Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[hereforthechurros]

From a poster at wdwmagic:
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I’m confused... they did the procedure before she got the results? Then what’s the point of the test?

I have no doubt this is happening daily at WDW daily. People feeling off and going anyway. People who know they have it but feel fine and go anyway. The selfish nature of people never ceases to amaze me.

 

[WorldOfPooh]

And you also have to realize, reduced park hours are more for cost reduction than for a safety aspect. By closing earlier and opening later Disney doesn’t have to pay CMs as long.

Your plan would require the hiring of more bus drivers (who require specialized training) in order to provide all that busing. There are a lot of resort guests that utilize their cars to get to and from parks, this would require them all to use the buses. Bus stops would be completely overcrowded (even more so now with social distancing). They probably wouldn’t even have enough buses to handle the demand.

It's a small price to pay to have park hopping, longer hours and fill the resorts.
Better than anything they are doing now.

 

[skeeter31]

It's a small price to pay to have park hopping, longer hours and fill the resorts.
Better than anything they are doing now.

It wouldn’t fill the resorts. It’s a nice hope, but it wouldn’t work and isn’t going to happen.

 

[JacknSally]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1289731252296151040

 

[AmberMV]

I’m confused... they did the procedure before she got the results? Then what’s the point of the test?

I have no doubt this is happening daily at WDW daily. People feeling off and going anyway. People who know they have it but feel fine and go anyway. The selfish nature of people never ceases to amaze me.

Yeah I don't know if it's like how when you donate blood they give you a free antibody test. Or if you go to a hospital in Florida for anything they test you, but maybe because this person was asymptomatic they just assumed they didn't have it and had no reason to isolate-but once here in Florida and already at the resort and parks she does what many people have done for years-"I'm not going to let xx ruin my vacation I'm doing it anyway!". People have been going to the parks while sick for years, this isn't going to change. And I guarantee this person isn't the only one who has knowingly (or even not) gone to a theme park while positive for Covid-19. Wrong? Absolutely. But it's not a one-off instance unfortunately.

 

[JenBush]

From a poster at wdwmagic:
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I have a Facebook friend who did a similar thing. Her son was feeling off and got tested a few days before their vacation. Results didn’t come back before their trip so they went anyway. Then while on vacation in Gatlinburg they got his results that he was positive, but continued their trip as normal. When they got home the rest of the family got tested and 3 of the 5 of them were positive. This Facebook friend posted all about this on Facebook as if it was no big deal... smh.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

From a poster at wdwmagic:
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Um, acting like that is not being a "grown a** woman" it's being a toddler

 

[Sarahslay]

One thing that a lot of people aren't realizing, is that a majority of those comments about increasing crowds occurred around the time when local passholders were able to return to the parks for the first time since March. I'm not confident that that rush is going to continue forever..

It won't, I'm pretty sure of it. People want to get to the parks so bad because they haven't been able to for months, once they go several times the itch will have died down a bit and they'll spread out their visits a bit more. Everyone won't want to cram every weekend with reservations to get back in the park, regular life will have to go on (what ever "regular" is now anyway). I have friends that live around there that were dying to go back, and now that they have all been to each park they aren't going back for another month or two.

 

[Sarahslay]

Yeah I don't know if it's like how when you donate blood they give you a free antibody test. Or if you go to a hospital in Florida for anything they test you, but maybe because this person was asymptomatic they just assumed they didn't have it and had no reason to isolate-but once here in Florida and already at the resort and parks she does what many people have done for years-"I'm not going to let xx ruin my vacation I'm doing it anyway!". People have been going to the parks while sick for years, this isn't going to change. And I guarantee this person isn't the only one who has knowingly (or even not) gone to a theme park while positive for Covid-19. Wrong? Absolutely. But it's not a one-off instance unfortunately.

You're absolutely right, people go to the parks sick all the time! On my last trip in late January/early February there were mobile doc and pharmacy vans everywhere. Every single resort the ME pulled up to (they crammed 5 resorts on one bus, I was the last resort -_- ) had at least one doc and one pharmacy van in front of it. I don't think I had ever seen that before in all my visits, one resort maybe, but not 5 in a row. Then there were kids coughing all over the place, wiping their noses and then touching everything. Parents yelling at their kids to stop acting sick because they were on vacation "you're not gonna ruin this for us! this cost a lot of money!". Not to mention the family on my plane that got kicked off because the kid was soooooo sick and they were trying to cover it up, telling him to perk up and not act sick or he wouldn't get to go to Disney. It was horrific. I knew people did it before, but that fact was in my face everywhere I turned on that trip. Of course this is why we all need to wear face masks and keep sanitized/washed up, because people are selfish and that is never going to change.

 

[New Mouse]

You're absolutely right, people go to the parks sick all the time! On my last trip in late January/early February there were mobile doc and pharmacy vans everywhere. Every single resort the ME pulled up to (they crammed 5 resorts on one bus, I was the last resort -_- ) had at least one doc and one pharmacy van in front of it. I don't think I had ever seen that before in all my visits, one resort maybe, but not 5 in a row. Then there were kids coughing all over the place, wiping their noses and then touching everything. Parents yelling at their kids to stop acting sick because they were on vacation "you're not gonna ruin this for us! this cost a lot of money!". Not to mention the family on my plane that got kicked off because the kid was soooooo sick and they were trying to cover it up, telling him to perk up and not act sick or he wouldn't get to go to Disney. It was horrific. I knew people did it before, but that fact was in my face everywhere I turned on that trip. Of course this is why we all need to wear face masks and keep sanitized/washed up, because people are selfish and that is never going to change.

This is also in part to Disney having exorbitant prices and inflexible exchange policies. If corporate America would be more lenient (both vacation time and ability to reschedule vacations that have been paid for), people would be more inclined to postpone.

 

[Grumpy by Birth]

Earnings call this week...hang on to your hats and glasses...

... 'Cause this here's the wildest ride in the wilderness!!!!

 

[Sarahslay]

This is also in part to Disney having exorbitant prices and inflexible exchange policies. If corporate America would be more lenient (both vacation time and ability to reschedule vacations that have been paid for), people would be more inclined to postpone.

Yep, the "we paid a lot of money for this trip that we can't get back, so you're gonna suck it up and have a good time!" is strong with WDW vacations.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

This is also in part to Disney having exorbitant prices and inflexible exchange policies. If corporate America would be more lenient (both vacation time and ability to reschedule vacations that have been paid for), people would be more inclined to postpone.

I get that, and wanting to push through things - I am sure we have done that a bit ourselves in the past

But feels different if it is "you have a positive Civid-19 test and are still going to the parks"

 

[MrsBooch]

Yeah absolutely people are going to be sick and still go. I also have no doubt that asymptomatic people are coming into work at the grocery store and Target and potentially checking out my groceries. They may not have any idea that they have it, but they probably do.

I can't, personally, get into the head space of knowing that people are purposefully negligent or inadvertently harming me by their entitled or unknown decisions - I just have to use the arsenal afforded to me: masks, proper hand washing, cognizance of face touching, social distancing and when unable to wash hands - hand sanitizer.
This is just me and my anxiety but if I start to get tripped up by the multitude of Karen's who are going to get their money's worth, or people who need a paycheck and will come to work no matter what, I'm literally never going to leave my house. Right or wrong - I don't know anymore. I think that Disney (and places like Disney) has provided a good safety structure and that if you follow it - even if people go when they shouldnt - it should be ok for you.
And hopefully everyone at Disney, including the CM's, are able to use what they have at their disposal and protect themselves against those irresponsible careless dolts.

 

[DonMa]

Yeah I don't know if it's like how when you donate blood they give you a free antibody test. Or if you go to a hospital in Florida for anything they test you, but maybe because this person was asymptomatic they just assumed they didn't have it and had no reason to isolate-but once here in Florida and already at the resort and parks she does what many people have done for years-"I'm not going to let xx ruin my vacation I'm doing it anyway!". People have been going to the parks while sick for years, this isn't going to change. And I guarantee this person isn't the only one who has knowingly (or even not) gone to a theme park while positive for Covid-19. Wrong? Absolutely. But it's not a one-off instance unfortunately.

So now I have a question. Not just for you more for the board...
If we accept that this (or cases like this) is potentially happening on a fairly regular basis does that did anything to change people’s minds about if the parks should be open? By all accounts they are doing great controlling what they can but does people’s inability to do the right thing mean they should just shut it down? Because if this causes an outbreak (and it can) it will be thrown back at them even though it is really not their fault...

 

[Mit88]

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Not saying they’re a liar, but also not saying I 100% believe this.

What easier way to get attention than make up a story like this to get people riled up? Seems to have worked

 

[indylaw99]

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Safe to say the weekends probably aren’t the best time to go to the parks if you’re trying to avoid “long” lines and crowds

I was at MK today and can confirm it was MUCH busier than earlier this week when we went. Because the heat was soooooo bad yesterday, we decided to do MK really early and really late today and stay in the room during the middle part. Observations:

• Between pre-park opening (about 8:45) and 11am we rode ALL THREE mountains, Peter Pan, Haunted Mansion, Little Mermaid, and Carousel of Progress (plus took a snack break).
• Around noon the lines started getting long and were getting a little better when we got back at 5. It's so random though!!! We did Carpets twice in a row and walked on Jungle Cruise. But then Pirates was 20 minutes.
• People are buying up all of the adorable "Together Again" shirts and selling them on eBay for about 3 times the cost to APs. It makes me sad because we have been looking for them every single day in every park but they keep telling us they sell out immediately. But there are so many on eBay.....
• Mask compliance was not good today. I was starting to feel uncomfortable at multiple times in the day and my family and I talked about it tonight and everyone agreed there were LOTS of chin guards plus a bunch of people doing the "eating and walking thing" and not a single CM was mentioning it.
• Tiki Room was the worst!!! The family beside me completely took theirs off for no reason. Two other families WALKED IN not wearing theirs and eating ice cream. I won't go in there again.

And sadly, I had my first freak out. But I'm proud of myself for making it to Day 7. We were seated at Liberty Tree right next to another table. My daughter's chair was almost back to back with the guy at the table behind us. I was quietly flipping out and finally my husband asked to have us moved. The did move us. Thankfully it was close to closing time. I was just really surprised because Disney made such a big deal about social distancing at the restaurants and we had not had ANY problems at all this week. But Liberty Tree was definitely not great spacing.

Leaving MK was VERY STRANGE! The park closed at 7 but by 8pm there were still more people in the hub and on Main Street than I have seen the whole trip. People were barely leaving. Lots of people taking picture and just hanging out. I guess I am used to them herding us out after fireworks. We got a couple of Photopass pictures right before 8 and then hurried to the bus before any kind of big rush.

Tomorrow is our last full day. It will be interesting to see what DS is like between COVID and the hurricane.

 

[DonMa]

Yeah absolutely people are going to be sick and still go. I also have no doubt that asymptomatic people are coming into work at the grocery store and Target and potentially checking out my groceries. They may not have any idea that they have it, but they probably do.

I can't, personally, get into the head space of knowing that people are purposefully negligent or inadvertently harming me by their entitled or unknown decisions - I just have to use the arsenal afforded to me: masks, proper hand washing, cognizance of face touching, social distancing and when unable to wash hands - hand sanitizer.
This is just me and my anxiety but if I start to get tripped up by the multitude of Karen's who are going to get their money's worth, or people who need a paycheck and will come to work no matter what, I'm literally never going to leave my house. Right or wrong - I don't know anymore. I think that Disney (and places like Disney) has provided a good safety structure and that if you follow it - even if people go when they shouldnt - it should be ok for you.
And hopefully everyone at Disney, including the CM's, are able to use what they have at their disposal and protect themselves against those irresponsible careless dolts.

You make very good points but if I could ask you, respectfully...
The other examples you gave are ostensibly activities more relevant to your everyday life and less of an expenditure and effort than traveling to WDW. Given that being confronted with this type of behavior would not at all make you rethink a trip to WDW?

 

[Mit88]

NBA Experience is closed right now so zero reason to try to dangle that via TV ads during NBA games right now and, sorry, no one is flying to WDW to watch playoffs at ESPN on the Boardwalk. These are things people do if they live locally or happen to be at WDW at the time. Have you ever seen Disney parks ads during ANY NBA game? I haven’t. I see beer commercials, pizza, Apple Watch, Nike, computers, cars, tires. NBA fans are not disney parks’ demographic.

Lol what? You just took my response to you and completely changed the context. What does NBA experience not being open right now have to do with it being there in general? You dont build an NBA inspired “attraction” if theres 0 crossover appeal. ESPN airs baseball and football too, they dont have special attractions on Disney property. Your boardwalk comment also doesn’t relate to what I said. In normal circumstances, ie every year prior to 2020, there have been long waits to get into ESPNZone to watch basketball games. Obviously that isnt happening now...nor are people flying to Disney to watch them...but no one flys to Disney just to go to Polite Pig, does that mean no one goes there?

And yes, I’ve seen many Disney parks commercials during NBA games, especially around Christmas season.

 

[AmberMV]

So now I have a question. Not just for you more for the board...
If we accept that this (or cases like this) is potentially happening on a fairly regular basis does that did anything to change people’s minds about if the parks should be open? By all accounts they are doing great controlling what they can but does people’s inability to do the right thing mean they should just shut it down? Because if this causes an outbreak (and it can) it will be thrown back at them even though it is really not their fault...

Before Disney even opened, the talk was all centered around how they were coming up with a system that basically assumed everyone is positive and all the steps needed in order to operate under those conditions. Obviously not everyone is positive, but when you plan for the worst and hope for the best that's the way you want to go for sure.

Not saying they’re a liar, but also not saying I 100% believe this.

What easier way to get attention than make up a story like this to get people riled up? Seems to have worked

It could be made up, but they are a "well-known member" there, whatever that means. So it's not like a troll account I'd presume.