factor Is right now a lot also don’t want to use vacation days yet when maybe summer and later will be better (whether to go to Disney or somewhere else)

I'm really thinking this is a very large factor at the moment. Say you have only a limited number of vacation days in a year, would you really want to go to WDW now or wait 3 or 6 or 9+ months to go?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I'm really thinking this is a very large factor at the moment. Say you have only a limited number of vacation days in a year, would you really want to go to WDW now or wait 3 or 6 or 9+ months to go?

Though on the flip side I know a number of companies that were letting people carry over days due to not really needing to/able to use them last year

For example at my company we normally can carry over 5 days and have to use those days up in the first quarter, but for last year we were able to carry forward up to 10 days into 2021 and have the whole year to use them. So I have 33 vacation days this year and no idea when I will use any of them

 

[bookbabe626]

Though on the flip side I know a number of companies that were letting people carry over days due to not really needing to/able to use them last year

For example at my company we normally can carry over 5 days and have to use those days up in the first quarter, but for last year we were able to carry forward up to 10 days into 2021 and have the whole year to use them. So I have 33 vacation days this year and no idea when I will use any of them

Yup...DH has 45 days for 2021 due to carry-over. And we’re locked up with the borders closed for the foreseeable future. No idea how he’s going to use up all that time if we can’t travel even locally. He’s already working from home, so a staycation holds no appeal.

 

[Sarahslay]

https://attractionsmagazine.com/nig...n-kilimanjaro-safaris-disneys-animal-kingdom/
Ridiculously excited for this, will they be there next week?

They've been there since before Christmas, they are precious!

 

[Sarahslay]

https://www.adventuresbydisney.com/expedition-cruising-with-disney/
New Adventure By Disney Cruises for 2022

This is right up my alley, I need to do this!

 

[jlwhitney]

I'm really thinking this is a very large factor at the moment. Say you have only a limited number of vacation days in a year, would you really want to go to WDW now or wait 3 or 6 or 9+ months to go?

Yup! Mid oct-dec people had vacation days that were use or lose, some companies allowed some rollover but others didn't or not all the days. So people went especially those that had already booked and paid for it.

 

[Sarahslay]

Um, that all doesn't explain why they can't start selling AP's at least to FL residents like myself. I became a FL homeowner in summer 2019, but wasn't ready financially to start getting park AP's before COVID hit. I've now been able to get AP's to Universal and SW/BG, but I'm getting tired of them. One of my days off is during the week and DH is retired, so we'd be happy with just the Weekday Select. We live far enough away that we would usually have at least one meal per day trip on property. We'd even consider staying the occasional single night at one of the hotels if they weren't so overpriced even with discounts. I'm sure there's not an insignificant number of other new and old FL residents who for whatever reason didn't have AP's in the before times, but want them now and would be happy to help make the parks less empty, even on weekdays.

I'm even an out of state AP and would welcome being able to buy APs for the rest of my family. We have trips planned through June (one trip with each kid individualy for their birthday, and then a big family trip this summer), but if they don't start selling APs again the summer trip will be our last for a while. I can't keep buying day tickets for all of them, it really adds up (which I'm sure is what they want). Unfortunately for them it means a loss in some major hotel, dining, and merch revenue since I'm not willing to keep dishing out all the ticket cash. My AP expires right after our summer trip, and then I'll let it go, if they started selling again I more than likely wouldn't.

 

[Brianstl]

Um, that all doesn't explain why they can't start selling AP's at least to FL residents like myself. I became a FL homeowner in summer 2019, but wasn't ready financially to start getting park AP's before COVID hit. I've now been able to get AP's to Universal and SW/BG, but I'm getting tired of them. One of my days off is during the week and DH is retired, so we'd be happy with just the Weekday Select. We live far enough away that we would usually have at least one meal per day trip on property. We'd even consider staying the occasional single night at one of the hotels if they weren't so overpriced even with discounts. I'm sure there's not an insignificant number of other new and old FL residents who for whatever reason didn't have AP's in the before times, but want them now and would be happy to help make the parks less empty, even on weekdays.

The fact that they won't sell AP's to the general public at this point is a clear signal that major changes are coming to the AP program at WDW, in my opinion.

 

[figmentfinesse]

We had an amazing day yesterday at MK with waits that rivaled our last trip in August! Just a heads up for everyone, the published show times for the EWP are wrong. We and many others showed up on the Poly Beach last night and waited 30 minutes for it, before someone asked and found out the loop starts at 7:45 not 8:45.

 

[woody337]

The fact that they won't sell AP's to the general public at this point is a clear signal that major changes are coming to the AP program at WDW, in my opinion.

I dont see them getting rid of the AP's in WDW. Judging by the daily reservation system they arent hitting capacity on any ticket level. I cant see them removing regulars that are a promised return customer

 

[Eric Smith]

The fact that they won't sell AP's to the general public at this point is a clear signal that major changes are coming to the AP program at WDW, in my opinion.

I don't think that's the case. I think they're not selling APs because they don't have the capacity blocked out to support them. They also probably don't want to get in a situation where they start selling them and then during the summer APs have a lot of trouble getting park reservations.

 

[osufeth24]

The fact that they won't sell AP's to the general public at this point is a clear signal that major changes are coming to the AP program at WDW, in my opinion.

disagree..

They most likely don't want to try to sell a bunch now, then have over crowding come spring time and summer when crowds pick up again and they're still at the same capacity limits. They'll be right back to where they were in the fall when APs were complaining about reservations filling up.

 

[rpb718]

Though on the flip side I know a number of companies that were letting people carry over days due to not really needing to/able to use them last year

For example at my company we normally can carry over 5 days and have to use those days up in the first quarter, but for last year we were able to carry forward up to 10 days into 2021 and have the whole year to use them. So I have 33 vacation days this year and no idea when I will use any of them

Not quite sure if this is flip side or if you're making my argument for me . Now if you were forced to use the 5 or 10 days in the 1st quarter I could see it.

For many folks having more vacation days just means being able to have a longer vacations, and their kids are out for longer in the summer. Those without kids can go anytime they want, and sure some with kids will go now or soon. But the COVID numbers at the moment still aren't great, the vaccine rollout still isn't efficient and many will wait until after at least the grandparents and maybe even the parents have had their shots.

 

[Jrb1979]

disagree..

They most likely don't want to try to sell a bunch now, then have over crowding come spring time and summer when crowds pick up again and they're still at the same capacity limits. They'll be right back to where they were in the fall when APs were complaining about reservations filling up.

Your reasoning I partially agree with. I do see them changing it to a membership when they do bring them back.