Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[merry_nbright]

Following along.

 

[jlwhitney]

I just can’t see the parks being even appealing to go to until after the phase when face masks are mandatory. Maybe if I lived in Orlando, I’d be ok with that just to go and support the parks. But I’d be hard pressed to spend the money for a dream vacation just to sweat behind an uncomfortable mask the whole time. No matter how cute Disney might try to merchandise them, I can’t imagine many people want a family photo in front of the castle where you can’t see anyone’s face.

have they 100% confirmed masks will be required? Or still speculation?

 

[whiporee]

Phase 2 is business open to LOCALS

Article Four of the Constitution guarantees the citizens of one state the privileges of any state they travel to, The Constitution does not directly guarantee the right to travel between states, but it does say that if you are visiting another state, you can expect to be treated like any other citizen of that state. This gets tricky sometimes, but it is an actual part of the Constitution. The Supreme Court has allowed that states can have residency requirements, and in some cases they have allowed that benefits can be awarded state residents, but allowing access to something to residents opens serious constitutional questions.

If Florida -- or Disney -- wants to restrict access to only Florida residents, they might be opening up for bigger questions as to citizens of a state versus citizens of the country. Could be a very interesting debate.

 

[Krandor]

Agreed. When I listened to it, I took it as Disney has already been working on their own procedures well ahead of Florida and federal guidelines. 'They got this'

That almost seems like common sense. From the moment they annouonced they were closing they likely had teams working on how and what kind of changes coud/would need to be made to re-open. And disney is a large company. They could have a few people just focused on procedures/policies\queue\FP changes for one ride. I'd be shocked if that hasn't been going on for a while and disney is just going to have more resources to do that then most companies so if there were not ahead of others I'd be shocked.

 

[rteetz]

If its locals only, will they be spending much on merch/dining I wonder?

Isnt that where wdw makes the majority of its money?

Dining will likely be limited to begin with.

 

[westie55]

So Florida businesses will only be open to locals for several months or however long it takes to get to phase 3? In all seriousness, because I don't know the answer, is that possible? I thought people have the constitutional right to travel between the states, so how would it work for businesses to deny customers who reside elsewhere? I don't picture the parks opening if only Florida residents are permitted entry.

 

[yankeesfan123]

It's pretty clear what was meant if one just reads the article:

“It’s amazing the ideas that the businesses are already thinking about. They’ve been thinking deeply about this for weeks and weeks… there’s a lot of great ideas that I’ve already seen put on the table. I’m in discussions with places like Disney. They are so far ahead of the curve, and I think everyone wants to make sure we do it safely.“

I honestly think he meant as far as understanding this virus from a business standpoint. Foreign Disney parks were closed long before the US parks closed, making Disney “ahead of the curve” regarding the effect on businesses.

 

[anthony2k7]

So Florida businesses will only be open to locals for several months or however long it takes to get to phase 3? In all seriousness, because I don't know the answer, is that possible? I thought people have the constitutional right to travel between the states, so how would it work for businesses to deny customers who reside elsewhere? I don't picture the parks opening if only Florida residents are permitted entry.

Has it been defined as to what "local" mean for this?

 

[karen4546]

Has it been defined as to what "local" mean for this?

what about DVC members?

 

[JenM]

I just can’t see the parks being even appealing to go to until after the phase when face masks are mandatory. Maybe if I lived in Orlando, I’d be ok with that just to go and support the parks. But I’d be hard pressed to spend the money for a dream vacation just to sweat behind an uncomfortable mask the whole time. No matter how cute Disney might try to merchandise them, I can’t imagine many people want a family photo in front of the castle where you can’t see anyone’s face.

That‘s us right now. We had my nephews’ first-ever trip, that we’d been trying to get off the ground for years, planned for July. It‘s still booked, but as much as we still want to take the trip at some point this year, we don’t want to have spent all of this money to visit a park that’s only at part-capacity with all of these restrictions in place. We‘d rather wait until next year, when it’s hopefully better.

 

[WeatherLights]

So Florida businesses will only be open to locals for several months or however long it takes to get to phase 3? In all seriousness, because I don't know the answer, is that possible? I thought people have the constitutional right to travel between the states, so how would it work for businesses to deny customers who reside elsewhere? I don't picture the parks opening if only Florida residents are permitted entry.

All rights granted in the Constitution can be limited for "compelling" government reasons, including the total suspension of habeas corpus, which is scary, but there is precedent for it. For example, speedy trial rights are currently suspended in many courts across the country because juries cannot be impaneled and, so far, those measures have not been overturned. To tie this in to the original thread topic, I expect the travel restrictions and confining Disney entry to Florida residents would be permissible if the State can make a strong showing that it's necessary for public health.

 

[LSUmiss]

Surprised they haven't added Massachusetts yet. We've got a much bigger surge happening than LA.

Yes that’s why I find the whole thing so ridiculous.

 

[anthony2k7]

Completely off topic but still hopefully relevant enough to not get deleted...

Massive UK retailer Primark is asking our government for at least 2 to 4 weeks notice before shops are allowed go reopen to allow them to "make stores safe".

The idea that disney can just open up straight after they're allowed seems impossible to me.

 

[Spridell]

Part 2 of Florida conference call just ended.

Only thing new that pertains to Disney, it seems the State wants to limit capacity at first in hotels to 25%-30%. If after a 2 week or so period things are going smoothly they will raise capacity limits.

 

[Spridell]

If Florida -- or Disney -- wants to restrict access to only Florida residents, they might be opening up for bigger questions as to citizens of a state versus citizens of the country. Could be a very interesting debate.

My take on the conference call this morning was for phase 2 they were going to be "marketing" FOR LOCALS. Wanting the locals to visit different parts of the state for "staycations"

That was my take at least. I dont see a way FL would be able to enforce ONLY locals going into shops, restaurants, etc...

Disney I guess COULD find a way but......

 

[LSUmiss]

I think they will likely aim for the 3 month end of that (or maybe even go shorter than that). I don’t see how the economy in central Florida can survive without out of state visitors.

Yeah b/c I would think many have APs already if they go often &, if not, how many are going to start going now.

 

[Sandiz08]

I think when they said "local" they are talking about the idea that they do not expect Florida tourism overall to be at the point that it was, so they will be catering towards the local crowds at the beginning. The "local" crowds are who they have to make feel safe patronizing these sectors of the economy. The phone call was not just about Disney but different businesses that make up Florida tourism. No plans are concrete, they were just throwing around ideas and sharing their experiences thus far.

 

[whodatdare]

I love reading this thread. It's got everything...
* Plenty of news/rumors
* People who are so far on the OPEN SOON side of things
*People who are on the "We can't open until 2030 and a vaccine is here" side of things
* People in the middle just watching this like a ping pong match.
Now, on the other side, I've talked to some people that work high up in HersheyPark (Brown tags), and they fully expect to be up and running in mid early to mid June with the Governor here being the only possible stumbling block. (I used to work there). Now, their version of training isn't anything like DW, but when I worked there I got two days of training and was considered ready to work. LOL.

 

[mattpeto]

I honestly think he meant as far as understanding this virus from a business standpoint. Foreign Disney parks were closed long before the US parks closed, making Disney “ahead of the curve” regarding the effect on businesses.

This could be valid too. That's why I thought it was a tad murky and wasn't clear cut at all.

 

[Jrb1979]

My take on the conference call this morning was for phase 2 they were going to be "marketing" FOR LOCALS. Wanting the locals to visit different parts of the state for "staycations"

That was my take at least. I dont see a way FL would be able to enforce ONLY locals going into shops, restaurants, etc...

Disney I guess COULD find a way but......

That's what I took from it too. Its not that they saying locals only. They probably figure out of state traveling is not happening anytime soon.

Something I want I don't understand is more people are focused on when Disney is opening rather then what Disney is going to look like.